I was wondering which Damage deck the forums would recommend to use if I was flying a 3 Blue & 1 TLT, Tactician, Prox mine, Warden in a store Championship.

I have played it 3 times now with the "New" damage deck, but was wondering if I should be using the "old" one.

Just fly the new as it's the one everyone should be using. Don't game the system by trying to pick the one that will give you an advantage.

Since you have a secondary weapon (TLT), I'd stick with the new deck.

I like the old one when I'm flying all generics, especially if I have a shoot to stress mechanic since old blinded pilot means I still deliver the stress.

You should stick with the damage deck you are using. You don't want to pull the crit that takes away your secondary weapon.

The old damage deck has a crit that could strip your TLT. Then again, it also has more crits that impact pilot abilities, iirc, which wouldn't bother you at all. And the new deck is all sorts of mean to everyone.

I'd honestly say you're probably best with the old deck. I mean, what are the chances you get that one crit...

Can anyone explain why you'd want to use the old damage deck? I won a SC against a guy who drew injured pilot (lose pilot ability and elite talent) crit on Soontir.

Both are legal, and you're entirely welcome to use whichever deck is least painful for your ships. Nobody at a tournament is likely to care.

With that list, I'm inclined to say the old is a little better, but it's really marginal - the new crits are a bit nastier, but there's a decent few in the old deck that a squad of mostly unmodified generics ignores entirely - and a decent few that are really, really bad for you.

I don't know why anyone who has the new deck would use the old one while flying aces, but I wasn't sure about the choice while flying generics.

Both are legal, and you're entirely welcome to use whichever deck is least painful for your ships. Nobody at a tournament is likely to care.

I would. I say it's gamey.

I don't know why anyone who has the new deck would use the old one while flying aces, but I wasn't sure about the choice while flying generics.

If you're flying a swarm of generics with no EPT nor Secondary weapons, use the old deck. Otherwise, new deck.

I'd use the new one, it is the one that has been rebalanced and it was what they were intending to be the standard. I wouldn't cheese the system by grabbing the old deck.

Both are legal, and you're entirely welcome to use whichever deck is least painful for your ships. Nobody at a tournament is likely to care.

I would. I say it's gamey.

It's a game, and moreso, a competitive tournament. Of course it's gamey, it's just as gamey as any other choice you make about squad building, asteroid choice and placement, etc etc etc.

I've got to be honest, this is a really janky thing to do. Official tourneys require the new deck (as of 1/1/16) and I remember reading somewhere (don't remember exactly where, but it was official FFG) that players should use the new deck if they have it for non-official stuff. Picking and choosing what deck you use based on which deck is better for your squad is walking a very fine line between douchey and downright cheating. To be honest, I threw out my old damage decks once the changeover hit in January.

Just...not cool.

Edit: my bad, didn't realize FFG backtracked on their previous stance. Still think it is overly cheesy and janky.

Just fly the new as it's the one everyone should be using. Don't game the system by trying to pick the one that will give you an advantage.

I'm super torn on this, I generally prefer the new damage deck and I think it's better balanced. After it was released Alex and Frank did several interviews and articles explaining it's merits and the thought that went into. Then the Internet cried out and ffg backed down. Choosing a damage deck based on your list is definitely gaming the system, but you can to some extent make that argument about rock placement

I've got to be honest, this is a really janky thing to do. Official tourneys require the new deck (as of 1/1/16) and I remember reading somewhere (don't remember exactly where, but it was official FFG) that players should use the new deck if they have it for non-official stuff. Picking and choosing what deck you use based on which deck is better for your squad is walking a very fine line between douchey and downright cheating. To be honest, I threw out my old damage decks once the changeover hit in January.

Just...not cool.

No, they don't require the new deck. They VERY briefly did, shortly after the new core set was published, but they very quickly changed that.

If I ever decided to go back to the 4BZ, I would love to use the old deck, not sure if the possible loss of the TLT is worth using the old over the new. I think that only using the new, because of a ruling that FFG back-tracked on, is actually putting yourself at a disadvantage, if other players are getting to choose.

FFG removed the requirement to use the New deck after the backlash for that ruling, so no one is required to use either deck, unless the tournament organizer requires it, and the only one I have seen do that is FFG at Worlds 2015, and they provided us with the new decks.

Both are legal, and you're entirely welcome to use whichever deck is least painful for your ships. Nobody at a tournament is likely to care.

I would. I say it's gamey.

Both are legal, and you're entirely welcome to use whichever deck is least painful for your ships. Nobody at a tournament is likely to care.

I would. I say it's gamey.

So is using debris instead of asteroids gamey? I don't like it but it's still a strategy decision FFG allows the player to choose what works best for them strategically.

You can claim it's on the same level as picking a debris field over the asteroid, but it's really not.

*shrug* they're both game components you get a choice over according to the rules of the game for tournaments, which have bonuses and penalties depending on your list. I see no particular difference.

You can claim they're not the same, but they really are.

See what I did there?

Also, X-Wing is a "game", so aren't all choices made before & during play "gamey"...

Not quiet. The point of allowing people to keep using the old decks was for people who didn't want to have to buy the new boxed set. They pitched a fit and are allowed to go to tournaments without having to buy the new boxed set.

To then see using the old deck as an option for your benefit isn't the same thing as picking a debris field over an asteroid. It might look like it to you, but the only reason the old deck is an option is because of people who whined about spending money on a game that costs money.

Nice to see that WAAC is alive and well in X-Wing...

I would recommend the new damage deck:

- Blinded pilot will go away even if no enemy is in arc (useful for your blues)

- TLT can be disabled by the old damage deck.

Why not?

Both are valid choices give to us by FFG

Both have different effects when you interact with them

Both change strategically how you play