Empire power level is off the charts, period.

Empire variety...that in my opinion is different story.

p.s. I'm rebel player mostly , so 5 red blanks on your side here.

I feel like we have tons and tons of variety available. I think that it often looks like we don't because all of our ships look pretty similar. What're you running? Ties? Yup.

Even if we wanted low agility jousters, I honestly think that Lambda Shuttles will be perfectly fine in that role at 22pts once you can hook Bafflers up to them, and they're reasonably priced enough that they can go into a 4 ship list, no prob.

that and literally every SC here has been won by empire, including the above list. Before that, there were 3 palp ace champions. After that, one crackswarm champion.

It will be interesting too see which faction wins worlds this year. Will it be the Rebels again like the last several years?

Me I'm waiting for Imperial Veterans.

Well the Empire does have yorr.

No other faction has a pilot that can take stress away from friends up to range 2.

Except for the see to be released Kanan Jarrus - Rebel only that says:

Once per round, after a friendly ship at Range 1-2 executes a white maneuver, you may remove 1 stress token from that ship. Okay they need to do a white maneuver but unlike Yorr Kanan stress himself while removing the stress from other ships.

that and literally every SC here has been won by empire, including the above list. Before that, there were 3 palp ace champions. After that, one crackswarm champion.

It will be interesting too see which faction wins worlds this year. Will it be the Rebels again like the last several years?

Me I'm waiting for Imperial Veterans.

if heaver's playing, yes

if heaver's playing, yes

This is why rebels have been winning worlds far more than interfaction balance issues. I'm sure Paul Heaver could take a tournament with palp aces or Brobots if he enjoyed and played them as much as he seems to like rebels.

I think we should start a petition to make Paul Heaver win his next Worlds with an Imperial list, just so people will finally accept that Imperials have a lot of good options.

Barrel roll gone.

Bombs gone.

Stealth gone.

Rear arcs gone.

0 move forward gone.

3 agility gone.

Cheapest ships gone.

PWT gained.

Sloop gained but it's on the pos fo so I don't think it counts.

See the imbalance now?

We give more than the terrorists and get very little compensation for our generosity.

Barrel roll gone. - did we really think only the empire would roll all game?

Bombs gone. - did we really think only the empire would bomb all game?

Stealth gone. - you mean cloak? The sh*tty scum cloak isn't anywhere near the phantom's game, and they can't ACD

Rear arcs gone. - as if anyone really misses the firespray

0 move forward gone.

3 agility gone. - wave 2, man! also, not a loss. it's green dice

Cheapest ships gone.

everything on the list apart from cloak are things the game would've been absolutely garbage without

seriously, rebels/scum without rolls? without bombs?

as far as I'm concerned, Ties are still the supreme cheap ship. Z-95s being a smidgen more efficient doesn't mean **** if the generics can't bring crackshot

Barrel roll gone.

Bombs gone.

Stealth gone.

Rear arcs gone.

0 move forward gone.

3 agility gone.

Cheapest ships gone.

PWT gained.

Sloop gained but it's on the pos fo so I don't think it counts.

See the imbalance now?

We give more than the terrorists and get very little compensation for our generosity.

??????

I don't know what you think "balance" means, but you're wrong.

See, this is exact sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about Imperial player whining and complaining.

Barrel roll gone.

Bombs gone.

Stealth gone.

Rear arcs gone.

0 move forward gone.

3 agility gone.

Cheapest ships gone.

PWT gained.

Sloop gained but it's on the pos fo so I don't think it counts.

See the imbalance now?

We give more than the terrorists and get very little compensation for our generosity.

??????

I don't know what you think "balance" means, but you're wrong.

See, this is exact sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about Imperial player whining and complaining.

If we'd gained as much as we've lost that would be balanced, we didn't so the exchange is imbalanced, we had 7 of our tricks shared and only got 2 back that's just a bad trade off for empire.

Also FYI when you attack the person and not their argument it's not the other guy that comes off worst in people's eyes.

Barrel roll gone.

Bombs gone.

Stealth gone.

Rear arcs gone.

0 move forward gone.

3 agility gone.

Cheapest ships gone.

PWT gained.

Sloop gained but it's on the pos fo so I don't think it counts.

See the imbalance now?

We give more than the terrorists and get very little compensation for our generosity.

??????

I don't know what you think "balance" means, but you're wrong.

See, this is exact sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about Imperial player whining and complaining.

If we'd gained as much as we've lost that would be balanced, we didn't so the exchange is imbalanced, we had 7 of our tricks shared and only got 2 back that's just a bad trade off for empire.

Also FYI when you attack the person and not their argument it's not the other guy that comes off worst in people's eyes.

so what do you want? Regen? how about a ship that always fires at range 1, or a ship that always adds a crit? or the ability to change any die roll on the field? If we are being honest, the empire has many many many good toys out there. Do you want astromechs? what about illicit slots?

Well a small ship that could mount a turret would be a really good place to start.

Barrel roll gone.

Bombs gone.

Stealth gone.

Rear arcs gone.

0 move forward gone.

3 agility gone.

Cheapest ships gone.

PWT gained.

Sloop gained but it's on the pos fo so I don't think it counts.

See the imbalance now?

We give more than the terrorists and get very little compensation for our generosity.

??????

I don't know what you think "balance" means, but you're wrong.

See, this is exact sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about Imperial player whining and complaining.

If we'd gained as much as we've lost that would be balanced, we didn't so the exchange is imbalanced, we had 7 of our tricks shared and only got 2 back that's just a bad trade off for empire.

Also FYI when you attack the person and not their argument it's not the other guy that comes off worst in people's eyes.

none of these are imperial tricks, they're just general game stuff

except for cloaking, which the phantom still has the far superior version of

meanwhile, no one else has taken soontir nor vader

nor palpatine

nor Omega Leader and now the Inquisitor, both of whom couldn't give less of a **** about your autothrusters

nor crackshots on z-95s

also no cheap missile platforms like the bomber. sure you can go for one-shots on your z-95s, but you're not going to be ferrying dedicated ordnance like a bomber would

and that's all before imperial vets

Barrel roll gone.

Bombs gone.

Stealth gone.

Rear arcs gone.

0 move forward gone.

3 agility gone.

Cheapest ships gone.

PWT gained.

Sloop gained but it's on the pos fo so I don't think it counts.

See the imbalance now?

We give more than the terrorists and get very little compensation for our generosity.

??????

I don't know what you think "balance" means, but you're wrong.

See, this is exact sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about Imperial player whining and complaining.

If we'd gained as much as we've lost that would be balanced, we didn't so the exchange is imbalanced, we had 7 of our tricks shared and only got 2 back that's just a bad trade off for empire.

Also FYI when you attack the person and not their argument it's not the other guy that comes off worst in people's eyes.

Again, nearly everything you listed is a fundamental game mechanic, not a faction-specific trick.

Or do you want to see an equivalent list of Rebel "tricks" that were stolen by the Empire?

-- 3 dice attack: STOLEN TRICK!

-- 1 forward maneuver: STOLEN TRICK!

-- sloop: STOLEN TRICK!

-- non-unique 0 point mod: STOLEN TRICK!

Probably more out there, but I'm already bored of this game!

One faction getting something before another faction doesn't forever define that thing as "theirs"