I would love to see some clone wars era ships, but I wouldnt hae an interest in clone wars era factions or pilots.
Lots of clone wars kit was used in the galactic civil war by all three factions as they are presented in xwing. I would love to see left over ships from the war for the various factions:

For instance:
Theta Class Shuttle- Imperial

Vulture droids (and various bounty hunters)- Scum

Erm... rebels... Naboo fighters and Arc fighters? Some old style ywings?

Sprays list sounds way off.

Though ships we get tons to form another 2 factions, what we seem to lack is players actually interested in playing them, though I guess scum has that very same problem as well. *g*

The biggest plus for prequels stuff is that the material is rich and cannon, clone wars had 6 seasons, we get 3 movies as well, basically getting similar amounts on stuff than the EU brings to Rebellion and New Republic Era.

People can claim they would never buy prequel ships, but I'm doubtful.

The same thing was said with EU ships, then huge ships, and then the scum faction.

Guess what? Most bought anyways because the models were beautiful, the ships had cool play features, and biggest of all the new upgrades people wanted.

People can claim they would never buy prequel ships, but I'm doubtful.

The same thing was said with EU ships, then huge ships, and then the scum faction.

Guess what? Most bought anyways because the models were beautiful, the ships had cool play features, and biggest of all the new upgrades people wanted.

I can see people buying CW-Era Headhunters and Y-Wings to make their rebel and scum lists look a bit more varied and bought off the free market. Would be a nice little touch I think, to make the list look a bit more ramshackle to truly reflect the dire straits the rebels are in - every hull's a goal!

As someone who is new to the game and plays with a scum only fleet, i totally agree. I must soon fly as my favorite pirate Hondo Ohnaka! Ok his ship is plain, and actually he had a few(see Rebels) but he is one of the best scum characters and would have really slippery abilities. Also Cad Bane, come on he stole a jedi holocron! I would also start a separatist fleet in a second. Imagine a 300pt game with huge ships, the Malevolence and a Dreadnought.

People can claim they would never buy prequel ships, but I'm doubtful.

The same thing was said with EU ships, then huge ships, and then the scum faction.

Guess what? Most bought anyways because the models were beautiful, the ships had cool play features, and biggest of all the new upgrades people wanted.

When 7th ed of 40k came out I swore to never buy from GW again two years on ive kept that oath and not once come close to breaking it.

I will never buy anything prequel related, not for the rest of my life.

People can claim they would never buy prequel ships, but I'm doubtful.

The same thing was said with EU ships, then huge ships, and then the scum faction.

Guess what? Most bought anyways because the models were beautiful, the ships had cool play features, and biggest of all the new upgrades people wanted.

When 7th ed of 40k came out I swore to never buy from GW again two years on ive kept that oath and not once come close to breaking it.

I will never buy anything prequel related, not for the rest of my life.

Sounds like a very close-minded attitude to have, if you'll pardon me. But to each their own, the prequel stuff (and 40k, for that matter!) isn't for everyone.

What's wrong with 7th ed anyway?

There are arguments for and against it. Some people love the Prequel stuff, others don't. The same applies to EU, Battlestar Galactica, gay and lesbian marriage equality, flavour of pizza, etc. You like it, you don't or you're impartial (people don't tend to voice the latter).

I think the biggest indicator that we won't see prequel era stuff on the tables can be found by taking a quick glance through the shopping centres. With the exception of some animated stuff, you just don't see any prequel era merch.

I argue that Disney is intentionally trying to make us forget about that experience and focus on the OT that made SW great. By saturating the shopping centres and supermarkets with images of lovable and memorable characters such as R2D2, C3P0, Darth, Millennium Falcon, etc it re-ignites our love for what SW was .. and distract us from what it became.

For this reason, I doubt we will see much prequel era stuff in any forum (table top, clothing, electronic, entertainment, etc)

I argue that Disney is intentionally trying to make us forget about that experience and focus on the OT that made SW great. By saturating the shopping centres and supermarkets with images of lovable and memorable characters such as R2D2, C3P0, Darth, Millennium Falcon, etc it re-ignites our love for what SW was .. and distract us from what it became.

I wouldn't say that, Disney have introduced a lot of prequel material in Rebels and with wave VIII's release that may well be our gateway into it. Bringing back characters from the prequel era seems to contradict the would-be desire to erase it from the annals of history.

