So Adaptability is coming out which makes the EPT slot more essentail. Some pilots like nera Dantiels because of the EPT cost 2 more points while only being 1 more pilot skill than a dagger squadron however the pilot ability with its specific use makes it not worth 2 more points. After Adaptability pilots like Nera are now vindicated.

Now lets got to Kir Kanos which is 2 points more than a Royal Guard Squadron even though it has the same pilot skill. However without the EPT you never see kir Kanos played on a competitive level.

So now adaptability is out. How much should the EPT cost now. Also what woudl that mean for ships without the EPT. With more ships that now have generics with EPTs is that affecting the power creep?

What do you think the EPT slot is worth now? Should an EPT slot factor in for an increase of 1 point on further designed pilot cards?

should cost less than it already is, which is just zanily overpriced

first of all, adaptability isn't really super amazing. It's 0 points, so obviously it can't be super amazing, but really the effect is so situational and corner case that it doesn't change the value of the ept slot at all

really, all the overpriced PS 4s should have ept slots ; the Red Vet was just a step finally in the right direction

of course they previously released the +3 point Black Sun Ace for some baffling reason, as if the ept warranted overpricing an arguably slightly overpriced ship, but what can you do?

oh, and the imperial ace interceptors were designed at a point in time when the devs had a shoe lodged in their heads. Not only does Kir not have an EPT, but his ability is disgustingly limited . This also holds for Lorrir and Tetran, who has an ept but will never ever see competitive play.

One extra pilot skill will only rly matter much for ps 3-4 and 8-9.

Pilots like kir kanos is not played because he can't take ptl not because he dosen't get a free bump in ps

I've always agreed with the general sense FFG provides that an EPT slot is itself worth 1-2 points. R2-D6 is worth a point but takes your Astro slot, so another point or so feels fair.

Adaptability I feel doesn't devalue the slot itself whatsoever. Adaptability is free by virtue of paying for the slot in the cost of the pilot, as well as the opportunity cost of using Adaptability in lieu of something else (Predator et al).

I disagree that it's power creep, I feel more generics need EPT slots and we are moving in that direction with Wave VIII. Ever since the Royal Guard Interceptor I've quite favoured the EPT generic pilots, and hope to see more in the future.

Adaptability is like VI, should have never been printed.

EPT slots should come at a heavy price for 'aces' while costing almost nothing for guys with blank text boxes

Bump Kir Kanos to PS 7.... still sucks wont be played. You want PTL on him, the existence of adaptability does not make him any worse since he would never use it anyways.

The EPT slot is valuable because of what you can put in it, not for 1 more PS.

There are some cases i think Adaptability is strong and that is namely on PS 9 ships in fleets with PS 8 ships allowing you to bump above the enemy's ps 9 or bump down to have the same skill as your ps 8's Other then that the ept slot is far to valuable to be spent on +1ps.

The slot was already extremely valuable, adaptability does not change that. in the minds of some people on these forums adaptability pushes ships with an EPT slot up for some reason, however can someone point to me an instance where they were running a ship with a blank EPT slot? and if so how much more valuable would that ship be 1ps higher?

For example the OP's red squadron, if you put adaptabilty on it you are just bumping it to ps5 the same ps as blue ace, so for one more point i could get blue aces sweet ability. Red squadrons benefit is that it has the EPT slot to toss adaptability on it is to just toss that EPT slot in the garbage.

The Elite Talent slot should not have a constant point cost.

It should have a multiplicative modifier, adapted to many other variables.

Namely, how well can it ​use ​the daft things.

oh, and the imperial ace interceptors were designed at a point in time when the devs had a shoe lodged in their heads. Not only does Kir not have an EPT, but his ability is disgustingly limited . This also holds for Lorrir and Tetran, who has an ept but will never ever see competitive play.

Well, it's just PTL addiction, not dev shoe lodging.

His ability is just worse than most 2 point EPTs, that's all.

After all, unique pilot has an "in-built skill" that's somewhat a unique EPT, and like EPTs it's not always good and not always corresponds well with PS, Ship and meta.

oh, and the imperial ace interceptors were designed at a point in time when the devs had a shoe lodged in their heads. Not only does Kir not have an EPT, but his ability is disgustingly limited . This also holds for Lorrir and Tetran, who has an ept but will never ever see competitive play.

Well, it's just PTL addiction, not dev shoe lodging.

His ability is just worse than most 2 point EPTs, that's all.

After all, unique pilot has an "in-built skill" that's somewhat a unique EPT, and like EPTs it's not always good and not always corresponds well with PS, Ship and meta.

His ability is frankly useless without PTL, PTL addiction or no. Aces need to have an ability that's good enough to replace the elite slot if they don't have access to one. If they're not gonna give out the slots we need to have more Red Aces and fewer Graz the Hunters.

oh, and the imperial ace interceptors were designed at a point in time when the devs had a shoe lodged in their heads. Not only does Kir not have an EPT, but his ability is disgustingly limited . This also holds for Lorrir and Tetran, who has an ept but will never ever see competitive play.

Well, it's just PTL addiction, not dev shoe lodging.

His ability is just worse than most 2 point EPTs, that's all.

After all, unique pilot has an "in-built skill" that's somewhat a unique EPT, and like EPTs it's not always good and not always corresponds well with PS, Ship and meta.

His ability is frankly useless without PTL, PTL addiction or no. Aces need to have an ability that's good enough to replace the elite slot if they don't have access to one. If they're not gonna give out the slots we need to have more Red Aces and fewer Graz the Hunters.

Heh, I'd ask a simple question: how many medium-PS ships have you seen in the meta lately?

Answering it myself I can just name PS6 Brobots. the rest is either PS8+ acewing or PS2 lambdas and TLT platforms.

nothing else, no Red Aces Graz Hunters Guris or anything else.

The **** train Acewing has no breaks. With EPT or not, Kanos can only shed tears with his PS6

Here in Europe (Italy) we see lots of Dark Curse, Biggs, and to a lesser extent Guri and Black Sun Aces.

The rest is all ps10poethatcannotmatchsoontir. Even Luke and Wes Janson get VIed. For no reason since they get stomped anyway.

So again with the current selection of EPT upgrades. How valuable is the EPT. I guess the consensus is that Adaptability doesn't change the EPT slot that much.

I dunno. I think it's pretty great for generics with EPTs.

It's probably going to be my go-to upgrade for Black Squadron pilots.

Or it would be, if I was ever going to own any. But since they don't come in anything I'd own, and they aren't actually cool enough to buy off ebay, I probably never will.