i dont know if we were doing cloaking right,

1 if you try and do the de-cloak and you are going to hit some thing at the end 2 straight you can't do the de-cloak and just move as normal but cant attack that turn.

if 1 is right could you do a de-cloak as your action after you move?

2, you state you are going to de-cloak for the turn at the start of all the moves? ate exactly what point does the de-cloak move happen vs the regular moves? could you give me a example to go off of.

thank you in advance.

You make the decision about whether to decloak at the start of the activation phase, before any ship moves. If you attempt to decloak, you do it right away (again, before any other ship moves).

When you attempt to decloak, you declare a direction: straight, left, or right. Just like a boost or barrel roll, if you find there's no legal position for you in that direction, you "rewind" and either pick a different direction or decide not to decloak.

You can never decloak as an action. Cloaking is an action, but decloaking always occurs at the start of the activation phase.

(Hopefully someone else can chime in with an example--I have to go put a toddler to bed!)

thanks good way to explain it just needed some clarafaction

It can be confusing as the cloaking reference card has the old rules where you decloaced just befor you revealed your dial. This has been changed and the new rule can be found in the downloadable rules pdf (and they are as Vorpal Sword describes them).

i dont know if we were doing cloaking right,

1 if you try and do the de-cloak and you are going to hit some thing at the end 2 straight you can't do the de-cloak and just move as normal but cant attack that turn.

if 1 is right could you do a de-cloak as your action after you move?

2, you state you are going to de-cloak for the turn at the start of all the moves? ate exactly what point does the de-cloak move happen vs the regular moves? could you give me a example to go off of.

thank you in advance.

OK, so...

Juke/Intel Agent Whisper on one side (with initiative), VI/Intel Agent Whisper and Styigium/PTL Echo/Intel Agent on the other. And some other ships, but they're kind of irrelevant.

Assume all the Phantoms are cloaked as the round starts.

Everyone sets dials as normal.

In initiative order, the Intel Agents fire, and the player with initiative chooses a dial to look at within range two of Juke Whisper. Then both Intel Agents on the other side go off and get to look at a dial each. Any other 'at the start of activation' things trigger here, but Intel Agent is the biggest one.

Then, the players choose in *pilot skill* order whether they want to decloak, taking into account the information they gleaned from their Intel Agents. Any clashes would be resolved by the player with initiative decloaking first.

So, Echo first, decides to decloak, declares a direction and a template direction and attempts to decloak, say, boost left. Turns out that's blocked by an asteroid. Echo then chooses whether to try a different direction, or to stay cloaked. She chooses boost right, which is not blocked, and completes her decloak. Note that she can be blocked any number of times, but the first time she lays a template down in a legal position she must complete her decloak even if it's not quite what she was intending. If she does decloak, she can use Stygium Particle Accelerator to take a free evade action. She can potentially then Push the Limit and take a focus or barrel roll action in exchange for a stress. All of which would happen prior to the next decloak happening.

Then Juke Whisper does the same. Same procedure, she can choose whether to decloak, if she's blocked from doing it by ships or asteroids she can choose a different direction, or to stay cloaked.

Then VI Whisper gets the same choice.

THEN everyone reveals dials in order of increasing PS as normal. If Stygium Echo PTLed, and revealed a green, she can then clear her stress and take another action (but only one she's not yet taken this round).

Then everyone shoots in reverse PS order, unless they cloaked as their action in which case they can't.

I'm not certain the example actually helps to clarify matters, but there it is anyway.