New FAQ up.

By Vykk Draygo, in X-Wing

Esege and Poe just became a bit more interesting.

the new stuff about measuring range with autothrusters and tactician is interesting.

So if any part of your base is at range 3, autothrusters kick in. Or if any part of your base is at range 2, tactician kicks in.

So you could be getting shot at range one and still get stressed from tactician, or shot at range 2 and still have autothrusters kick in.

About the bolded: No. Tactician requires that any part of the defending ship's base be at range 2 WITHIN YOUR FIRING ARC. But Autothrusters as well as rolling an extra red or green die for range measure closest point to closest point.

The FAQ changed autothrusters, don't post misinformation.

"This card should read:“When defending, if you are inside the attacker’s firing arc beyond range 2 or outside the attacker’s firing arc, you may change 1 of your blank results to a result. You can equip this card only if you have the action icon.”

Wade Piche clarified that maneuver reference sheets are fine on Facebook. So what are they banning with that outside material rule? Googled strategies? Texts from friends?

That's what I would enforce. Third party apps may be a gray area, too. I would say it's basically... if it's FFG released information it's fine. If it's forum posts, strategies, or written notes about how to counteract things, it's not.

Hopefully this does not apply to situations when your opponent is just barely slow-playing enough that so that you can check Facebook between dials.

I wouldn't go over and rip a cell phone out of a hand, or even ask someone to put their phone down. However, I do think if your opponent says "please put your phone away" it's within their right.

Edited by HurricaneMaanen

Oh FFS, FFG. How have you still messed up Autothrusters/Inquisitor?

When defending, if you are inside the attacker’s firing arc beyond range 2 or outside the attacker’s firing arc,

you may change 1 of your blank results to a result.

OK, it depends on the range you are at within the firing arc, not the range of the attack.

So, the Inquisitor doesn't stop it, because that just alters the range of the attack.

Autothrusters now reference the specific range of the attack, and therefore never trigger against The Inquisitor’s primary weapon.

Wait, what? Autothrusters doesn't referenece the specific range of the attack! You could've said that, but you didn't!

nashtah Pup keeps Veteran Instincts or Adaptability if it was on Bossk..... Interesting.

Should've let him simply keep his EPT.

OK, it depends on the range you are at within the firing arc, not the range of the attack.

How are these different? At least as far as the Inquisitor goes, who has no way to attack outside of his arc?

nashtah Pup keeps Veteran Instincts or Adaptability if it was on Bossk..... Interesting.

It keeps the PS not the EPT.

OK, it depends on the range you are at within the firing arc, not the range of the attack.

How are these different? At least as far as the Inquisitor goes, who has no way to attack outside of his arc?

The Inquistor sets the range of attack to 1, he doesn't alter the range between the ships.

OK, it depends on the range you are at within the firing arc, not the range of the attack.

How are these different? At least as far as the Inquisitor goes, who has no way to attack outside of his arc?

They've added a whole new section about measuring range within arc, and nowhere does it say to instead use the range of the attack for non-PWT ships.

They specifically say that only the range of the attack is treated as range 1, not the range of other abilities.

They say that Autothrusters references the range of the attack as justification for why it does not work, but it does not.

Edited by Rawling

Holy cow I think you got enough answers to your question Kdubb lol

I'm considering asking again in a different context to see if I can get another 20 answers...

And still no answer to Omega Leader v R7 astromech :(

It kind of hints at the answer with the phrasing about effects generating from the target locked ship, but it would nice to have a definitive answer.

Doesn't it modify Omega Leader's dice?

It makes Omega Leader modify his own dice.

RIght, so it doesn't need a FAQ since his card has nothing to do with his own dice. I mean, you can actually Juke Omega Leader so R7 works just fine, correct? Or am I also misreading GZ's post?

Edited by AlexW

OK, it depends on the range you are at within the firing arc, not the range of the attack.

How are these different? At least as far as the Inquisitor goes, who has no way to attack outside of his arc?

They've added a whole new section about measuring range within arc, and nowhere does it say to instead use the range of the attack for non-PWT ships.

They specifically say that only the range of the attack is treated as range 1, not the range of other abilities.

They say that Autothrusters references the range of the attack as justification for why it does not work, but it does not.

For a non-turret ship, what else is "in arc beyond Range 2" but the range of the attack?

If you thought that The Inquisitor canceled Autothrusters before 4/2/2016 then you were wrong and have nothing to feel vindicated about.

Yeah, keep tellin' yourself that.

