Ghost and TAP unboxing

By thespaceinvader, in X-Wing

https://boardgamegeek.com/article/22065887#22065887via BOLS via BGG.

Baron of the Empire: 19 points, PS4, EP. Booo, I was hoping for 18, but I think my planned list of Vess plus Juking Barons still works, you just get one of the 3 Barons downgraded to a TIEf/o or a Black Crack.

Lothal Rebel 35 points PS3.

Thermal Detonators 3 points, drop on reveal, detonate after activation as for a normal activation bomb, but we don't know what they do yet.

So hype.

Laaameee....no size comparison on Ghost to existing mini and no thermal detonators :(

Sad rebel is sad.

Thanks for posting the new stuff in here, now I can wait for a reputable unboxer and not waste clicks on BoLlockS.

Edited by AugustineS

who cares if they don't tell us the goodness of the glorious Overcharged redneck Aggromech!

Baron of the Empire: 19 points, PS4, EP. Booo, I was hoping for 18

Still almost too cheap when compared to an A-wing. For the same points as a GSP you get a slightly better dial and barrel roll. With the title it becomes even better since it nullifies the lack of evade action, for one point there will never be any discussion on whether or not to take it, especially since it doesn't compete with any other card. I think it would have been better as a modification. I know you cannot compare ships in a vacuum, but the TAP and A-wing are far to similar in capabilities and points to be ignored. The TAP is essentially a souped up A-wing for more or less the same cost.

Also, why on earth did he not properly spoil the thermal detonator?

Baron of the Empire: 19 points, PS4, EP. Booo, I was hoping for 18

Still almost too cheap when compared to an A-wing. For the same points as a GSP you get a slightly better dial and barrel roll. With the title it becomes even better since it nullifies the lack of evade action, for one point there will never be any discussion on whether or not to take it, especially since it doesn't compete with any other card. I think it would have been better as a modification. I know you cannot compare ships in a vacuum, but the TAP and A-wing are far to similar in capabilities and points to be ignored. The TAP is essentially a souped up A-wing for more or less the same cost.

Also, why on earth did he not properly spoil the thermal detonator?

The TAP is what the A-Wing perhaps should have been, sure. They've clearly learned their lesson from the A-wing on pricing etc.

But it's worth noting that the low-PS TAPs will have more difficulty using the title than most ships would using just a plain evade action, because of lacking targets to lock early on. Not a huge problem, maybe, but certainly a problem.

Baron of the Empire: 19 points, PS4, EP. Booo, I was hoping for 18

Still almost too cheap when compared to an A-wing. For the same points as a GSP you get a slightly better dial and barrel roll. With the title it becomes even better since it nullifies the lack of evade action, for one point there will never be any discussion on whether or not to take it, especially since it doesn't compete with any other card. I think it would have been better as a modification. I know you cannot compare ships in a vacuum, but the TAP and A-wing are far to similar in capabilities and points to be ignored. The TAP is essentially a souped up A-wing for more or less the same cost.

Also, why on earth did he not properly spoil the thermal detonator?

But the A-Wing benefits from being able to combine two EPTs and the option of Chardaan Refit.

Baron of the Empire: 19 points, PS4, EP. Booo, I was hoping for 18

Still almost too cheap when compared to an A-wing. For the same points as a GSP you get a slightly better dial and barrel roll. With the title it becomes even better since it nullifies the lack of evade action, for one point there will never be any discussion on whether or not to take it, especially since it doesn't compete with any other card. I think it would have been better as a modification. I know you cannot compare ships in a vacuum, but the TAP and A-wing are far to similar in capabilities and points to be ignored. The TAP is essentially a souped up A-wing for more or less the same cost.

Also, why on earth did he not properly spoil the thermal detonator?

But the A-Wing benefits from being able to combine two EPTs and the option of Chardaan Refit.

Which makes up for it not having a built in double action for a point, native Barrel Roll, and you know, green 1 turns.

But the A-Wing benefits from being able to combine two EPTs and the option of Chardaan Refit.

Yeah, but that's not much of a benefit compared to the TAP. That native barrel roll is really nice and I can see juke being a favorite on this. TL + Juked Evade makes for nasty attacks.

I was really, really hoping it'd be 18, since there's really no reason why you wouldn't take the title on that ship. 21 points with Juke would have been really quite nice, but 22 points before anything like Proton Rockets or AT somewhat throws it into the shade of some of the /fo pilots.

Still, if nothing else you can chuck Adaptability or VI on them for a PS5/6 version, I guess.

