Spectators at XWing tourney finals?

By Plainsman, in X-Wing

I just realized that at most of the tournaments Ive been at, the finals had few to no spectators!

Spectators are current players that arent in the finals or interested individuals who we should see as future participants.

How about your tournaments?

Assuming most tournaments are similar, It leads to these questions:

Shouldn't participants and other interested individuals be around to se the top players duke it out?

What does this tell us about XWing tourneys?

What would help the spectator aspect?

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After 5+ hours of game play. I'm most likely going to settle for dinner than watch some games.

after 4 to 6 rounds of swiss and 2 to 3 hours before the finals start (quarter and semi finals you know) most people are ready to go home. They'd been there since before 10 am and the finals don't start until when?

Based on a similar topic in another thread. Perhaps if they finished earlier there would be more people around?

At Regionals you are going see the vast majority of final games going off between midnight and 2 am. I am surprised that the finalist are there at that point let alone spectators. And I would bet you would witness better games earlier in the day when brains are still working.

My leave passes aren't indefinite, and as someone said already; dinner.

:P

We seem to have about half stay behind and watch the finals.

I think 5 or 6 players stayed for the final I won against a 4 TLT list. 4 Swiss + top 4. Ended near 10pm.

Think they were interested to see if the 4 TLT would finally lose (I went 3-1 swiss, not facing the TLT list, he went 4-0)

Edited by Kalandros

I think 5 or 6 players stayed for the final I won against a 4 TLT list. 4 Swiss + top 4. Ended near 10pm.

Think they were interested to see if the 4 TLT would finally lose (I went 3-1 swiss, not facing the TLT list, he went 4-0)

And yet you did not tell us what you were flying.

I had around a dozen people watching my finals match. Even got a round of applause when I took it, the match ended around 11pm.

At Regionals you are going see the vast majority of final games going off between midnight and 2 am. I am surprised that the finalist are there at that point let alone spectators. And I would bet you would witness better games earlier in the day when brains are still working.

Not at the Mt. View, California regionals. The plan is for 6 or 7 rounds of Swiss, depending on attendance, on June 4th. The top 16 will then come back the next day, June 5th, to duke it out for the title.

For me it is the drive. I typically have to drive an hour or maybe two depending on the location and another 45 mins to sit and enjoy a meal. At that rate, I just need to pull chocks and start the drive home. I would love to stick around but if I'm not competing, I would like to get the drive over.

Some people don't care who's playing, if it isn't them.
Some people can't stay longer, as they've already cashed in every favour owed by their partner to be out playing with toy plastic space ships all day.
Some people drove 1+ hours just to get to the venue, so their day probably started 2 hours before the local players day did
Some people want to go sit down, and be with their family/friends/cat/etc.

It all depends. There's a multitude of reasons why people won't stay to watch more matches. Simply trying to blame how long the day has gone already is disingenuous.

The number of people who stay to watch the top cut players just tells us that people are people, and do people things in spite of what we want or expect them to do.

I was watching round 6 of worlds on YouTube. And wow. It was kaka sheet. Like bad. Really bad. Tons of mistakes and energy issues.

At Regionals you are going see the vast majority of final games going off between midnight and 2 am. I am surprised that the finalist are there at that point let alone spectators. And I would bet you would witness better games earlier in the day when brains are still working.

Not at the Mt. View, California regionals. The plan is for 6 or 7 rounds of Swiss, depending on attendance, on June 4th. The top 16 will then come back the next day, June 5th, to duke it out for the title.

Some sanity for a change. Had a lot of people saying that a two day tournament would never work I am glad they weren't correct.

At Regionals you are going see the vast majority of final games going off between midnight and 2 am. I am surprised that the finalist are there at that point let alone spectators. And I would bet you would witness better games earlier in the day when brains are still working.

Not at the Mt. View, California regionals. The plan is for 6 or 7 rounds of Swiss, depending on attendance, on June 4th. The top 16 will then come back the next day, June 5th, to duke it out for the title.

Edit: found the post, and am actually very sad about this.

Edited by Hujoe Bigs

At our 28-person store champ we had a dozen or so that stayed to the end.

At our local tournament, we had people stick around to watch the top four games, but by the time it had got round to the final the spectators had (understandably) decided to go and get food/go home.

At Regionals you are going see the vast majority of final games going off between midnight and 2 am.

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.... Cuts off so many from attending.

I just realized that at most of the tournaments Ive been at, the finals had few to no spectators!

Spectators are current players that arent in the finals or interested individuals who we should see as future participants.

How about your tournaments?

Assuming most tournaments are similar, It leads to these questions:

Shouldn't participants and other interested individuals be around to se the top players duke it out?

What does this tell us about XWing tourneys?

What would help the spectator aspect?

:

The simplest reason being you get a really poor view of what's going on when watching in person. If your far enough away as to not disrupt the players, you aren't seeing much of anything.

Edited by ScottieATF

At Regionals you are going see the vast majority of final games going off between midnight and 2 am.

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.... Cuts off so many from attending.

And yet is a direct result of the fact that so many people will be atrending. I mean you say it cuts off so many people from attending, but alot of Regionals will also be capping thier attendance, so is it really cutting off that many people if Regionals will be full anyway?

If it were a cut to the top 2, I would stick around and watch the final game. The stakes are high - One Must Fall! And it's an interesting experience to see high-caliber play in a competitive setting.


Compare that even to a top 4, which is... less exciting somehow. Keeping track of two games at once, and still not knowing who has a real shot at the top spot. On top of which, it will probably be another hour and a half until you even get to the final match, and you have a long way to drive home, and you're hungry. The only people I've ever seen stick around to the final round are those who are carpooling with one of the players.


For comparison: when I went to a small Armada tournament, we did 3 rounds of swiss then a top 2 match. Almost everyone who played stuck around to watch that game.

I'll be watching the Coruscant Invitational matches as much as possible while at Celebration London, but at normal events that I go to they hardly have a cut anyway. And if they do, no one I went with is in them and so we head home.

I find X-wing to be not that interesting as a spectator, at least when it's in person and not streaming so I can fiddle with other things on my PC during downtime or skip through a youtube video.

In my experience the specatators tend to be the people that carpooled with the winners ands did not make the cut themselves