Very true, those two slipped my mind. Jedi fighters and droid ships would be great in the game if done properly. Maybe we should start a thread on ship/pilot ideas for the prequel era

That's something I could easily edit into the OP if people want to post their ideas. Might give people coming into the thread something new to look at and get some theorycrafting going.

I'm still a fan of my A.I. mod idea. It seems very droid-y :c

People can claim they would never buy prequel ships, but I'm doubtful.

The same thing was said with EU ships, then huge ships, and then the scum faction.

Guess what? Most bought anyways because the models were beautiful, the ships had cool play features, and biggest of all the new upgrades people wanted.

When 7th ed of 40k came out I swore to never buy from GW again two years on ive kept that oath and not once come close to breaking it.

I will never buy anything prequel related, not for the rest of my life.

So no Y-Wings, Headhunters for you? And if we take your "related" serious than no Stardestroyers and TIE-Fighers either, because the Jedi Attack Cruiser is the template for all imperial star destroyers and the separatist were basically using Sienar Fleet Systems designs which transformed into TIE-Fighters after the company got imperialized.

Fine by me,

I take all that stuff and on top of it with pleasure droid-fighters like the Nantex Fighters, Advanced Droid Starfighter, the Hyena Bomber, Vulture Droids, Rogues,Belbullab-22 , along sides with N-1, Delta-7 Aethersprites, the Jedi-Starfighter. ARC-170's, V-Wings, V-19 Torrent Starfighters, G9 Rigger freighters, and not to forget the mandalorian Kom'rk-class fighters, and the Hutt HH-87 Starhopper.

We really got a tons of star fighters in the prequel era, didn't we?

Republic ships wouldn't go to rebels the new canon books make it very clear the empire used the arc and eta until the tie was developed.

So that means your giving empire astromech's as well now.

That won't please rebel players.

But the last thing empire wants is yet more swarm ships.

Indeed. Though the TIE-Fighter was developed by the same company as the droid fighters, basically the empire absorbed the republic and separatist, which makes sense as the sith lead both factions too.

If you want to keep the 3 faction system, imho the logical way would be the create Sith and Jedi as their own factions and declare the Rebel Alliance sub faction of the Jedi, while the empire is a sub-faction of the Sith. Now you add the Jedi Armies to the Jedi Faction and the Separatists are Forces which belong to the Sith. Which makes in context to the cannon a lot of sense, because the Jedi were in control of the Armies of the Republic, while Docu and his direct subordinates controlled the separatists army. Palpatine was playing everyone, but did not take more direct control of the republic military until after order 66.

This would at least solve the issue with breaking the unique playstyles of the 3 main factions. And on top of that it would fit as well the cycles of sith and jedi bringing wars over the whole galaxy, something that seems to happen for over 20,000 years in the star wars galaxy.

I think he means the stuff that was introduced with the prequels, rather than pre-existing stuff from Episodes 4, 5 and 6 that was injected into the Clone Wars era, which is fair enough - original trilogy and whatnot.

But you make a good point, almost everything has roots in the Clone Wars - the X-Wing itself is the descendant of the minds behind the Z-95 Headhunter and Arc-170, so perhaps 'everything related' is a bit of a broad statement.

Also an interesting note on the balance and compatibility of Clone Wars era ships compared to the Galactic Civil War - the Headhunter was considered old and outdated even during the Clone Wars and yet still sees use up until the Force Awakens. Nice bit of trivia.

Y-wing's, Firespray and headhunters are not prequel ships they are OT and EU.

They existed long before Lucas decided to crawl back into the directors seat and make those abominations.

Y-wing's, Firespray and headhunters are not prequel ships they are OT and EU.

They existed long before Lucas decided to crawl back into the directors seat and make those abominations.

What he's saying though is that they were conceived canonically during the prequel era, so saying that everything related to it is something you're not interested is a bit disingenuous, or perhaps just misphrased.

I admit that the prequel movies were pretty trashy, but... Bounty Hunter was a pretty awesome game at least I would like to see a repaint of Jango's Slave 1.

George Lucas despite what he claims did not have all of star wars planned out, the clone wars was a throw away line with no detail, the writers of the EU made those ships from that era, Lucas just came along later and stood on the shoulders of giants.

So no don't lump them in with the post 99 designs.

I'm not disputing any single person's feelings on the matter (looking at you, Hobojebus) but by and large I believe that most players who say they don't want prequel ships would still rush out and grab them either for the cards or for the sake of completionism or because the models just look so awesome.

I personally would rather see them release prequel ships before going further into the EU for previously unknown or unrecognizable models or even making up more ships themselves (Imperial Raider) as I have a stronger emotional connection to (say) an ARC-170 because I actually saw it in the movie rather than an E-Wing because it was mentioned in a no-longer-canon source. Might as well be taken directly from fan fiction, as far as I"m concerned.