I was really, really hoping it'd be 18, since there's really no reason why you wouldn't take the title on that ship. 21 points with Juke would have been really quite nice, but 22 points before anything like Proton Rockets or AT somewhat throws it into the shade of some of the /fo pilots.

Still, if nothing else you can chuck Adaptability or VI on them for a PS5/6 version, I guess.

Yeah, Juke/Title for 21 was what I was hoping for and is probably why they chose the price they did.

Still, Juke/Title/AT for 24 is very good value.

Maybe, but Zeta and Omega Leaders are 47 kitted out. Two of those are 48. I'm not sure which I'd rather have until I've playtested that pair of TAPs first, but for now, I'd err on the side of the /fo for that cost. Especially considering the PS2 with Prockets and chips is 20.

Edited by NakedDex

Baron of the Empire: 19 points, PS4, EP. Booo, I was hoping for 18

Still almost too cheap when compared to an A-wing. For the same points as a GSP you get a slightly better dial and barrel roll. With the title it becomes even better since it nullifies the lack of evade action, for one point there will never be any discussion on whether or not to take it, especially since it doesn't compete with any other card. I think it would have been better as a modification. I know you cannot compare ships in a vacuum, but the TAP and A-wing are far to similar in capabilities and points to be ignored. The TAP is essentially a souped up A-wing for more or less the same cost.

Also, why on earth did he not properly spoil the thermal detonator?

But the A-Wing benefits from being able to combine two EPTs and the option of Chardaan Refit.

Which makes up for it not having a built in double action for a point, native Barrel Roll, and you know, green 1 turns.

Well, that depends. It makes the GSP a very flexible ship. With almost every expansion, we get a new Elite upgrade, and combined with the upgrades that are already there, the combinations increase exponentially.

Maybe, but Zeta and Omega Leaders are 47 kitted out. Two of those are 48. I'm not sure which I'd rather have until I've playtested that pair of TAPs first, but for now, I'd err on the side of the /fo for that cost. Especially considering the PS2 with Prockets and chips is 20.

Depends what you're facing. In the age of TLTs, I'd FAR rather have some guys with Autothrusters, all else being equal.

Same here a pair of tlts is very common and can kill a fo a turn, at makes the tap alot more durable.

Edited by Hobojebus

These prices are pretty much exactly what was predicted as reasonable. Nothing to see here imho.

Baron, title, Autothrusters, Juke, Prockets x4.

Range 3 you take an evade and TL. Then perpetually focus and nuke something.

Maybe, but Zeta and Omega Leaders are 47 kitted out. Two of those are 48. I'm not sure which I'd rather have until I've playtested that pair of TAPs first, but for now, I'd err on the side of the /fo for that cost. Especially considering the PS2 with Prockets and chips is 20.

Depends what you're facing. In the age of TLTs, I'd FAR rather have some guys with Autothrusters, all else being equal.

Same here a pair of tlts is very common and can kill a fo a turn, at makes the tap alot more durable.

Fair points. I don't come across a great deal of TLT spam so much, so it didn't factor that in.

Baron, title, Autothrusters, Juke, Prockets x4.

Range 3 you take an evade and TL. Then perpetually focus and nuke something.

Baron/Title/Juke/AT is 24, Prockets is three, that's 27. Can't get four of them.

Drop AT for chips and it'd fit, but then you lose AT. Two of each, maybe?

Baron, title, Autothrusters, Juke, Prockets x4.

Range 3 you take an evade and TL. Then perpetually focus and nuke something.

Baron/Title/Juke/AT is 24, Prockets is three, that's 27. Can't get four of them.

>_> More sleep needed. Take off Autothrusters then.

Three Barons with v1, Juke, Autothrusters are 3 x 24

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JUST ENOUGH ROOM FOR AN x7 DELTA

(Thanks for the share too, the Lothal Rebel is very exciting for getting base numbers, but I'm super thrilled about the TAP + Imp Vets so that's where I jumped first)

Although it doesn't pertain to the spoiled cards, this unboxing also shows the dial inserts for the forthcoming deluxe dial kits.

They're rectangular and shorter than the numeric tombstones. I know some people were talking about rather using the numbers in the ship ID slot (e.g. if they're flying multiples of a single ship type it would help keep them distinct) but it appears that they're incompatible for this.

Going to have to wait for the X7 title to take Vessery with 3 Barons. Pity.

Going to have to wait for the X7 title to take Vessery with 3 Barons. Pity.

What's the plan there? I feel like three v1 Barons would be too expensive to run alongside TIE/D Vessery. Even if you give them all Adaptability and have all four ships at PS5, you've only got five points before Vessery's Cannon and any Mods.