That said, I think the hype is very much in the current era stuff, that being Galactic Civil War and the Force Awakens. Because that's the current and target market it doesn't surprise me that emphasis is being placed on these products, but I wouldn't rule out Clone Wars era stuff just yet. Even so, I doubt we'll see any Clone Wars stuff on the table for a long time if ever, if only because the majority of the market is opposed to it (apparently!)

I argue that Disney is intentionally trying to make us forget about that experience and focus on the OT that made SW great. By saturating the shopping centres and supermarkets with images of lovable and memorable characters such as R2D2, C3P0, Darth, Millennium Falcon, etc it re-ignites our love for what SW was .. and distract us from what it became.

I wouldn't say that, Disney have introduced a lot of prequel material in Rebels and with wave VIII's release that may well be our gateway into it. Bringing back characters from the prequel era seems to contradict the would-be desire to erase it from the annals of history.

Fair point. They are exercising a lot of control over what elements of the prequels are being exposed though. I haven't heard a whiff of Jar Jar since they bought Lucasfilm.

I argue that Disney is intentionally trying to make us forget about that experience and focus on the OT that made SW great. By saturating the shopping centres and supermarkets with images of lovable and memorable characters such as R2D2, C3P0, Darth, Millennium Falcon, etc it re-ignites our love for what SW was .. and distract us from what it became.

I wouldn't say that, Disney have introduced a lot of prequel material in Rebels and with wave VIII's release that may well be our gateway into it. Bringing back characters from the prequel era seems to contradict the would-be desire to erase it from the annals of history.

Fair point. They are exercising a lot of control over what elements of the prequels are being exposed though. I haven't heard a whiff of Jar Jar since they bought Lucasfilm.

I hope the Rebels team know that the introduction of Jar-Jar into the series would mean death itself.

People can claim they would never buy prequel ships, but I'm doubtful.

The same thing was said with EU ships, then huge ships, and then the scum faction.

Guess what? Most bought anyways because the models were beautiful, the ships had cool play features, and biggest of all the new upgrades people wanted.

When 7th ed of 40k came out I swore to never buy from GW again two years on ive kept that oath and not once come close to breaking it.

I will never buy anything prequel related, not for the rest of my life.

Sounds like a very close-minded attitude to have, if you'll pardon me. But to each their own, the prequel stuff (and 40k, for that matter!) isn't for everyone.

What's wrong with 7th ed anyway?

6th ed sucked 7th was a cash grab that made very few changes but still wanted £50 for a book that was a copy paste job.

GW needed a way to boost sales for the end year report 7th fixed none of the issues 6th had and created more.

I can't support a company that treats it's customers so poorly.

That's fair dues, I can understand your reasoning =) Personally I've not had much of a problem with Games Workshop in the past (other than their ridiculous prices, but that's why I go to a third-party retailer to lessen the blow...) and they've not made much to really sell the hobby to me other than the new Deathwatch box, which I got just for the Genecult.

One thing that does raise my hopes for the company however is the reintroduction of Specialist Games. Blood Bowl and Battlefleet Gothing returning does tempt me, and it almost (almost!) seems like they're listening to people.

I would like prequal trilogy ships. I realy liked some of the republic clone fighters, and the Vulture droids. As to how to integrate them.....the separatists could be duel allied with Scum and Empire, or just Scum as both set ups would line up with the fluff. The Republic stuff could be dual with the Rebellion and Empire, or just Rebellion, as again either way would work with the fluff. The Imperials may have just phased out the Republic ships and never looked back, and the Rebellion pulled stuff out of Imperial mothballs to use it until they started using their own ships.

Then again, their could be a separation of ships coming to the game, where it is compatible yet separate. Say a Clone Wars, Original Trilogy, and finally a Force Awakens set, in which each has it's own circuit. Imagine how it would play if the T-70 wasn't allowed in....The X-wing, and whatever fixes were added wouldn't leave it still behind the power curve as the competitor that would benefit the most from X-wing fixes would be time locked out. Then have an unlimited version where anything goes.

The Clone Wars starter could be a single ARC-170 and 2 Vulture Droids. At least I think the Republic ship was called the ARC-170.

I would love to see some prequel ships, but that's just because I want more ships hehe.

In all seriousness though. If they were to make Droid Tri-fighters I would swarm the crap out of them. Just like I did with that Starwars CCG where you built the ships. If you got three sets of mail in offers from both Walmart and Target(which I did) you were able to build a complete army of Tri-fighter droids with only a few points left over.

I want them but as new factions. None of the old republic stuff is really rebel nor imperial. The cis of course is its own thing too.

I love to play Republic and Confederacy ships in a game of X-Wing, especially since the prequel trilogy and Clone Wars had some really cool ship designs and there's tons of ships to choose from that era.