Again, this isn't directed at anyone one Hobojebus person but even though I didn't love the prequels (and at the time was very disappointed in them, particularly TPM after waiting since 1983 for more Star Wars), I don't understand the hate towards the content, even if I do sort of understand the frustration about the lower quality of the movies and Lucas' decisions.

Sure, the movies weren't what I wanted but that doesn't stop the Bellubab-22 looking pretty sweet (on my playmat...)

Republic ships wouldn't go to rebels the new canon books make it very clear the empire used the arc and eta until the tie was developed.So that means your giving empire astromech's as well now.That won't please rebel players.But the last thing empire wants is yet more swarm ships.

Indeed. Though the TIE-Fighter was developed by the same company as the droid fighters, basically the empire absorbed the republic and separatist, which makes sense as the sith lead both factions too.If you want to keep the 3 faction system, imho the logical way would be the create Sith and Jedi as their own factions and declare the Rebel Alliance sub faction of the Jedi, while the empire is a sub-faction of the Sith. Now you add the Jedi Armies to the Jedi Faction and the Separatists are Forces which belong to the Sith. Which makes in context to the cannon a lot of sense, because the Jedi were in control of the Armies of the Republic, while Docu and his direct subordinates controlled the separatists army. Palpatine was playing everyone, but did not take more direct control of the republic military until after order 66.This would at least solve the issue with breaking the unique playstyles of the 3 main factions. And on top of that it would fit as well the cycles of sith and jedi bringing wars over the whole galaxy, something that seems to happen for over 20,000 years in the star wars galaxy.

This has been my idea for awhile as well. The game already covers multiple decades thanks to TFA and Rebels ships. Adding another 20-30 into the past wouldn't hurt.

Also at least two different mobile games already use the light and dark side and then include characters from all the movies and shows in their respective faction.

So you could have mace windu, capt rex, ezra, princess leia, and Finn fighting against Darth maul, cad bane, the inquistor, tarkin, and kylo ren for example.

As someone who is new to the game and plays with a scum only fleet, i totally agree. I must soon fly as my favorite pirate Hondo Ohnaka! Ok his ship is plain, and actually he had a few(see Rebels) but he is one of the best scum characters and would have really slippery abilities. Also Cad Bane, come on he stole a jedi holocron! I would also start a separatist fleet in a second. Imagine a 300pt game with huge ships, the Malevolence and a Dreadnought.

Hondo was in possession of Slave 1 for a little bit so they could make a Separatist or a Scum expansion of the Slave 1 in its Prequel colors with the pilots:

Jango Fett

Aurra Sing

Hondo Ohnaka

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I personally would rather see them release prequel ships before going further into the EU for previously unknown or unrecognizable models or even making up more ships themselves (Imperial Raider)

It never occurred to me that the Imperial Raider was made up, but I suppose they needed something to the scale of the Corellian corvette. The Arquitens-class Light Cruiser is maybe a bit too big.

While in some novels the Imperials field their own Corellian Corvettes ( Specter of the Past ) it makes sense to give them a more visually distinct ship for the game - and if I remember rightly - most corresponding EU ships were a bit too small or a bit too big, and not "wedge-ish".

While in some novels the Imperials field their own Corellian Corvettes ( Specter of the Past ) it makes sense to give them a more visually distinct ship for the game - and if I remember rightly - most corresponding EU ships were a bit too small or a bit too big, and not "wedge-ish".

The more important reason for this sweet little ship was the need to sell something star destroyer-ish. 270:1 does not give you room for any star destroyers. I still would like to see CR92as, CR90s and Nebulon-Bs on both sides in X-Wing.

George Lucas despite what he claims did not have all of star wars planned out, the clone wars was a throw away line with no detail, the writers of the EU made those ships from that era, Lucas just came along later and stood on the shoulders of giants.

So no don't lump them in with the post 99 designs.

Pffff, The Clone Wars has more detail and substance than any KJA garbage

Still, if you prefer EU over cannon, that is for sure a valid opinion. Does not change that all that EU stuff is now connected to the prequels. For me The Clone Wars made me quite comfortable with the clone wars era of star wars, because the series had one big advantage over the movies. Time for character development, time to show the slow transition from corrupt republic to the new order of the empire. In some ways it reconciled me with the prequels as a whole.

But neither of my or your opinion about the prequels change the fact that they offer a great amount of ships and a lot of really nice designs, fitting very well into the star wars universe and expanding possible ships greatly. It a shame that disney literally killed the only really good thing about the prequels and is unlikely to allow FFG to publish prequel ships anyway. Disney stole even half of the final season 6 of clone wars. Only a fool with more principles than reason would not use the change to play with those great ships.

