The Doring-Kindersley book “Absolutely Everything You Need to Know”, subtitled “Journey to Star Wars: The Force Awakens” has pictures of Mustafarians on page 162 and 163, and since it was printed recently and has an official Disney logo on the back, I’m assuming that this is considered to be official Canon.

You raise here the better question. Where is the tatooine sourcebook? Because Javas belong there anyway and rightfully and this should have been out a long time ago.

It was. On pretty much every other SW RPG.

I'd honestly prefer to see something new than the same old things we've seen time and again in every incarnation of the RPG.

Well, it would be unreasonable to ask of an entire new group of rpg players not to have access to a book on the most iconic Star Wars planet because some of us older folk already saw it in older, no longer available, forms before.

I think Tattooine in particular is really overdone. It's become ubiquitous over the years. Considering the galaxy is so big, it feels wrong to endlessly revisit the same old stale locations.

Reading that WEG article made me - as a GM foremost - nostalgic for the time when the game designers could just make stuff up from whole cloth and invent things. So much of that struck a chord in me - when the game addressed things outside of the movies, developing the galaxy with new heroes, places and species, rather than retreading the ones we've already seen.

Anyone who wants to play in Tattooine can find reams of information about it from all manner of sources. I would prefer to see something new, especially in EoE which is supposed to be about the Fringe and the obscure places.

That's why I liked the F&D adventure more than it deserved - while I don't think anyone was really clamouring for giant-budgerigar-people, it was nice to see something new.

I'd just as soon they'd switch up the sourcebook make up overall. I'd like to see some of the planet fluff and gear scaled back, and I'd rather see the modular encounters expanded with the addition of named NPC personalities.

Gear, vehicles, ships, etc can all be added via the career books or even a new sort of supplement specific to that stuff.

I'd like to see more of a campaign theme book that lays out a sector or whatever, with the named NPCs in it, more modular encounters and what's going on in the local gossip to act as additional story threads.

I don't really care for canned adventures because invariably they're too on the rails for me, but a book that lays out a setting, and then populates that setting with personalities and provides in general terms the kind of things going on along with expanded numbers of modular encounters I think helps create a wider and rich gaming environment and that's what leads to stories.

No Jawa ?????

WTF...

If you have a technician book and a sector book like suns of fortune but for the Tatooine region...Do you put the Jawa in the Technician book or the region book. You put them in the region book. As they make more sense there. And by doing that you leave an slot in the technician book for something else. Another region book for edge is due sometime in the near future I am sure.

They'd also fit in a book for Traders and the other associated specs.

Seriously Ugnaught, Biths and Jawas are traditional Tech races and nope not a one in the Tech book what is wrong with you people you should be protesting this...

We are getting Gungans before Jawas this is sick and wrong.

There were several named Gungans in Episode I. How many named Jawas in any of the Episodes?

So we're going by creatures named now? Not how much cultural significance they have in the fanbase? I mean, if we're going to justify which ones should be in there based on which ones got names, I can think of a few other races that shouldn't be in the books yet. I think it's safe to say, that as far as fan connection, there is more Jawa love than Gungun love. Sure they never got a named guy, but they're way more iconic than Gunguns, other than as an icon of fan hate.

Well...

No Jawas were voiced by Brian Blessed.

Well...

No Jawas were voiced by Brian Blessed.

As much as I love the Illustrious BRIAN BLESSED!!! Not even he can elevate the Gungun race from fan hatred. Personally, I didn't really have much issue with them, and I found Jar Jar only mildly annoying. But that's just me.

No Jawa ?????

WTF...

If you have a technician book and a sector book like suns of fortune but for the Tatooine region...Do you put the Jawa in the Technician book or the region book. You put them in the region book. As they make more sense there. And by doing that you leave an slot in the technician book for something else. Another region book for edge is due sometime in the near future I am sure.

They'd also fit in a book for Traders and the other associated specs.

Seriously Ugnaught, Biths and Jawas are traditional Tech races and nope not a one in the Tech book what is wrong with you people you should be protesting this...

We are getting Gungans before Jawas this is sick and wrong.

There were several named Gungans in Episode I. How many named Jawas in any of the Episodes?

So we're going by creatures named now? Not how much cultural significance they have in the fanbase? I mean, if we're going to justify which ones should be in there based on which ones got names, I can think of a few other races that shouldn't be in the books yet. I think it's safe to say, that as far as fan connection, there is more Jawa love than Gungun love. Sure they never got a named guy, but they're way more iconic than Gunguns, other than as an icon of fan hate.

We already have the book for Traders and no Jawas. Because they make sense in the Tatooine region book more than they make sense anywhere else.

I think Tattooine in particular is really overdone. It's become ubiquitous over the years. Considering the galaxy is so big, it feels wrong to endlessly revisit the same old stale locations.

You know that ffg doesn't only release books for you right?

I think Tattooine in particular is really overdone. It's become ubiquitous over the years. Considering the galaxy is so big, it feels wrong to endlessly revisit the same old stale locations.

I agree. Between SWTOR rehashing every signature thing from the OT, and every other form of Star Wars stuff doing the same routine, I'm personally eager to see entirely new things. I think it's some kind of compulsion, of fans (some of them anyway), to always want to be reminded of the old movies, instead of anything new.

Or perhaps we just like tatooine and don't really think compulsion is a nice thing to say...

I could live with it being one of several planets, like in the F&D or AoR region books. Naboo made it into Nexus of Power because it was in the movies.

But a whole book about one place we know so much about?

No, not for me. There's so much to explore and revisiting the same places that appear in every RPG and video game feels so limiting.

I am sure it wouldn't be a tatooine book. Bit so much from tatooine is missing thusfar...

