Tales of the Mysterious Moving Dials and Other Stuff

By USCGrad90, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I play at a store about 1 hour away and make it down once or twice a month. The group there is very casual in style with a good number of newer players. It's funny sometimes when these guys say the dials "turned on me" and that the turn they set was actually a move 2 spaces away from what was revealed. I actually revealed a 3K in a tournament last night when I had intended a 4K. I lived with my mistake and laughed, knowing my dial had "turned on me."

I also had a guy reveal a dial showing between a 4 straight and 4K. He quickly adjusted it and said it was a 4K. I told him that in a more competitive situation, I would get to pick, but let him slide on it. Did not prevent me from winning the game, but the moral of the story is that players should be careful in selecting their maneuvers or be prepared for the consequences of the rules.

The FAQ does speak to the dial being set wrong, but in this case it's when it ends up set between two different maneuvers. So if you opponent claims it's the wrong one set, then you get to pick the right one out of the two that it's between. It's funny how this problem of "slippery dials" usually self-corrects itself very fast after.

If a player reveals a dial that is stuck between two different maneuvers
in such a way that it is impossible to determine which maneuver was
selected, the player’s opponent chooses which of those two maneuvers
that ship will perform.

The benefit of a slippery dial should be less wear on the dial.

The downside of a slipper dial is that you may need to exercise more caution when setting and revealing it to avoid accidentally shifting it.

If shifting does occur the rules already cover it. You perform what is shown. If it isn't clear the opponent chooses from what is shown. If it's illegal the opponent just chooses something that is legal.

The benefit of a slippery dial should be less wear on the dial.

The downside of a slipper dial is that you may need to exercise more caution when setting and revealing it to avoid accidentally shifting it.

If shifting does occur the rules already cover it. You perform what is shown. If it isn't clear the opponent chooses from what is shown. If it's illegal the opponent just chooses something that is legal.

Interesting thought: what if it's stuck between a legal and an illegal move? Does the opponent have to chose the legal one, or can they choose the illegal one and trigger the 'doing an illegal move' choice of anything legal on the dial?

What really stinks is i do have a few loose dials, and they do tend to turn sometimes between being set down and flipped ..

What really stinks is i do have a few loose dials, and they do tend to turn sometimes between being set down and flipped ..

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If shifting does occur the rules already cover it. You perform what is shown. If it isn't clear the opponent chooses from what is shown. If it's illegal the opponent just chooses something that is legal.

Interesting thought: what if it's stuck between a legal and an illegal move? Does the opponent have to chose the legal one, or can they choose the illegal one and trigger the 'doing an illegal move' choice of anything legal on the dial?

If stuck between a legal and illegal move the opponent still chooses which one of them the dial is "set" to.

After that it'll show an illegal maneuver and that same opponent will get to set the dial to any legal maneuver. Now a bleeding heart may just set it to what had been the legal maneuver option (or chosen it to start with) but it is not required nor should it be expected.

Look at it this way:

Dial between two possible maneuvers = illegal "reveal" so your opponent gets to choose which option makes that legal.

Dial reveals a red maneuver on a stressed ship = illegal maneuver so opponent gets to choose from any legal options.

guys just cut out some tape and put it between the **** dial. if they dont do it by next time, tell them you get to pick their move. cut that crap out.

I believe these guys are just sloppy in their dial setup and has nothing to do with an actual loose dial. My 3K/4K mistake was a mental error, which is why I thought it was funny at the time.

Our next tournament is the Store Championship, so believe me, I'm going to hold them to a worst case scenario if it happens.