Round 1 bombing your opponent

By Crabbok, in X-Wing

This, unfortunately, will not work as written in the OP, due to the nature of the deployment rules.

Choosing a maneuver when deploying does not count as revealing a dial, so Leia will not affect the maneuver difficulty..

I was just about to Suggest

Advanced Sensors

Engine Upgrade to get that extra 3 (1 length) templates of distance for extra assurance of bombing. but you can still do that, and just make sure your shuttle has an ABT on it. so when combat comes its behind your enemy with massive damage.

so this means your cant Adrenaline rush it either correct?

Edited by Panic 217

In playing with this deployment in Vassal, I can't see what I may be doing wrong to get the Mine to be deployed past the far Range 2 box line. It leaves it a good 3-straight away from the opposite deployment range 1 zone.

But granted, with the AR not working with a deployed ship, it's kind of a moot point.

This, unfortunately, will not work as written in the OP, due to the nature of the deployment rules.

Choosing a maneuver when deploying does not count as revealing a dial, so Leia will not affect the maneuver difficulty..

I was just about to Suggest

Advanced Sensors

Engine Upgrade to get that extra 3 (1 length) templates of distance for extra assurance of bombing. but you can still do that, and just make sure your shuttle has an ABT on it. so when combat comes its behind your enemy with massive damage.

so this means your cant Adrenaline rush it either correct?

Correct, AR also triggers on revealing a dial.

This, unfortunately, will not work as written in the OP, due to the nature of the deployment rules.

Choosing a maneuver when deploying does not count as revealing a dial, so Leia will not affect the maneuver difficulty..

BUZZKILL

This, unfortunately, will not work as written in the OP, due to the nature of the deployment rules.

Choosing a maneuver when deploying does not count as revealing a dial, so Leia will not affect the maneuver difficulty..

I was just about to Suggest

Advanced Sensors

Engine Upgrade to get that extra 3 (1 length) templates of distance for extra assurance of bombing. but you can still do that, and just make sure your shuttle has an ABT on it. so when combat comes its behind your enemy with massive damage.

so this means your cant Adrenaline rush it either correct?

Correct, AR also triggers on revealing a dial.

And Lightning Reflexes would give you the stress before you could take an action correct?

won't mess up anything as much as messing up almost your entire list by having everyone facing the wrong way

You want the enemy to chase the Ghost with your aux arc.

In playing with this deployment in Vassal, I can't see what I may be doing wrong to get the Mine to be deployed past the far Range 2 box line. It leaves it a good 3-straight away from the opposite deployment range 1 zone.

But granted, with the AR not working with a deployed ship, it's kind of a moot point.

Yeah I just did the math using 'rule of 11' principles and it's not going to reach. There are ~18.5 bases between deployment zones and the bomb is dropped ~4.5 bases away from the enemy deployment line if this were to actually work as described.

If you want to Go HAM with a turn 1 bomb

could put

Hera (VCX)

Adv Sensors

Leia

Engine Upgrade

Daredevil on Ezra

with Sabine

and Experimental interface

and your choice of "action bombs"

Deploy on 45 degree angle so to get extra range from the 1 bank template.

Adv Sens Boost in directo to straighten out

5K, leia

Deploy

you 4 straight.

Daredevil

EI

Bomb

take two stress, and roll two damage for DD

Edited by Panic 217

This, unfortunately, will not work as written in the OP, due to the nature of the deployment rules.

Choosing a maneuver when deploying does not count as revealing a dial, so Leia will not affect the maneuver difficulty..

Interesting.

However, Leia's card doesn't say "Reveal a Dial", it only says "reveal a maneuver". So while deploying doesn't count as revealing a DIAL - Leia COULD still apply to it.

Leia could certainly use all the help she can get in terms of making her see more play.

It's totally impractical, and if it fails, you're in an awful positional disadvantage which will likely spell your defeat.

Meaning it's stupid enough the crew from Rebels would do it.

So, ya, pretty fitting.

And Lightning Reflexes would give you the stress before you could take an action correct?

Yes, LR allows you to execute a difficult maneuver even while stressed, so you could double K-Turn for instance.

This, unfortunately, will not work as written in the OP, due to the nature of the deployment rules.

Choosing a maneuver when deploying does not count as revealing a dial, so Leia will not affect the maneuver difficulty..

Interesting.

However, Leia's card doesn't say "Reveal a Dial", it only says "reveal a maneuver". So while deploying doesn't count as revealing a DIAL - Leia COULD still apply to it.

Leia could certainly use all the help she can get in terms of making her see more play.

I really sincerely doubt it. :D .

You are, after all, not revealing anything.

This, unfortunately, will not work as written in the OP, due to the nature of the deployment rules.

