(Moving this out of the Scum GR-75 topic)

I have been toying with the idea of a Scum Gozanti, and just picked a second one up to start testing. I did a little modification to the docking clamps last night, and managed to dock 4x Scum Z-95 Headhunters to the Gozanti. Sadly, this is one of the few Scum ships that will fit, and they have to face alternate directions... but I think once I repaint the Gozanti, it should work.

Pics below:

And a close-up of the modification to the docking clamp:

I must admit, I have never re-painted a miniature before, so I am not sure how that part will work out... but the idea I was working with was rusting it out. Just weathering, browning it all over, to give it a derelict kind of look, then add a faction symbol... Look at Aweber's post with his GR-75. I like the Black Suns idea. I actually thought that a rusted look for the Gozanti, while leaving the White Z-95's would give a good contrast?

M3 Interceptors will work, and can actually all face the correct direction, but I only have 1x M3, and really have no interest in buying 3x more of them, until FFG "fixes" them.

I did some test fitting, and anything else gets really hard to fit in there for Scum. I wanted to mount a pair of Y-Wings, but they are so big, there is very little room for anything in front or behind them. I think Y-Wing in front and a M3 behind might fit, but that is tight. Khiraz has a similar problem, with 2x fitting, but anyhting ahead/behind having space issues. If the Gozanti's docking clamps were about 1/2" further apart, you could have all kinds of new fitting options.

One other note, if anyone is considering this. Modifying the docking clamps does have some dangers. I messed one of them up, and ended up cutting it all the way flat across, losing the "clamp" part near the front of the Z-95. Also, the "clamp" portion that holds around the ship does add structural support, so that turning the clamp doesn't put all the pressure on the clear plastic mount. I broke one of my Y-Wings, by putting it in the clamp, then trying to turn the clamp back onto the Gozanti... snapped the peg base in half. So if you try this, try to keep as much of the plastic as you can to "hug" the ship (like the Z-95 pic above), as it helps keep you from breaking your peg bases.

Just wondering out loud here - why wouldn't the Y wings fit if they all faced the same direction? The front of the Y should nest inside of the back of the engines.

Awesome work. I'm looking forward to seeing your repaint.

I think the painted GR75 mini in an earlier post would be my inspiration.

But if you were to manage to put big bold Black Sun icons on the wings

that would look really bold, and not necessarily the white of the Z-95s,

but if they blended into the hull because of the paint scheme it would be cool.

If you got the Z-95s to fit it can't be that far off for the M3-A Scyks facing each other.

Those yellow (scum) Mining Guild TIE fighters from Star Wars Rebels

might be something to hope for, and maybe a reason to add some yellow.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/mining-guild-tie-fighter

Also, the nose of the Gozanti made me think of this:

Thanks!

I must admit, I have never re-painted a miniature before, so I am not sure how that part will work out... but the idea I was working with was rusting it out. Just weathering, browning it all over, to give it a derelict kind of look, then add a faction symbol... Look at Aweber's post with his GR-75. I like the Black Suns idea. I actually thought that a rusted look for the Gozanti, while leaving the White Z-95's would give a good contrast?

M3 Interceptors will work, and can actually all face the correct direction, but I only have 1x M3, and really have no interest in buying 3x more of them, until FFG "fixes" them.

I did some test fitting, and anything else gets really hard to fit in there for Scum. I wanted to mount a pair of Y-Wings, but they are so big, there is very little room for anything in front or behind them. I think Y-Wing in front and a M3 behind might fit, but that is tight. Khiraz has a similar problem, with 2x fitting, but anyhting ahead/behind having space issues. If the Gozanti's docking clamps were about 1/2" further apart, you could have all kinds of new fitting options.

One other note, if anyone is considering this. Modifying the docking clamps does have some dangers. I messed one of them up, and ended up cutting it all the way flat across, losing the "clamp" part near the front of the Z-95. Also, the "clamp" portion that holds around the ship does add structural support, so that turning the clamp doesn't put all the pressure on the clear plastic mount. I broke one of my Y-Wings, by putting it in the clamp, then trying to turn the clamp back onto the Gozanti... snapped the peg base in half. So if you try this, try to keep as much of the plastic as you can to "hug" the ship (like the Z-95 pic above), as it helps keep you from breaking your peg bases.

