My 1st store championship win.

By timmyz33, in X-Wing Battle Reports

This was my 1st store championship I was finally able to attend and play in, at Goblin Games. it was a nice store and plenty of room, i had no space issue during the day, there were 31 players when we started.

My Build: K-Wing Miranda - TLT, Tactician

Y-Wing Gold squad - TLT, R3-A2, Title

Y-Wing Gold squad - TLT, R2

Z-95 Bandit

100pts.

RD1 vs Vader - predator, EU, Title, ATC

Tempest squad - title, Accuracy corrector (x3)

Unfortunately rd 1 i was paired up against a fellow friend that had road up with me for the event, and he was coming in hot of a tournament win locally with this list. it is a very fun list and very defensive and always hits(always). The set up i think was a huge part in this match, I was set up on my left corner and his 3 tempest were opposit corner and vader was alone directly across from me. so Vader being the biggest threat to my build, I charged in fast and slammed with miranda first movement, which cost me vader went straight 5, TL,boost and fired away at miranda taking 3 shields. the next round the rest of my squad was able to catch up and join in on vader while the other 3 advanced were coming in fast. after the 2nd round of firing it was looking grim, miranda took a solid range 1 shot from vader taking the last shields and dealing in 2 crits, lucky for me the stress bot was able to load vader with 2 stress token, and I think i did manage to strip vader of shields, At this point I have to save miranda so she start regening shields back and was very lucky in some arc dodging from the other 3 advanced, who proceeded to obliterate my stressbot. while miranda was able to get some lucky shots of and was able to take down vader(i took vader out with the 1st TLT shot from miranda but i had to take the 2nd shot to finish the attack so it made sense to drop a die and regen a shield. and for the next few round i managed to avoid arcs with miranda and my last y wing while my z95 went headfirst into the action and was surviving. i finished off 2 other advance, and then finally had him dow to 1 advance and 3 of mine still on the table, i got miranda in range 1 and took a TL and dropped a shield for the 4 dice attack and took the tie to 1 hull, he was able to finish off my z-95, and the last tlt shot finished him.

win 100-38

rd 2 Han - PTL,Title, EU, C3PO, Gunner

Poe- PTL, BB-8, Autothrusters

This was a build I knew I would see but felt good going up against it with the damage output & stress from my build. Also see Poe t ps8 was helpful, I won initiative and gave it away so i move last and can slam miranda away from poe if need be. I again set up in my left corner and he placed directly across from me, I moved my 3 small ships up 3 & 4 speed,and kept miranda back a little for the first movement, and han came full speed and boosted, and poe came fast too, but was just out of range of my z-95 however han was in range, and first shot landed just 1 hit, which i evaded and gunner kicked in and landed 3 hits, and i was able to focus out and evade all. z 95 land 2 hits on han and he only blocked 1. this next move i got all my ships at range and arcs of han, he at this point focused both ships on the stress bot, and w was able to deal damage and 2 stress token with tactician on han from miranda and damage from the z 95 and regular TLT, and the stressbot with 2 stress already on Han , took shots and dealt 2 stress to poe and was able to deal some damage, the next couple of round i just chewed into han and poe when i had to since he couldnt regen i wasnt too worried about him running off, and stress bot became blocker on han, but miranda was taking some shots, it cam down to miranda and han at range 1 of eachother, hand land 4 big hits to miranda and she had 1 hull left and i had a TL focus range 1, and it was just enough to take out han, but then poe finished off miranda, poe had 2 hull left and i had a healthy TLT y wing, and that same round both TLT hit and match over.

win 100-75

rd3 Poe- , R2-D2,auto (do not remember his ept)

Mirand- TLT, extra munitions, concusion, proton

Tala z-95 ( i am missing some of his upgrades i forgot too write the full list down.