However, from a gameplay standpoint, I feel it would be tough to make Republic and Confederacy ships play much differently than the way Rebels and Imperials play now. Republic ships would most likely play almost exactly as Rebels do now with shields, higher primary weapon stats, and more upgrade slots. Confederacy would play a lot like the Empire with Droid Starfighter swarms, high agility stats, better maneuverability, cheaper ship costs, little-to-no shields, and less upgrade slots. This is just based on how the ships appeared to functioned in the movies and television show.

The bigger difference between the factions and the uniqueness that sets them apart from the Rebels and Empire would come in the upgrade cards and named pilots. Outside of that, I don't see the two factions having their own unique playstyles that separate them enough from Rebels, Empire, or even Scum.

Republic ships wouldn't go to rebels the new canon books make it very clear the empire used the arc and eta until the tie was developed.

So that means your giving empire astromech's as well now.

That won't please rebel players.

But the last thing empire wants is yet more swarm ships.

Republic ships wouldn't go to rebels the new canon books make it very clear the empire used the arc and eta until the tie was developed.

That's true, but I still think it's a possibility that the Rebellion could salvage old Republic ships for use against the Empire, if only going by a few scenes and episodes in Rebels (one where Ezra, Sabine and Zeb discover an old Republic base filled with gunships and other craft and another where they're given the coordinates to all these bases) which opens up the possibility of recycled stuff, perhaps not in terms of X-Wing itself but definitely from a lore standpoint. I don't think you've got to worry about Imperials getting astromechs - I honestly can't see Republic and Empire being a single faction.

The bigger difference between the factions and the uniqueness that sets them apart from the Rebels and Empire would come in the upgrade cards and named pilots. Outside of that, I don't see the two factions having their own unique playstyles that separate them enough from Rebels, Empire, or even Scum.

I can see Droids working in a similar way to how Attani Mind-link works, if only not quite as crap - what with having integrated and advanced A.I. and what-have-you that process information more rapidly than the average pilot can. The Republic would probably go down the route of having a few quite sturdy ships with the occasional ace pilot or arc dodger thrown in there in the form of a Jedi pilot. The main problem with introducing two new factions would honestly be that it would cluster the already considerable pool of ships, so I think it's more a case of making the ships feel unique rather than the playstyle. Honestly the style of every squad changes with the drop of the hat - there's little stopping Rebels or Scum from trying swarm lists (and pulling them off rather well in some cases) or Imperials using better ships like the Defender where a Rebel player may use a TLT Y-Wing.

One issue would be named ships along the mainstay forces of the Confederacy - other than notable MagnaGuard there are very few droid pilots, or even special variants of fighter. In my mind I picture Confederacy playing very much like Tyranids might in 40k, where you have a central intelligence node (let's say, for argument, General Grievous) controlling a squad of fighters (again for argument, let's say Vulture Droids.)

Grievous is your 'ace' of the list and the rest is filled with chaff Vulture Droids that gets boosted up depending on the proximity they are to Grievous. Inside range 1 they may reroll dice in a similar way to Howlrunner, or perhaps Confederate ships gain an extra A.I. upgrade slot that changes this bonus depending on what you take? Of course, it may all go to pot once the linchpin of your squad is shot down, but I feel this holds true to the feeling of a fleet of automated starfighters. Of course, crewed fighters like the Geonosian fighter or the Belbullab-22 may not have access to this, but instead they gain the benefit of traditional named pilots.

I like theorycrafting.

The republic became the empire it makes all the sense in the world they'd be the same faction.

The emperor couldn't use separatist ships without raising very awkward questions.

The republic became the empire it makes all the sense in the world they'd be the same faction.

The emperor couldn't use separatist ships without raising very awkward questions.

It does in that sense, but that would also mean them having to made a ton of additions to the Rebels as well without turning the two factions into the same thing with some slightly different ships. From a gamplay perspective it'd be very unlikely.

Or they can avoid the whole mess by not introducing the prequels at all.

Are we avoiding the elephant in the room...anakin skywalker facing darth vader. Do we ignore the paradox or have guide lines to avoid such a situation

Are we avoiding the elephant in the room...anakin skywalker facing darth vader. Do we ignore the paradox or have guide lines to avoid such a situation

Thats not different from Luke facing Luke or scum Boba facing imp Boba.

Are we avoiding the elephant in the room...anakin skywalker facing darth vader. Do we ignore the paradox or have guide lines to avoid such a situation

He has to face his fear one way or another...