Now that you mention it, some metallic parts would look too. Rustable metallic.

You could do a white bottom like the fighters with the teeth.

I posted that image because the Gozanti already looks like it has a mouth.

If you take three photos of your Gozanti, top, front, side (orthographic),

then you can work with the digital copies and not have to waste paint.

As it is space, no need to have all deploying in the same direction. And this is individualised S&V, not orderly non-nonsense empire with stupid drill routines

Probably to late now, but would it fit having the docked ships deploying at 90degrees to the sides (released as "broadsides")?

Looking forward to see a really f***ed up, ancient, weathered rustbucket. Some old battle damage maybe? And maybe some of the plates newer look, later-cheap-welded-on-armour-plate fixes.

Just as an example of a lighter belly Gozanti.

Just a suggestion. Judging by the first picture, if you cut the frontal clamps shorter (to about half their length) you should be able to place all your docked ships looking forward. It won't fit TIEs anymore, though.

Something like this (poor "drawing"):

_______________ (Gozanti floor)

|| ||

|| XXX>>> (front ship)

XXX>>> (back ship)

Just a suggestion. Judging by the first picture, if you cut the frontal clamps shorter (to about half their length) you should be able to place all your docked ships looking forward. It won't fit TIEs anymore, though.

Something like this (poor "drawing"):

_______________ (Gozanti floor)

|| ||

|| XXX>>> (front ship)

XXX>>> (back ship)

Sabier,

I will have to take a look at that. It would mean cutting the clamp in half (taking a portion of it out), then gluing it back together to shorten it... but that might work. It would mean that the clamp could not take a TIE/Fighter anymore, as the wings would be to tall.

But, I will look at it and see if that could work. Raising the front pair a bit would let things fit.

Just wondering out loud here - why wouldn't the Y wings fit if they all faced the same direction? The front of the Y should nest inside of the back of the engines.

There is about a 1/4" overlap with 2 Y-Wings. I would need to shorten one, like was mentioned in another post.

As it is space, no need to have all deploying in the same direction. And this is individualised S&V, not orderly non-nonsense empire with stupid drill routines

Probably to late now, but would it fit having the docked ships deploying at 90degrees to the sides (released as "broadsides")?

Looking forward to see a really f***ed up, ancient, weathered rustbucket. Some old battle damage maybe? And maybe some of the plates newer look, later-cheap-welded-on-armour-plate fixes.

I wanted to do that, but that would have taken a LOT of modification. The Docking Clamps that come with teh Gozanti actually have a peg inside them (just like the top of the ship stick), so that limits the orientation of the ship to either forwards or backwards. The clamp has a locking mechanism into the ship that only lets it go in those 2 ways without a LOT of modification.

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The picture above is my biggest fear. I almost never want to mount any of my ships on it.

Scyks should fit, shouldn't they? I have a Gozanti I've been planning to use as a Scum ship for a while, and that has been my plan.

Just as an example of a lighter belly Gozanti.

Where's that from?

Just as an example of a lighter belly Gozanti.

Where's that from?

The clone wars show. there are Gozantis everywhere!

So, here's an idea...

Since the docking clamps just kinda click into the Gozanti, I would imagine it would be super easy to replace the FFG ones with customized 3D printed ones that would fit specific ships that you wanted them to, or maybe find a generic design that would fit multiple of the ships.

Has anyone painted one like the black sun faction?

Also on one of the ship cards shows a cool red gozantis anyone do that one?

I also want to do a custom but was thinking another imperial version or the black sun even know the engines are different.

This would be a cool large ship for the scum if it were re-released as a Black Sun version.

A Scum Gozanti would probably roll with the clamps off.

I think a scum Gozanti shouldn't have clamps, leave some stuff for imperials!

I will be posting up my Scum Gozanti soon in a new thread. Most of the work is done, I will get it up here once I get it in primer.

Also thanks for the mention in the OP

Scyks should fit, shouldn't they? I have a Gozanti I've been planning to use as a Scum ship for a while, and that has been my plan.

