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Posted at 2016-03-10 17:03:19+00:00

I can't tell 100%, but their first square (for Elite version) looks like an "ile" which might make these guys "Mobile" too...which could make that very cool inregards to gameplay.

~D

What you're seeing is 'Hide'.

Darn. So do you know what the elite version is adding besides just the "Hide" from regular?

Thanks,

~D

Edited March 10, 2016 by HoodieDM

Posted at 2016-03-10 18:27:41+00:00

My guess? Focus, hide.

It'd work very well for their ability to use one shot to focus then command the focus'd one to shoot.

It also seems the elites have something that adds to their defense results, which is very nice. I think the elites might be my choice.

Posted at 2016-03-10 19:48:30+00:00

My guess? Focus, hide.

It'd work very well for their ability to use one shot to focus then command the focus'd one to shoot.

It also seems the elites have something that adds to their defense results, which is very nice. I think the elites might be my choice.

Whenever there's two conditions listed by one surge I've been applying both - that is the correct way, right?

Posted at 2016-03-10 20:31:14+00:00

Yes, you apply all effects that appear after the cost (surge in this case). The texts needs to explicitly have an "or" wording if you need to make a choice between two effects that are mutually exclusive.

Posted at 2016-03-10 22:47:10+00:00

Yeah the ISB agents are a two figure group that gets three attacks each round as long as you pull it off right.

I think it's four attacks.

It's definitely only three. There are two in the group and ordinarily each one can only attack once; the special action can let one of them order the other to attack a second time, but the special action explicitly says it can only be used once per group per round, so the other cannot also use that ability. Two normal + one bonus = three per round.

It's a pretty odd mechanic to prevent another figure from using the same ability and I think there could be a lot of problems with it because of it.

Although it's obviously against intent I guess you could argue if you had 2 groups then you could indeed use it twice for instance. Rather than using "per" they should have said "a group can use this ability no more than once per round" or some such.

Posted at 2016-03-10 22:52:49+00:00

(Guessing)

(surge): Stun, Hide

Posted at 2016-03-10 23:22:23+00:00

that could be cool, I'm a large supporter of imp focus though. Also looks like pierce 1, +2 acc.

Posted at 2016-03-10 23:22:37+00:00

My guess? Focus, hide.

It'd work very well for their ability to use one shot to focus then command the focus'd one to shoot.

It also seems the elites have something that adds to their defense results, which is very nice. I think the elites might be my choice.

Nice call by CheapCreep noticing the Pierce 1 addition to the Accuracy surge for the Elite Figures.

I agree with Fizz's goes for Stun, Hide. Focus + Hide wouldn't be great because you'd surge so much without enough abilities to use when rolling GGB+Hide Surge. There are only 3 sure abilities on the both the regular and elite.

Unless they do have an extra surge ability:

The Elite ISB Infiltrator seems to have an extra line of text that ends with "the defense results" as CheapCreep picked up on. But what if that was a surge ability instead of a defensive ability? Can we come up with a wording for this? It's not a passive bonus like Luke has because that would be listed at the top of the card with the surge abilities.

Edited March 10, 2016 by nickv2002

Posted at 2016-03-11 07:22:27+00:00

(Guessing)

(surge): Stun, Hide

Looking at Lando, the order would be Hide, Stun. Haven't checked it, but is it possible that surge abilities are ordered alphabetically? That would mean that Focus, Hide or Bleed, Hide are possible but not Stun,Hide.

Posted at 2016-03-11 14:08:04+00:00

(Guessing)

(surge): Stun, Hide

Looking at Lando, the order would be Hide, Stun. Haven't checked it, but is it possible that surge abilities are ordered alphabetically? That would mean that Focus, Hide or Bleed, Hide are possible but not Stun,Hide.

eWampa is 'Bleed,Stun', so possibly.

Posted at 2016-03-11 19:48:17+00:00

I doubt they would give you a Focus + Hide on the Elite ISBs. That would be insanely powerful, maybe if it was two different surge effects. My money is on Bleed and Hide.