George Lucas despite what he claims did not have all of star wars planned out, the clone wars was a throw away line with no detail, the writers of the EU made those ships from that era, Lucas just came along later and stood on the shoulders of giants.

So no don't lump them in with the post 99 designs.

Pffff, The Clone Wars has more detail and substance than any KJA garbage

Still, if you prefer EU over cannon, that is for sure a valid opinion. Does not change that all that EU stuff is now connected to the prequels. For me The Clone Wars made me quite comfortable with the clone wars era of star wars, because the series had one big advantage over the movies. Time for character development, time to show the slow transition from corrupt republic to the new order of the empire. In some ways it reconciled me with the prequels as a whole.

But neither of my or your opinion about the prequels change the fact that they offer a great amount of ships and a lot of really nice designs, fitting very well into the star wars universe and expanding possible ships greatly. It a shame that disney literally killed the only really good thing about the prequels and is unlikely to allow FFG to publish prequel ships anyway. Disney stole even half of the final season 6 of clone wars. Only a fool with more principles than reason would not use the change to play with those great ships.

Cartoon Network was planning on canceling The Clone Wars anyways, and though I would have loved to see it run its 8 planned seasons at least the remained of season 6 survived in the comics, books, and two animatic story arcs. Not to mention that Rebels does have alot of Clone Wars leftovers and even tries to deal with some of the planned plots for the last two seasons for Clone Wars, aka hints about Ahsoka and Rex. And while Disney may be pushing OT and ST content at the moment I kinda doubt FFG would be really into producing PT products, seeing as they like many star wars fans seem to hate or at least dislike the PT. Though, Alex Davy did say in one of the more recent podcasts that they may add Prequel stuff at some point down the line, though nothing is planned at the moment.

George Lucas despite what he claims did not have all of star wars planned out, the clone wars was a throw away line with no detail, the writers of the EU made those ships from that era, Lucas just came along later and stood on the shoulders of giants.

So no don't lump them in with the post 99 designs.

Pffff, The Clone Wars has more detail and substance than any KJA garbage

Still, if you prefer EU over cannon, that is for sure a valid opinion. Does not change that all that EU stuff is now connected to the prequels. For me The Clone Wars made me quite comfortable with the clone wars era of star wars, because the series had one big advantage over the movies. Time for character development, time to show the slow transition from corrupt republic to the new order of the empire. In some ways it reconciled me with the prequels as a whole.

But neither of my or your opinion about the prequels change the fact that they offer a great amount of ships and a lot of really nice designs, fitting very well into the star wars universe and expanding possible ships greatly. It a shame that disney literally killed the only really good thing about the prequels and is unlikely to allow FFG to publish prequel ships anyway. Disney stole even half of the final season 6 of clone wars. Only a fool with more principles than reason would not use the change to play with those great ships.

Don't forget that KJA co-wrote YJK, a pretty series for younger audiences.

I do happen to prefer EU over canon, that said, TCW was an amazing series, and certainly made the prequels a better place.

They could make a new core set with an ARC-170 and two Vulture droids. They also could mace a core set for the Old Republic era with two supremacy class starfighters and a Rebublic Liberator-class Starfighter.

I'm regards to vulture droids being too cheap. I think it would be cool and unique if you fielded a pair of them on the same stand. Similar to how fighters are in armada.

Since they are so small anyways it's another reason to do it.

8 Seasons is too many.. Generally aiming for 4 seasons is conservative and optimal for most series.

8 Seasons is too many.. Generally aiming for 4 seasons is conservative and optimal for most series.

Yea, TCW was a great show, but the era was pretty much completely saturated.

8 Seasons is too many.. Generally aiming for 4 seasons is conservative and optimal for most series.

Yea, TCW was a great show, but the era was pretty much completely saturated.

Not really, we still had a few arcs unresolved after season 5 and got a hasty mini season 6 just to clean up at least some of it. The transition from TCW to Rebels could have handled much better that way too. And Rebels Season 2 shows that this transition is even wanted by the series creators. So **** Disney. And I totally would pledge kickstarter money for a direct to amazon / netflix release of that missing 2 1/2 seasons. ;-)

Maybe I should stop saying **** disney? Nah… they are pure evil. Pure entertaining evil.

You both misunderstand me.

I'd watch 20 seasons of Star Wars anything. I am confident , nay, totally 100% sure many here would too.

In my experience, after 4 seasons any show can get dicy, and the increase of chance of pre-closure cancellation gets higher.

It's what we nearly saw on B5.

It's what we saw on TCW.

On the flip, we see series such as lost just start to fail badly after their season4 wall.

4-5 season wrapup man...