Do you go for the bid or the firepower?

By Tailsgod, in X-Wing

Poe Dameron (31)
Adaptability (+1) (0)
R5-P9 (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Wedge Antilles (29)
Veteran Instincts (1)
BB-8 (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)
"Heragator" Syndulla (Attack Shuttle) (22)
Adaptability (+1) (0)
Dorsal Turret (3)
Navigator (3)

Total: 96
Now here's the question
Should I stick an engine upgrade or shield of Hera to give her extra boost power or survivability
change the adaptabilities to veteran instincts and bring the total up to 98 but give them each high chance of shooting first
or guarantee wedge shooting first by keeping the total at 96 and winning the initiative bid.

This is a list I hope to run in a tournament when the cards are all available but I'm split between these three choices
This brings up another point I have though and hence the title of the subject though

When making a list, especially for tournaments, is it important to go for the bid or for the extra fire power/defense?

Edited by Tailsgod

Initiative bids are very important for ships that count on them for an information advantage when maneuvering (like the TIE Interceptor), and for ships with important "after attacking" effects (like the Phantom). You don't have that here, so I wouldn't make an initiative bid.

Hera should absolutely get VI over Adaptability. Putting her at PS8 doesn't really help against the likes of Soontir, but PS9 absolutely does.

Poe also has an argument for VI, which puts him at 10. If anything, I'd consider putting Adaptability on Wedge instead of VI. That also puts him at PS10, which puts him at or above the same level as everyone but VI Han, Vader and Dengar.

That would put you at 97 points. You could then also consider changing the Navigator on Hera for Crewbacca, which is a huge boost to her durability.

EDIT: For that matter, I'd put R2-D2 on Poe over R5-P9, as R2 is a more reliable regen source during turns when Poe would be blocked, stressed, or wants to spend the focus token to ensure a solid roll.

Edited by PhantomFO

When making a list, especially for tournaments, is it important to go for the bid or for the extra fire power/defense?

In large tournaments, if I have a high PS list, the initiative bid is very important to me. I like to know going in that even if there aren't any matching PS, I can then choose the first rock placement which is critical for my planning.

Thanks guys

I think I'm gonna run the list with no adapt and all veteran instincts

I still want wedge to have an almost

Guaranteed shooting first

I'm almost tempted to switch Autothrusters with intergeated and change r5 to r2d2 for Poe just to give him that consistency and have the ps bid at 97 so that I still go before a Sith Lords list instead of still having that up in the air

I'm pretty sure neither Hera or any of the Ghost pilots can take an EPT. So, your problem may solve itself, no VI or adaptability on Hera.

I'm pretty sure neither Hera or any of the Ghost pilots can take an EPT. So, your problem may solve itself, no VI or adaptability on Hera.

Attack Shuttle Hera Does

I'm pretty sure neither Hera or any of the Ghost pilots can take an EPT. So, your problem may solve itself, no VI or adaptability on Hera.

Attack Shuttle Hera Does

That makes so much more sense now. Totally missed that you were using the shuttle. :)

I'm pretty sure neither Hera or any of the Ghost pilots can take an EPT. So, your problem may solve itself, no VI or adaptability on Hera.

Attack Shuttle Hera Does

That makes so much more sense now. Totally missed that you were using the shuttle. :)

Lol I couldn't fit the Ghost into this mess lol

You see, I go for a bunch of low pilot skill bomb droppers, and my opponent wasted a bunch of points on Veteran instincts and initiative bids.

Instead of Arc dodging, they have to plan every maneuver not knowing if I'm going to drop a bomb or not. Pilot skill and initiative bids is no substitute for good maneuver planning.

You see, I go for a bunch of low pilot skill bomb droppers, and my opponent wasted a bunch of points on Veteran instincts and initiative bids.

Instead of Arc dodging, they have to plan every maneuver not knowing if I'm going to drop a bomb or not. Pilot skill and initiative bids is no substitute for good maneuver planning.

Well thats why I have a high PS Hera lol she's would laugh at the bombers

But I do agree, lists are only half the game flying well is the other half. But I play enough with Wedge and Poe that I can fly them pretty well. Hera I haven't gotten my hands on yet