Yes, Scyks will fit, but I only have 1 Scyk, and I just can't bring myself to buy anymore until they are more flyable.

The picture above is my biggest fear. I almost never want to mount any of my ships on it.

I understand that. I will be filing the edges down so that it doesn't scratch up the ships, but I wanted to take a picture to give an idea of how to modify the Docking Clamps, at least to fit Z-95's

So, here's an idea...

Since the docking clamps just kinda click into the Gozanti, I would imagine it would be super easy to replace the FFG ones with customized 3D printed ones that would fit specific ships that you wanted them to, or maybe find a generic design that would fit multiple of the ships.

Well, they actually have a bar on the top which slides in, then the entire clamp rotates 90 degrees to "lock" into the Gozanti. I might try to take a picture to post.

So it wouldn't be impossible to make a new one, but I don't think it rates as "super easy", sadly.

I will be posting up my Scum Gozanti soon in a new thread. Most of the work is done, I will get it up here once I get it in primer.

Also thanks for the mention in the OP

Your welcome, and I am looking forward to see your Gozanti. Please PM me when you do, as I want to see it.

The pic you posted of the Transport looks AMAZING, and is an inspiration for how I would love my Scum Transport (once I buy a second GR-75) to look... but sadly, I have never really painted models before, so I think it will be awhile before I can paint that well.

A Scum Gozanti would probably roll with the clamps off.

I would agree that, thematically, this is true. But, I play X-Wing with my 2 kids, so I need to keep 3 functional factions (3-way FFA is the typical game), and this is what is really prompting the Scum Huge Ship conversion ideas. And given that, I am trying to make the ships functional, and somewhat balanced, so without overhauling the ship stats/points/upgrades, the easiest way for parity in our games is give it the docking clamp option, but without restrictions on what can be docked. My original idea was to dock 2x Y-Wings and 2x Z-95's or Khiraz's, for a potentially powerful drop-in group.

Or just rule Docking Clamps as Imperial Only. Suppressor Jammer Gozantis are still pretty potent.

Well, they actually have a bar on the top which slides in, then the entire clamp rotates 90 degrees to "lock" into the Gozanti. I might try to take a picture to post.

So it wouldn't be impossible to make a new one, but I don't think it rates as "super easy", sadly.

Yeah I know about the bar lock thing, thats what I was referring to. What I meant by 'super easy' is that it would be an easy piece to trade out (since its removable) vs the Winglets on the Raider are NOT super easy to replace.

Just need to find a 3D printer to make one! (HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE MEL)

Well, they actually have a bar on the top which slides in, then the entire clamp rotates 90 degrees to "lock" into the Gozanti. I might try to take a picture to post.

So it wouldn't be impossible to make a new one, but I don't think it rates as "super easy", sadly.

Yeah I know about the bar lock thing, thats what I was referring to. What I meant by 'super easy' is that it would be an easy piece to trade out (since its removable) vs the Winglets on the Raider are NOT super easy to replace.

Just need to find a 3D printer to make one! (HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE MEL)

That has been on my mind for some time. I am waiting for the prices to come down just a little bit. I really want to print some cups for my Stanley organizers too!

This is excellent...been thinking about a Scum Gozanti since getting into X-Wing at the start of the year...but coz I was nervous about chopping up the clamps, I've been thinking along the lines of a small group [maybe a minor Hutt] using salvaged TIEs along with Y's etc...after all, I guess the Goz is really for transporting ships without hyperdrives?

...I figure that if there are enough parts around to cobble Y-Ties etc, then why not just rebuild battle-damaged TIEs, and maybe have some ex-Academy pilots [like Biggs] who join scum rather than rebels - here's one thought:

Only got my 2nd Goz last week, to try weathering & beating-up - not great with a paintbrush, though, so will maybe try with pencils [ https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/190091-weathering-with-pencilsdirt-streaks-grime-rust-blaster-burns/ ]

Really looking forward to seeing how these conversions work out, and so hoping someone manages to 3D-print some aftermarket clamps...although I guess FFG might not be too happy about that [although maybe better than inundating them with "my clamp broke, please send a replacement" requests ]

Cheers