So I was at a store tourney and in my second game it came about that I had a shuttle left and my opponent had a falcon left, the way the ships were he couldn't fly past me with out bumping back to where he was without flying off the board, and I was doing stops and 1 forwards which made me bump so we were in a constant stand still, this happened for about four turns, the guy I was playing was cool and he said I could keep doing at as I was winning but I said that was a d**k thing to do so I chose to fly past him and eventually I lost the game. was I right to do this, would anyone have kept the game at a stand still? happy to hear your comments.

Here we go again...

Sounds to me like you boxed in a full turret ship that's way easier to fly with your bulky shuttle. I call that an achievement and I'd have been satisfied winning off of it, but that's me.

You gotta do what's right for you.

If its legal, its legal. Beyond that, did it follow your definition of flying casual!?!

What's the rule for concession at that point? It sounds like it would have been a modified win for the OP, but there was no way for the Falcon to win the game without the OP essentially allowing it. A concession would then be scored as a full win, right? So there's no actual incentive for the Falcon player to concede, either?

I probably also would have accepted the modified win at that point.

Don't get too heated over this, tournaments aren't supposed to be hyper-cutthroat (if you want to have fun). Laugh at how ridicioulusly unlikely that situation is and move on.

If you wanted to win you did wrong. If you want to do what you think is right then only you can answer the question. If you're looking for everyone to agree with your decision I'm afraid you may be disappointed.

Sounds to me like you boxed in a full turret ship that's way easier to fly with your bulky shuttle. I call that an achievement and I'd have been satisfied winning off of it, but that's me.

You gotta do what's right for you.

What is with you Fly Casual guys? This isn't even denying a missed trigger, this is straight handing over a win to your opponent because winning would be a "**** move". Talk about a militant casual, tell you that blocking his ship is a "**** move".

I've gotten players salty before using legitimate tactics. Once I got yelled at for killing a Decimator and then point fortressing with an entire swarm. I said that that was what the turret players did, just run when they're up on points, and it just made my opponent angrier.

Victory is much sweeter when you defeat your opponent in spirit in addition to the actual game. If you do this when they're playing some obnoxious power list they might just stop playing it in the future. Hoping the quad TLT player in my area will stop after getting trounced by quint Autothruster Alpha.

Ugh. Another "fly casual" debate.

tbh it was the best game I had tht day, I was more concerned if it would b considered cheating as there was still a gd 25 mins on the clock, I still got 75pts from the match n it was a super awesome game that im happy with. but is it considered bad sportsmanship to constantly block play in that way

and I did manage to get chewie with lando crew down to 2 hull with a shuttle heh

I think the only real wrong move is flinging the falcon like a discus.

Other than that if you are uncertain enough in your move to need the validation of a group of strangers who barely agree on what day of the week it is then maybe you already know how you feel.

tbh it was the best game I had tht day, I was more concerned if it would b considered cheating as there was still a gd 25 mins on the clock, I still got 75pts from the match n it was a super awesome game that im happy with. but is it considered bad sportsmanship to constantly block play in that way

I don't think it's bad sportsmanship at all. Sounds like you outflew your opponent and had them trapped. In my opinion you deserved the win, But if you're happy with your decision, then that's the end of discussion. No amount of ranting by anybody will change anything.

...I'd have been satisfied winning off of it, but that's me.

You gotta do what's right for you.

Absolutely not.

Well, "do what's right for you" is just my two cents.

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tbh it was the best game I had tht day, I was more concerned if it would b considered cheating as there was still a gd 25 mins on the clock, I still got 75pts from the match n it was a super awesome game that im happy with. but is it considered bad sportsmanship to constantly block play in that way

I don't think it's bad sportsmanship at all. Sounds like you outflew your opponent and had them trapped. In my opinion you deserved the win, But if you're happy with your decision, then that's the end of discussion. No amount of ranting by anybody will change anything.

No, ranting can change something. The OP should not concern himself with honor. Losers like Bonzo Madrid fight with honor.

Sounds like a King vs King final result in chess. Both opponents could keep playing until someone backed themselves stupidly into a corner and left himself without a valid move when it was his turn, but no smart player would do such a thing, so it just ends. This is a perfectly valid game state. The difference is that in Xwing we have variable point values for the "kings" in this situation, so it's not a draw, its a modified win. That only makes it seem unfair or ******-y, but it's really not. One of the builds could have been chosen to have something that deals damage when locked in an overlap, to avoid a stalemate. But neither did.

In my opinion you where wrong to let him off the hook.
You had maneuvered him into a trap, was in a winning position and in a tournament game I would expect to play for a win.

So I was at a store tourney and in my second game it came about that I had a shuttle left and my opponthe guy I was playing was cool and he said I could keep doing at as I was winning but I said that was a d**k thing to do so I chose to fly past him and eventually I lost the game.

As I read the OP, he is the one who thought it wasn't sporting to keep blocking the other ship like that and the other guy was fine with it.

