Star Viper, Firefly, Z. Comments?

By Andresbarbaroja, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Hello everyone,

I'm attending my first tournament on this game and I have no plans to reach the top, but at least i would like to avoid being last! I don't want to play the TLT Ys or Brobots (btw, i'm playing scums) so i took my two favorite ships and tried to get a decent-casual list.

I feel it is very brittle so i was wondering how to improve it and what do you think are the list's main weaknesses.

Any help will be well received and thanks in advance!

Here is the list:

Guri — Predator, Advanced Sensors, Inertial Dampeners, Stealth Device, Virago. Ship Total: 41

Boba Fett (Scum) — Veteran Instincts, K4 Security Droid, Glitterstim. Ship Total: 45

Binayre Pirate — Dead Man's Switch. Ship Total: 14

Welcome to the forum, and good luck at your first tournament.

I have an older post somewhere around here where I pretty much theory crafted that Boba and Xizor could work well together, though I never flew it myself (so take this with a few dozen grains of salt).

Here's a link where I discussed the merits and the basic strategy:

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/199025-boba-and-xizor/

If you're looking to fly a Firespray/Starviper, I think that Boba Fett and Xizor have some real potential. Hope this is helpful.

Hello everyone,

I'm attending my first tournament on this game and I have no plans to reach the top, but at least i would like to avoid being last! I don't want to play the TLT Ys or Brobots (btw, i'm playing scums) so i took my two favorite ships and tried to get a decent-casual list.

I feel it is very brittle so i was wondering how to improve it and what do you think are the list's main weaknesses.

Any help will be well received and thanks in advance!

Here is the list:

Guri — Predator, Advanced Sensors, Inertial Dampeners, Stealth Device, Virago. Ship Total: 41

Boba Fett (Scum) — Veteran Instincts, K4 Security Droid, Glitterstim. Ship Total: 45

Binayre Pirate — Dead Man's Switch. Ship Total: 14

I'd go Autothrusters instead of Stealth Device on Guri. SD gets shot off way too quickly, especially with all the TLTs flying around now. You'll get more mileage with ATs. With the point saved you can get Sensor Jammer for even more durability. I don't think Advanced Sensors is really all that necessary on Guri, especially with Predator.

On Boba I'd go for Recon Specialist instead of K4. He gets re-rolls at range 1 anyway, and Rec Spec is pretty nice on a Firespray to help them live a bit longer. I would like to fit in engine Upgrade on Fett, but you'd have to drop Glitter and the Dead man's switch.

Which brings me to the Pirate. Dead Man's switch just isn't very good. It only goes off once and has a chance to backfire on you. I've actually hurt myself several times with it (I have since abandoned it altogether). Feedback Array is so much better on a Pirate. It creates a no-fly zone around the Pirate for the likes of Soontir Fel and Whisper. Even if you only get 1 damage out of the Pirate, if its against Soontir, its done its job. It makes getting blocked by the Z even worse.

I would like to fit in engine Upgrade on Fett, but you'd have to drop Glitter and the Dead man's switch.

EU on PS10 Boba is a good impulse. Scrap Inertial Damps, Dead Man's switch and move Guri's SD to autothrusters to fit it in, if you decide to roll with this list. That's how I'd do it.

Ok, I'm liking the idea of the Prince + Boba so I think I might fly this

Prince Xizor — Predator, Advanced Sensors, Autothrusters, Virago. Ship Total: 40

Boba Fett (Scum) — Veteran Instincts, Recon Specialist, Glitterstim, Hull Upgrade. Ship Total: 48

Binayre Pirate — Ship Total: 12

Thanks for the input! I'll see if the theory crafted for the Boba/Xizor works ;)

Edit: could not get the EU so went with Glitterstim + extra life for Boba or Xizor

Edited by Andresbarbaroja

Ok, I'm liking the idea of the Prince + Boba so I think I might fly this

Prince Xizor — Predator, Advanced Sensors, Autothrusters, Virago. Ship Total: 40

Boba Fett (Scum) — Veteran Instincts, Recon Specialist, Glitterstim, Hull Upgrade. Ship Total: 48

Binayre Pirate — Ship Total: 12

Thanks for the input! I'll see if the theory crafted for the Boba/Xizor works ;)

Edit: could not get the EU so went with Glitterstim + extra life for Boba or Xizor

I was actually interested in CBMarkham's list, above, and so I've used it a few times.

However, I prefer push the limit + advanced sensors instead of predator (I'm not recommending it though---its not easy to use, whereas predator is much easier).

I think its decent. Its not forgiving of mistakes though, so you do have to fly carefully. The pirate dies quick, but that's okay. He's basically ablative wounds for the prince. Once you get the opponent focussing on Boba, Xizor can get some work done by working his way in behind.

I was actually interested in CBMarkham's list, above, and so I've used it a few times.

Thanks Blade. I appreciate you doing the actual work. Gives me more time for baseless speculation that I can post on the forums as actual insight. thumbs-up.gif

I was actually interested in CBMarkham's list, above, and so I've used it a few times.

Thanks Blade. I appreciate you doing the actual work. Gives me more time for baseless speculation that I can post on the forums as actual insight. thumbs-up.gif

Its the kind of work I don't mind doing :)

Besides, I needed an excuse to fly Boba Fett, and I love star vipers.

I wouldn't call it top tier though. For example, replacing Xizor + Pirate with either an IG88 or YV-666 might actually be superior...

I wouldn't call it top tier though. For example, replacing Xizor + Pirate with either an IG88 or YV-666 might actually be superior...

Very probably. HLC or a second tactician are both gud. Real gud.

That said, I blame you for trying to run PtL over Predator. How you gonna do super funky S-Loops like dat?!

I wouldn't call it top tier though. For example, replacing Xizor + Pirate with either an IG88 or YV-666 might actually be superior...

Very probably. HLC or a second tactician are both gud. Real gud.

That said, I blame you for trying to run PtL over Predator. How you gonna do super funky S-Loops like dat?!

Push the limit rarely affects s-loops :)

I use push through advanced sensors with a green on the dial like 90% of the time. Only if I see a really really good reason to end the turn stressed (like boost + BR for a key arc-dodge/block, or TL + focus to end a damaged ship, or some such)

Edited by blade_mercurial

Well, I'll have some feedback tomorrow!

Ok, everytime I see the title of this thread it bugs the heck out of me. So I'm going to go ahead and say it...

The Firefly-class ship is a Mid-Bulk Transport used in the tv show Firefly and movie Serenity.

The Firespray-31 is a patrol and attack craft used in Star Wars.

Edited by Droidlover