Attack the idea, not the person holding it.

By Nyxen, in X-Wing

Well let's face it. Star Wars is for kids so of course Rebels would be too.

My favorite is when someone posts in the Rebels discussion about how they have an opinion that it's for kids and they get jumped all over like they offended someones wife, kids, and dog.

Well let's face it. Star Wars is for kids so of course Rebels would be too.

That's debatable, even with Lucas' early senility.

My favorite is when someone posts in the Rebels discussion about how they have an opinion that it's for kids and they get jumped all over like they offended someones wife, kids, and dog.

I avoided the thread for that very reason. Rebels IS for kids but why does it matter? If you're a grown-up who likes it, what's wrong with it? I'm 31 and I love Pokemon, always have & always will. Embrace your geekdom!

I avoid it because I'm tired of beating people with my ******* Greathammer +15. Also because Aerodactyl is still my favorite, and Rarity is best pony.

Also because I didn't look at SW as a kids franchise until Lucas started watering it down. Disneyverse is just a kick, one that's sending me back to 40k because the franchise is all but dead to me.

My favorite is when someone posts in the Rebels discussion about how they have an opinion that it's for kids and they get jumped all over like they offended someones wife, kids, and dog.

It doesn't take a lot of effort to see a personal attack in that.

Depending on your phrasing perhaps. But I honestly went in there, and said it felt kiddie to me, with other context, and I wasn't even meaning to be negative at all. I was looking for discussion on it. Yet, I was treated as if I came to personally attack a number of participants in that thread.

I enjoy the show for what it is- a piece of the Star Wars universe catered towards kids. And it does that very well. So well in fact that it can have adults watch it and enjoy themselves, myself included. But for some reason there are people who seem to be offended that the show is considered to be for children, no matter how obvious it is. It's gotten to the point that they have to point out every single mature theme that appears in each and every episode. But there is no need to do this.

Like has been mentioned, it's similar to enjoying Pokemon or the like as an adult. It's something you are so invested in, maybe because you grew up with it, or perhaps something else altogether, that you could care less that it's for children. You watch enough episodes of Pokemon or Yugioh, and I'm sure you will run into the same mature themes found in Star Wars Rebels.

Either way, I digress.

It's kind of impossible to separate some people from their ideas considering that their obsessions with some of these ideas is so pervasive as to come up in every single conversation on these boards.

Not attacking the person is how we ended up with Trump as the Republican frontrunner.

That said, there are some wrong ideas small enough to ignore - like anything X-Wing related. ALl other bad ideas and the people that breathed life to them should be stamped out of existence.

Not attacking the person is how we ended up with Trump as the Republican frontrunner.

That said, there are some wrong ideas small enough to ignore - like anything X-Wing related. ALl other bad ideas and the people that breathed life to them should be stamped out of existence.

So much that could be said about that but this is NOT the proper forum for that discussion.

It is disappointing when people get attack regardless who they are unless they are actually trying to BE the idea. I'm sure plenty of good people can come up with terrible ideas just like horrible people, who I think should just be ignored instead of attacked, can actually have good ideas. What's most disappointed is when someone has no ideas but is trying to make it seem like they do.

It's kind of impossible to separate some people from their ideas considering that their obsessions with some of these ideas is so pervasive as to come up in every single conversation on these boards.

You're talking about the gunboat nuts, right? Yeah, you totally are. Those loons.

Well let's face it. Star Wars is for kids so of course Rebels would be too.

Star Wars is not for kids. We don't count the prequels just like we don't count the Holiday Special.

Toy Story is not a kids movie.

Fantasia is not a kids movie.

There is a difference between something being intended to appeal to kids and that being its primary attribute, and something that appeals to kids and all other ages, AKA "quality stuff that just happens to also be appropriate for children."

