As some of you may know I created some quick reference cards a while back and posted them on the bgg. Link I have wanted to include all the flowcharts from the FAQ but was reluctant as I understand those charts are from the old CCG model. At least according to a post by ktom I seen at one point on these forums. I have decided to go forth and post this 2nd set on the geek. It will of course take a day or so for it show up.

With that in mind however I am reaching out to anyone (ktom specifically if you are interested) who may be able to provide me more complete/accurate/up to date info on all the charts from the FAQ. I would like to provide the community with the most accurate charts possible but I do not have the experience and knowledge with this game for me to do that.

Finally. If there is any other info that people would like to see in a quick ref. card please let me know and I will see about adding that. Thanks.

The flowcharts in the LCG FAQ are the most complete/accurate/up to date charts officially available. They work just fine for the basic structure of the game. It is important, though, to post not only the flowcharts for the individual phases, but the basic structure charts from the previous page that explain the general steps in Player Action and Framework Action windows.

What they don't do, and what people often seem to want them to do, is spell out a whole bunch of contingencies. That's the challenge of a game with such an open architecture and so many variables. For example, people often want to know where "Deadly" happens in the flowchart, even though they know it's a passive effect activated by the resolution of a challenge (which is enough information to answer the question). Or they want to see a specific diagram for cards coming out of Shadows, or that includes the Epic phase.

So the flowcharts from the FAQ are accurate and complete - as far as it goes and assuming no complex card interactions. It depends on how many contingencies you want mapped out and how strong your grasp of the game's basic timing and definitions are. It is a lot to learn.

I suppose I could try to draw out a much larger "Flowchart including common card interactions." But before I tackle that, how about giving me some of the timing/flowchart wish-list issues that come up frequently for people? I'll start the list:

1. Timing of Deadly

2. Bringing cards out of Shadows

3. The Epic phase

4. Who gets first action and first Response?

Hi ktom,

Thank you for the quick reply. The quick reference cards do in fact include the player action chart, the framework chart and the 7 charts of the phases all redone in the same style as the prior general cards I posted. I can't think of anything specific to add off the top of my head right now but I will give it some thought. Hopefullly other people will post their thoughts as well in what other trouble areas could be 'mapped' out.

Anyone interested, the quick ref cards for the flow charts are now up on the geek.

I had to dig for it, but I had asked at one time about some errors in the flow charts: www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp

I looked at your flowchart cards and it looks yours are correct (did they get around to correcting the charts in the offical FAQ?).

They look very nice. I'm curious, what program(s) did you use and did you have any tricks you used to grab the texture and frame that FFG uses on the box to make it the outside border for each card?

The charts in the official FAQ are still incorrect with regards to the roman numerals.

The process I used was:

I opened a single page from the official rules pdf in Illustrator. Removed all images and text from the page and saved it again. (Opening in Illustrator allows you to directly select the assest's that were used in the .pdf so you can delete or extract them). I then opened that file in Photoshop and created two more .psd files. 1st file I deleted the parchment colored background leaving just the frame. The frame is just a tad larger in length and width than the standard thrones card so it creates the bleed. That way when you cut them to size you don't have a white border around it. The 2nd file I did the opposite deleting the frame and leaving the parchment color background. I then enlarged that just a very small percentage so it goes just under the frame with no openings showing.

I also opened up most of the pages from the rules in Illustrator and extracted all the various images and saved them as their own files.

Finally in InDesign I pulled in all the assests with the frame as the top layer, the background as the bottom layer (the frame and background on master pages) and the images are placed and fitted in a middle layer.

Wow, that was a lot of work. I agree with LetsGoRed -- they look very nice. Thank you!