In which case the OP did what he thought was best and really that's the end of the discussion.

Sounds to me like you boxed in a full turret ship that's way easier to fly with your bulky shuttle. I call that an achievement and I'd have been satisfied winning off of it, but that's me.

You gotta do what's right for you.

Absolutely not. Do not be such a doormat next time OP. Do not let your opponent emotionally manipulate you into doing what he wants.

What is with you Fly Casual guys? This isn't even denying a missed trigger, this is straight handing over a win to your opponent because winning would be a "**** move". Talk about a militant casual, tell you that blocking his ship is a "**** move".

I've gotten players salty before using legitimate tactics. Once I got yelled at for killing a Decimator and then point fortressing with an entire swarm. I said that that was what the turret players did, just run when they're up on points, and it just made my opponent angrier.

Victory is much sweeter when you defeat your opponent in spirit in addition to the actual game. If you do this when they're playing some obnoxious power list they might just stop playing it in the future. Hoping the quad TLT player in my area will stop after getting trounced by quint Autothruster Alpha.

The OP notes that the Falcon player stated he was free to keep doing what he was doing, as the OP was winning. The OP, however, felt that winning that way would be a d*** move. It does not sound from his description that his opponent was doing any sort of emotional manipulation.

You could argue (convincingly in my opinion) that your opponent choosing not to fly off the board is also *&^% move.

Do whatever lets you sleep well at night. Know yourself well enough to decide whether losing the game will be more upsetting than forcing the game to time through constant bumpage.

No black and white answer here and that is fine. Games are always subject to this tension. Simulated combat of any kind will always create these uncomfortable situations. Here is a fascinating example of how far things like this can go in the world of competitive bridge.

It does not sound from his description that his opponent was doing any sort of emotional manipulation.

Nah man it was just sweet next level emotional militant casual pwt tlt boostwing manipulating!

/s

Sounds to me like you boxed in a full turret ship that's way easier to fly with your bulky shuttle. I call that an achievement and I'd have been satisfied winning off of it, but that's me.

You gotta do what's right for you.

Absolutely not. Do not be such a doormat next time OP. Do not let your opponent emotionally manipulate you into doing what he wants.

What is with you Fly Casual guys? This isn't even denying a missed trigger, this is straight handing over a win to your opponent because winning would be a "**** move". Talk about a militant casual, tell you that blocking his ship is a "**** move".

I've gotten players salty before using legitimate tactics. Once I got yelled at for killing a Decimator and then point fortressing with an entire swarm. I said that that was what the turret players did, just run when they're up on points, and it just made my opponent angrier.

Victory is much sweeter when you defeat your opponent in spirit in addition to the actual game. If you do this when they're playing some obnoxious power list they might just stop playing it in the future. Hoping the quad TLT player in my area will stop after getting trounced by quint Autothruster Alpha.

The OP notes that the Falcon player stated he was free to keep doing what he was doing, as the OP was winning. The OP, however, felt that winning that way would be a d*** move. It does not sound from his description that his opponent was doing any sort of emotional manipulation.

Ah, I missed the "I" before "said".

Yeah, in that case you have absolutely no reason to hand your opponent a win like that. You're not even being emotionally manipulated haha.

...I'd have been satisfied winning off of it, but that's me.

You gotta do what's right for you.

Absolutely not.

Well, "do what's right for you" is just my two cents.

ParaGoomba Slayer subscribes to the notion that you should "do what's right according to ParaGoomba Slayer", or you're doing it wrong.

It's a mentality that brings us endless hours of joy, here on the X-Wing forums. <3

This.

Why were you at the tournament? Was it to have fun? If you would feel bad blocking him out for 20min and it would ruin your enjoyment then why do it?

I have played games with people that only care about winning, in exclusion to there own enjoyment and it's sad, winning is fun in itself but if I have to have a boaring afternoon to do it I would rather not.

In your case eibon I would have done what you did because man would 20 of nothing been a real drag. However I would not hold it against someone who did as long as they were a good sport about it.

Long story short, you are there for a good time so do what's the most fun for you, I could even see getting great enjoyment out of blocking a ship like that if you and your opponent were jocking around while doing it.

Haha, bet you wished you had anti pursuit lasers on that shuttle.

I would have ground out the win with the bumps. Once the falcon is free, the shuttle is toast 99% of the time. Therefore, in a competitive environment what was your incentive to give your opponent the win? You were in the better position so why change it? Your tactic was no dirtier than blocking someone off the board, and people actively play for that without complaint.

Good to see that your opponent was graceful about it too. That probably means however he wouldn't have been so kind to you if the show was on the other foot!

I would have called the TO over and explained the situation.

"If the game were to end now, I would win. If my opponent sets any move that doesn't bump me, he will fly off the board. As long as I keep setting a one forward, we will continue to bump unless he decides to fly off the board. It is not in his best interest to concede and it's not in my best interest to do anything but a one forward. Instead of us needing to continue setting dials for the next 20 minutes can we just end the game now and use the current score?"