Choosing a maneuver when deploying does not count as revealing a dial, so Leia will not affect the maneuver difficulty..

Interesting.

However, Leia's card doesn't say "Reveal a Dial", it only says "reveal a maneuver". So while deploying doesn't count as revealing a DIAL - Leia COULD still apply to it.

Leia could certainly use all the help she can get in terms of making her see more play.

I really sincerely doubt it. :D .

You are, after all, not revealing anything.

other than my master plan of doom! Seriously though you do reveal, verbally, to your opponent which maneuver you plan to execute.

To be honest I don't think they considered deployment when the designed Adrenaline Rush or Leia Organa. I don't think it's unreasonable for them to be errata'd to reflect that when you EXECUTE a red maneuver it becomes white. Obviously there's probably 20+ scenarios that would require testing before they could do that... but I think it would go a long way to breathing some life into a Leia Organa card that has really never seen any good use.

And if the only broken mechanic of such an errata is my example here, I think it's fine. It's a 1-trick pony that will leave you seriously vulnerable and backwards afterward.

won't mess up anything as much as messing up almost your entire list by having everyone facing the wrong way

You want the enemy to chase the Ghost with your aux arc.

You don't because this trick involves deploying the phantom

Unless you spend even more points to launch torpedoes out your backside.

Its a one trick pony and an "I've seen this before" type of move, but I like it. There is potential to change up what you take based on the meta of your area (or opponent in non-competitive situations.)

Its still pretty funny and then the threat of it happening is on the table, so as your opponents worry 'will you do it again' is always a fun thing to have in the bag, I mean it isn't like the build is useless otherwise.

Here are some of my thoughts at lobbing mined: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/205071-lobbing-mines/

It looks like getting the enemy on round 1 isn't going to work out with your cool shenanigans, Crabbok, but Hera with Chopper, Sabine and Cluster/Proximity Mines could pull it off at any time during a match. Not too bad, I think, because as was mentioned upthread, the threat is constantly looming over your opponent.

Edited by Parakitor

Well even if you can't do it, you can still shoot for a round 2 kill. And if you select hera as your pilot you can always set a K-Turn and then change it. If your opponent does a 4 forward or faster, you can still put your phantom behind them if you advanced sensors boost, then K-turn and deploy.

Unless you spend even more points to launch torpedoes out your backside.

I call that Taco Night

OOOhhhh ooohhh ooohhh...... I figured it out!

So even if Princess Leia doesn't work here... there is still a solution.

Simply equip Ezra in the Phantom with Cool Hand. Ignore the stress from the K-Turn and STILL drop your bomb.

Crazy Combo still works!

OOOhhhh ooohhh ooohhh...... I figured it out!

So even if Princess Leia doesn't work here... there is still a solution.

Simply equip Ezra in the Phantom with Cool Hand. Ignore the stress from the K-Turn and STILL drop your bomb.

Crazy Combo still works!

cool hand doesnt remove the stress, just provides you a token.

OOOhhhh ooohhh ooohhh...... I figured it out!

So even if Princess Leia doesn't work here... there is still a solution.

Simply equip Ezra in the Phantom with Cool Hand. Ignore the stress from the K-Turn and STILL drop your bomb.

Crazy Combo still works!

cool hand doesnt remove the stress, just provides you a token.

Doh! I totally read the card wrong. Too early in the morning. Princess Leia needs errata then.

How about using the gozanti to catapult deathrain? Is that a viable option?

How about using the gozanti to catapult deathrain? Is that a viable option?

Punishers A) are way too big to fit Physically and B) are not dockable by definition of the Clamps. :(

although with the gozanti, you COULD attach 4x Gama Squad Vets (Imp aces)

with the Vector Title

have the vets have Adrenaline Rush.....

EM Action bomb and deploy your 4 bombers in a fan laying out Bomb justice... Bonus points for littering the field with cluster mines.

this is my eureka moment.... wanted to leave that in.

I DID IT....>!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you want to Go HAM with a turn 1 bomb

could put

Hera (VCX)

Adv Sensors

Engine Upgrade

ADRENALINE RUSH!!! !! Ezra

with Sabine

your choice of "action bombs"

Deploy on 45 degree angle so to get extra range from the 1 bank template.

Adv Sens Boost in directon to straighten out

5K,

Deploy

you 4K ADRENALINE RUSH

Bomb

Edited by Panic 217

OOOhhhh ooohhh ooohhh...... I figured it out!

So even if Princess Leia doesn't work here... there is still a solution.

Simply equip Ezra in the Phantom with Cool Hand. Ignore the stress from the K-Turn and STILL drop your bomb.

Crazy Combo still works!

Adrenaline Rush is the card I think you are looking for.