There are folks who didn't need it spelled out in the FAQ because we can read and reason.

And then there are the folks who thought Autothrusters was a special exceptional snowflake.

The FAQ is about 70% for the latter. Congratulations on needing remedial help.

For a non-turret ship, what else is "in arc beyond Range 2" but the range of the attack?

Where does it say in the rules that the two are the same? The section on measuring range in arc makes no mention of the attack range.

In fact, two paragraphs or so below, the rules still say

When a player declares a ship’s ability that requires another ship (or ships) to be at a certain range, the player trying to resolve the ability can measure range from their ship to any valid ships before resolving the ability.

No mention of using attack range if the card says range inside arc.

Take the petty fighting elsewhere.

If you thought that The Inquisitor canceled Autothrusters before 4/2/2016 then you were wrong and have nothing to feel vindicated about.

Yeah, keep tellin' yourself that.

There are folks who didn't need it spelled out in the FAQ because we can read and reason.

And then there are the folks who thought Autothrusters was a special exceptional snowflake.

The FAQ is about 70% for the latter. Congratulations on needing remedial help.

The interaction was such a headache that they issued errata to clear it up. But sure, the problem is that I'm just such a dunce.

If you thought that The Inquisitor canceled Autothrusters before 4/2/2016 then you were wrong and have nothing to feel vindicated about.

Yeah, keep tellin' yourself that.

There are folks who didn't need it spelled out in the FAQ because we can read and reason.

And then there are the folks who thought Autothrusters was a special exceptional snowflake.

The FAQ is about 70% for the latter. Congratulations on needing remedial help.

To be fair, while the intent may have been clear, they actually had to change the wording of ATs so it did work.

If you thought that The Inquisitor canceled Autothrusters before 4/2/2016 then you were wrong and have nothing to feel vindicated about.

Yeah, keep tellin' yourself that.

There are folks who didn't need it spelled out in the FAQ because we can read and reason.

And then there are the folks who thought Autothrusters was a special exceptional snowflake.

The FAQ is about 70% for the latter. Congratulations on needing remedial help.

The Inquisitor's FAQ entry makes it clear that this was change:

"Autothrusters now reference the specific range of the attack, and therefore never trigger against The Inquisitor’s primary weapon."

I don't know why you can't just recognize that you made a mistake. It happens. It's not such a big deal that it needs to be danced around.

Wade Piche clarified that maneuver reference sheets are fine on Facebook. So what are they banning with that outside material rule? Googled strategies? Texts from friends?

That's what I would enforce. Third party apps may be a gray area, too. I would say it's basically... if it's FFG released information it's fine. If it's forum posts, strategies, or written notes about how to counteract things, it's not.

Hopefully this does not apply to situations when your opponent is just barely slow-playing enough that so that you can check Facebook between dials.

I wouldn't go over and rip a cell phone out of a hand, or even ask someone to put their phone down. However, I do think if your opponent says "please put your phone away" it's within their right.

A completely reasonable request provided they don't spend 30% of the game fiddling with dials. As long as you're not in turn delaying the game by not bringing your attention back then your opponent has no right to tell you to "focus".

So now TLT turret, can shot at ships that are in range 1, but are in arc for range2??? :/

You could also have 4 bombers with assault missiles shooting at a shuttle. Then in that context, you want to be able to keep firing. There's actually a lot of good reasons.

If you thought that The Inquisitor canceled Autothrusters before 4/2/2016 then you were wrong and have nothing to feel vindicated about.

Yeah, keep tellin' yourself that.

There are folks who didn't need it spelled out in the FAQ because we can read and reason.

And then there are the folks who thought Autothrusters was a special exceptional snowflake.

The FAQ is about 70% for the latter. Congratulations on needing remedial help.

Well, if you want to get technical, there were Errata changes to card text as well, not just FAQ. So clearly, the designers felt the original wording did not fully support your conclusions above.

Rawlings, are you seriously still arguing over whether autothrusters work or not when they specifically state that they do not trigger against the Inquisitor's primary?

So now TLT turret, can shot at ships that are in range 1, but are in arc for range2??? :/

No... Tlt does not use the arc.

So now TLT turret, can shot at ships that are in range 1, but are in arc for range2??? :/

No. The K-Wing has a built-in turret. And so that is what is in the example picture they are using. Range 1 turret shot (so 3 dice) at the Firespray out of arc, but the back of it's base is in range 2 arc, and so the Tactian kicks in. Nothing about TLT at range 1.