Flotillas... they don't look prepainted to me?

By DUR, in Star Wars: Armada

Is it just me, or are the images of the FFG item bubble packed CG?

If so, I think they actually look unpainted- the "wash" is just the 3D image having panel lines too sharp relative to how the actual production mold will produce the part. FFG has done the same thing with the fighter packs and the rebellion minis- they are obviously not real minis if you look at them closely.

Not that it particularly matters to me since I'm going to paint mine, but just curious as to where others are declaring these guys prepaints. Even the little "rag tag" panel greebs on the GR75 surface are just bumps with too much rendered shadow.

I want them to not be Pre-painted.

I will make money off that. Lots of Money.

But I still think they are - the Rag-Tag panels, as you put them, do seem picked out to me.

Look at them. Totally painted:

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And even if they weren't - they'd be really easy to paint.

Indeed, that the 'flat' panels on both ships are varying colors is a dead giveaway.

Absolutely these are pre-painted.

Indeed, that the 'flat' panels on both ships are varying colors is a dead giveaway.

Absolutely these are pre-painted.

compare w.r.t rebellion game pieces: oddly similar, no? (not the shape, the colors)

Indeed, that the 'flat' panels on both ships are varying colors is a dead giveaway.

Absolutely these are pre-painted.

compare w.r.t rebellion game pieces: oddly similar, no? (not the shape, the colors)

Dude, DUR, you are blind!

The Armada models in the package are clearly shaded, which these from Rebellion (below) are not.

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I dont see shades in those pictures, and they do look like the exact same colors that differenciate Imperial fighters from Rebel fighters.

But the miniature is clearly done with the "good" plastic. Its much more detailed than its Rebellion counterpart. So it is a proper miniature, not a plastic token like the fighters and R&V.

I dont see the paint, but it would be odd that they were made with the same amount of detail as the rest of the Ships and not be painted. So, I think they will be painted.

Edited by melminiatures

Are they really different from the Rebellion miniatures or are they the same piece with a paint job? Mel likely has a better eye than me for such things, but it looks awfully close.

Actually, the closer I look, I agree. They are not pre-painted.

They definitely look painted to me.

Rather than call them "pre-painted" they should be called "pre-shaded" looking at the individual stands in the news release.

So let's have a real discussion here:

  • The rebellion pieces show a differentiation in high vs. low panel color, which is the product of shading, as those pictures are renders.
  • If we look closely at the Wave 3 picture, the giveaway is the Rebel transports on the right. There you can see:
    • Off-white panels
    • Black shades
    • Small black spots that indicate some sort of camouflage, additional shading, etc. down the port side of the ships.

So what are the options?

  • These are super touched-up renders where someone used photoshop or something similar to add the details to the Rebel ships.
  • These are pre-paints, but a very basic pre-paint scheme (wash only, essentially, with a smattering of details on the rebel transports) in order to make it as efficient as possible to produce.

It could go either way, but I will go against Steve and say I think these could be pre-painted, but with a paint scheme that makes it as quick as humanly possible to pre-paint them to reduce production time. The give-away will be if we get a shot from the back and can see what is going on with the engines.

I can't really tell, but I don't think they are painted.

I'm fine either way. I don't paint and am not bothered either way. I play IA without painting any of those figures and it doesn't bother me at all with immersion.

Indeed, that the 'flat' panels on both ships are varying colors is a dead giveaway.

Absolutely these are pre-painted.

compare w.r.t rebellion game pieces: oddly similar, no? (not the shape, the colors)

Dude, DUR, you are blind!

The Armada models in the package are clearly shaded, which these from Rebellion (below) are not.

I'm actually thinking the product in package is having some artifacts due to the rendering engine trying to deal with light going through a transparent surface (the bubble package). But yes, you are correct, I've got pretty bad eyesight :)

Yeah, I guess it's not such a big deal or anything, but I was just curious to see if I'd missed some news somewhere or phrase that mentioned pre-painted. I know FFG likes to mention that in their product descriptions, but they don't explicitly say that on the flot product pages. I also noticed that the gozanti is way, way too dark relative to the typical cool grey FFG likes for imps, which is what first got me curious.