I'm happy with the way FFG have done things so far. Yeah, there's the old stuff like Hoth, but new stuff too that interests me.

They seem to be integrating little bits from every source, which is fine. I wouldn't touch a 'Rebels' sourcebook with a skiff barge pole, but I'm happy for them to include ships and gear and species from the cartoons.

Or perhaps we just like tatooine and don't really think compulsion is a nice thing to say...

Really? Compulsion is now a dirty word?

I'm really excited for Besalisks, mostly because I want to see how they handle those four limbs, because judging from what we see of Dex, they seem to be more-or-less omnidextrous

Or perhaps we just like tatooine and don't really think compulsion is a nice thing to say...

Really? Compulsion is now a dirty word?

But the way you used it, it was indeed a mean spirited thing to say.

Or perhaps we just like tatooine and don't really think compulsion is a nice thing to say...

Really? Compulsion is now a dirty word?

Not a "dirty word".

But the way you used it, it was indeed a mean spirited thing to say.

Well I'm sorry you don't like to hear it, but the bottom line is that the Star Wars franchise is adept at rehashing old stuff over and over. And the fans seem to constantly eat it up. Every band you see playing somewhere, oh look, it's that alien band from Mos Eisley cantina. Someone always has to say "you're my only hope". If there is a crime boss, it's a Hutt. If you're a smuggler, you have a wookie copilot, and you even have a princess love interest. Every planet of importance in the entire galaxy, happens to be one of the ones from the movies, and they shoehorn in some "ancient temple" or similar reason, to justify taking everyone back to Tatooine, or Hoth, or whatever. They are afraid to actually tread new ground, but the funny thing is, they apparently don't have to. Because the stuff keeps selling like hotcakes no matter how many times we've seen it. If that's not a compulsion, I don't know what is. And besides, I didn't specify you when I said it, I even stated it's only some fans. You're the one that included yourself in the description, not me.

The reactions on this thread really reinforce how much I don't envy the decision makers at FFG for this game. On the one hand they're Star Wars fans who want to include all the things Star Wars fans are familiar with. On the other, they're in the position to introduce new material into the universe, and they are creators, writers, and artists themselves, so it's an appealing draw.

But new material has to be vetted, and some fans are going to get upset that [insert example] isn't being covered instead. Old stuff is safe, but some are going to object because it's been covered before, and they want new things. Covering obscure material (like Mustafarians, and Besalisks and Dugs to a lesser degree) fits the needs of a creator , because it's a blank enough canvas they can add what they want, but fans are going to object because its either not new enough for one camp, or not familiar enough for the other.

I do think there is something of a vision for what is included, but of course not everybody is going to be of like mind. Now, as for Tatooine ...

One sourcebook covering one planet doesn't seem to fit with the way this game does things. They're more likely to include it as a part of something larger, either as a sourebook or and adventure.

I don't sweat it. Jawas will show up. Tatooine will show up. I have patience. I do agree with Maelora though given a preference I'd rather see new universe added over old ground covered. Ultimately I'd rather just have both which is pretty easy in something like an Outer Rim sourcebook.

Now, as for Tatooine ...

One sourcebook covering one planet doesn't seem to fit with the way this game does things. They're more likely to include it as a part of something larger, either as a sourebook or and adventure.

I would be fine with Tatooine being the site of an adventure, as was done with Bespin in Jewel of Yavin , and Jawas could certianly appear there.

Now, as for Tatooine ...

One sourcebook covering one planet doesn't seem to fit with the way this game does things. They're more likely to include it as a part of something larger, either as a sourebook or and adventure.

I would be fine with Tatooine being the site of an adventure, as was done with Bespin in Jewel of Yavin , and Jawas could certianly appear there.

Good idea. That would be a pretty good compromise. And you could add in Jawas as a playable species similar to the Sathari in Chronicles of the Gatekeeper.

An Arkanis sector book would take care of the problem, and could give us Jawas, Tuskens, and Geonosians. It would also give us Tatooine, Geonosis, the Imperial stronghold world of Arkanis, and a bunch of other worlds.

I think Tattooine in particular is really overdone. It's become ubiquitous over the years. Considering the galaxy is so big, it feels wrong to endlessly revisit the same old stale locations.

Reading that WEG article made me - as a GM foremost - nostalgic for the time when the game designers could just make stuff up from whole cloth and invent things. So much of that struck a chord in me - when the game addressed things outside of the movies, developing the galaxy with new heroes, places and species, rather than retreading the ones we've already seen.

Anyone who wants to play in Tattooine can find reams of information about it from all manner of sources. I would prefer to see something new, especially in EoE which is supposed to be about the Fringe and the obscure places.

That's why I liked the F&D adventure more than it deserved - while I don't think anyone was really clamouring for giant-budgerigar-people, it was nice to see something new.

Not everyone has a collection of back editions.

Not everyone is willing to take the time to convert things between relatively incompatible systems.

A good number of purchasers have little to no idea those other items exist; many more have access only by unlawful means (ie, pirate PDF)...

Plus, while i know you don't give a rats' ass about canon, Canon has changed drastically recently, so a new Tatooine sourcebook would more likely reflect the current state of Canon. (More correctly, not include some of the more egregious bits from legends.)

And then there's the issue of having a different approach than prior materials due to a different dev team.

And, for people like me, who generally stick to published races and ships due to the playtesting being far more robust than just about anything I or any other GM can do... an official book in the current edition is always preferable to fan-stuff on the net.

Seriously Ugnaught, Biths and Jawas are traditional Tech races and nope not a one in the Tech book what is wrong with you people you should be protesting this...

We are getting Gungans before Jawas this is sick and wrong.

There were several named Gungans in Episode I. How many named Jawas in any of the Episodes?

Do we get to count Ewoks & Droids? If so, ISTR one having a name.