The one episode of Rebels I've seen seemed more of the former category. I wouldn't call Toy Story a "kiddy" movie, but Rebels seems like it. I was playing X-Wing this Thursday and 2 guys were playing Armada and he was talking about how great Rebels was and how it was some of the best Star Wars content out there and then he said "I wish we'd see Trade Federation ships in Armada. I'm really surprised we haven't seen a Naboo fighter yet for X-Wing yet, you know?"

So yeah. Someone whose opinion I think is of value recently recommended that I watch the episode where Vader does the K-Turn. What episode is that? The episode I've seen was the one where the Clone Troopers were in a Clone AT-AT and it was fighting with Empire AT-AT's and it just seemed so kiddy. And at the end a Stormtrooper was running away flailing his arms around. Man, sure seems like Star Wars.

Man, somehow I needed to see that kid in a green t-shirt. The forums never let me down!

My favorite is when someone posts in the Rebels discussion about how they have an opinion that it's for kids and they get jumped all over like they offended someones wife, kids, and dog.

I avoided the thread for that very reason. Rebels IS for kids but why does it matter? If you're a grown-up who likes it, what's wrong with it? I'm 31 and I love Pokemon, always have & always will. Embrace your geekdom!

I got a 2ds so I could play the latest one :)

There's nothing wrong with liking rebels but alot of them can't accept when people don't, it's not as bad as bronies but even when you have a perfectly valid complaint they jump on you in a very vicious manner.

Well let's face it. Star Wars is for kids so of course Rebels would be too.

Star Wars is not for kids. We don't count the prequels just like we don't count the Holiday Special.

Toy Story is not a kids movie.

Fantasia is not a kids movie.

There is a difference between something being intended to appeal to kids and that being its primary attribute, and something that appeals to kids and all other ages, AKA "quality stuff that just happens to also be appropriate for children."

The one episode of Rebels I've seen seemed more of the former category. I wouldn't call Toy Story a "kiddy" movie, but Rebels seems like it. I was playing X-Wing this Thursday and 2 guys were playing Armada and he was talking about how great Rebels was and how it was some of the best Star Wars content out there and then he said "I wish we'd see Trade Federation ships in Armada. I'm really surprised we haven't seen a Naboo fighter yet for X-Wing yet, you know?"

So yeah. Someone whose opinion I think is of value recently recommended that I watch the episode where Vader does the K-Turn. What episode is that? The episode I've seen was the one where the Clone Troopers were in a Clone AT-AT and it was fighting with Empire AT-AT's and it just seemed so kiddy. And at the end a Stormtrooper was running away flailing his arms around. Man, sure seems like Star Wars.

I agree with your friend though, rebels is really good stuff. To me it feels like watching a group of people that roleplay very well, playing the ffg star wars rpg.

The episode your friend mentioned is called "Siege of Lothal" and is a mini movie (2 episodes in 1) to bridge seasons 1 and 2. It helps the impact of Vader coming in and tearing things up if you watch thru season 1 first but I feel like you could watch Siege of Lothal and form your opinion of whether you'd watch the show based off of it.

It's a great episode and reinforces the fact that Vader is one bad dude.

Edited by GroggyGolem

I say we take off and nuke the (web)site from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.

It's obscene how often I use this film quote in everyday conversation; and there are more and more young people out there now that give me looks more and more often... <shakes fist at sky, ties onion onto belt>

I enjoy the show for what it is- a piece of the Star Wars universe catered towards kids. And it does that very well. So well in fact that it can have adults watch it and enjoy themselves, myself included. But for some reason there are people who seem to be offended that the show is considered to be for children, no matter how obvious it is.

That's because some people haven't read enough CS Lewis:

To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.

It is easy to see why someone could, on the one hand, be proud of watching something actually intended for children and be at the same time offended by a remark in the vein of 'you are watching kiddie stuff'.

There are a lot of things that are clearly offensive, even if you are only stating a matter of fact.

Typically attacking the person is a great way to stop them from having ideas*

* there may be consequences to this action.