Read their product page descriptions. They do NOT say pre-painted while every other ship does. That's a big selling point, I doubt that was left off in error.

Happy to be wrong, don't mind at all if I'm right- they'll be dead easy to paint.

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Looking at that image makes it pretty clear those spots are just recesses in the plastic surface that appear overly shaded. MAYBE they'll get a wash out the door, but the fighters looked similarly over shaded:

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Did your falcon look like that?

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Looking at that image makes it pretty clear those spots are just recesses in the plastic surface that appear overly shaded. MAYBE they'll get a wash out the door, but the fighters looked similarly over shaded:

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Did your falcon look like that?

Also, if you look at the early release images of their X-wings, you can tell they intended to have the little cut out on the nose and the step down in laser cannon diameter. Instead, we got bent lasers and a metric crapload of flash :(

Maybe one day, after Armada becomes wildly successful, FFG will be able to have the volume to splurge on some higher temperature molds- they obviously are the limiting factor (and not the beautiful CAD models!). One day...

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My Assault Frigates didn't look like those colours either... Even before I repainted them

They were far more Green.

...

As it is, I have 0 Respect for the Prepainting, anyway :D

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Edited by Drasnighta

Yeah I'ma be honest the assault frigate mk 1 was a major let down painting wise for me...it did not look as advertised!

I mean, I hope they aren't Prepainted. I can set a price point for it to bring people's fleets up to Snuff :D

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I think this image perfectly confirms that they are NOT painted. Im sure they are not the same molds as the ones in Rebellion, but they might be of the same plastic as the Fighters and R&V.

Indeed, that the 'flat' panels on both ships are varying colors is a dead giveaway.

Absolutely these are pre-painted.

compare w.r.t rebellion game pieces: oddly similar, no? (not the shape, the colors)

Dude, DUR, you are blind!

The Armada models in the package are clearly shaded, which these from Rebellion (below) are not.

sw03_plastic.png

Hey!?! What in the...These TIEs have INTERIOR brace thingys (Technical Imperial term) Mine DO NOT. Darn.

Dude, DUR, you are blind!

The Armada models in the package are clearly shaded, which these from Rebellion (below) are not.

I'm actually thinking the product in package is having some artifacts due to the rendering engine trying to deal with light going through a transparent surface (the bubble package). But yes, you are correct, I've got pretty bad eyesight :)

Well, I'm pretty near-sighted too. And I was looking just at the images in the packages - and in those they really look painted (to me). Now that I see these out-of-package shots, I'm not as sure of myself. :unsure:

Yeah, I guess it's not such a big deal or anything, but I was just curious to see if I'd missed some news somewhere or phrase that mentioned pre-painted. I know FFG likes to mention that in their product descriptions, but they don't explicitly say that on the flot product pages. I also noticed that the gozanti is way, way too dark relative to the typical cool grey FFG likes for imps, which is what first got me curious.

Not that I yearn for the day when Warhammer Armies all needed to be painted (and - in my areas - never were), but I kind of relish painting the unpainted minis. My squadrons are almost all painted, and the ones I haven't painted are plain because I don't really like flying them (and I haven't had enough time or the specific paints). I also think that my squadron minis stand out, as I'm a fair hand with a brush.

Indeed, that the 'flat' panels on both ships are varying colors is a dead giveaway.

Absolutely these are pre-painted.

compare w.r.t rebellion game pieces: oddly similar, no? (not the shape, the colors)

Dude, DUR, you are blind!

The Armada models in the package are clearly shaded, which these from Rebellion (below) are not.

sw03_plastic.png

Hey!?! What in the...These TIEs have INTERIOR brace thingys (Technical Imperial term) Mine DO NOT. Darn.

If the Armada x-wings were anywhere near the quality of that render, I'd start crying. But, I'm guessing there's no way that will make it to Rebellion's production mold (notice that they actually have the intake grill! WAAAT?!). Even the snow speeder guns have holes. Whoever works in the CAD department must not talk to the production guys very often :P

We'll find out once they hit stores. I'd imagine that the underside of the transports might have different colors like the X-Wing version but, with so many months till they land, who can say? They look pre-painted to me from the few photos so far.