Facing this list had me startled a bit thats alot of munitions on miranda again my not so defensive ships, and being they were rand 2-3 missles, my priority was range 1 and out of mirandas arc as fast as posible, so i charged in fast, and the second round of movement my miranda was in the lead in range of poe only, his other 2 ships are coming in slow, whe exchanged shots and both evaded. the next round i got miranda out or his miradas arc but in mine at range 2, so tactician loaded her with stress and all my ships dumped on the damage all hitting, and stressbot didnt need to apply more stress, i only lost a couple shields and a couple ships while his miranda was all the way down to 1 hull. He was kinda surprised/devestated i guess that i went after miranda so fast the way i did over poe, the next round of firing i finished off his miranda with mine, and then my other 3 ships focused on poe and vaporized poe in a single round of firing, i lost no ships, at this time my opponent called it and pulled off his last z-95, only 25 minutes into the round.

win 100-0

round 4 poe-VI, R5-P9, auto

blue b-wing, ion cannon

gold squad- TLT

bandit z-95 (again I am missing something and cant recall)

This build I knew would give me some problems if i wasnt able to drop a ship fast, a regen Poe is usually my first target since he is so powerful in the endgame especially if i lack firepower. but on the 2nd round of movement i caught a break, his b wing and poe had range on my lead z-95, both shot and i lost 1 shield, however all 4 of my ships had shots on the b wing, and my dice came alive and i took the bwing down that first exchanged. the next round all mine were again able tio focus fire down on poe, and was able to take him down that round, the next couple round shots were split up and axchanged, i wasnt able to focus all my ships down, but i did lose a z-95 before i finished off his last 2 ships.

win 100-12

rd 5. Poe- VI, R5-P9

Corran- VI, R2-D2, FCS

Prototype a wing- Proton rockets, Auto

This was the last match before cut to top 4, we were the last 2 undefeated, and as long as I didnt go down 100-0 i would make the cut, so my goal was to get at least 1 ship gone. and i had just was his last match against the Heaver worlds build and it was a good one, great flying and smart manuevers, I knew this would be rough 1, i have played a couple variations or this build and came out on top prior but this i knew would be rough. i set up in the middle of the mat this time and his set up in his rh corner. i came out with 3 banks towards him wiht all my ships, and we were able to start firing the 2nd round and by this time i had taken miranda off the the right and then back up to get ships in her arc for tactician. The first exhange went really well for me i focused down on poe giving him both stress from my y wing and got him down to 2 hull. the next movement i blocked my y wings with my z-95 to keep them back and arc on poe, who was actionless thanks to the stress, poe hit my z so he was in prime range and corran kinda booked it out of the fight for the time being, he had double tapped miranda the round prior and stripped her to hull. poe range 1 of the stress bot only land 2 hits and he had no focus, and i was able to finish poe off, and started chipping at his a wing, i didnt want to waste the shots on corran who would easily regen them. i need to wait until i could focus fiire on him. the next few round where spent turning around and back into position to go after corran, and i was able to get him back in arc of the stress bot and laid on the stress, adn some big damage from miranda and tlt. but again corran was able to double tap and this time took out miranda. I was able to finally finish corran off the next round. i had a fully health z, a banged up stress bot who now is way out of the fight and trying to chase an a wing, and my regular tlt y wing had taken some damage earlier from corran and finally fell to proton from the a wing. so end game i have z and stress bot chasing and jousting with an a wing with 2 hull left. i somehow managed to get the stressbot behind the a wing and just pile the stress tokens on, hoping to limit maneuvers and no actions, and also no shots coming back at me, i was throwing die after die at this a wing range 3, i had gotten a good hit with my z and took it down to 1 hull. I had 3 shots in a row at the A where i landed all 3 hits from tlt, and he was able to roll 2 evade and autothrust out of it, but finally i manage to hit and deal the last damage.

win 100-62

rd6 first round of top 4 keyan- FCS, PTL,

Corran-Marksmanship, FCS, R2-D2

prototype- proton, auto

by this time, we had now been playing for about 7 hours and havent taken a break, we decided to keep playing so wecan try and make it go a little faster, but in the end i was tired and hungry and my luck had finally given out, keyan ate my stress like nothing and withint the first 2 rounds of firing i had lost my stressbot, and miranda fell to a double tap from keyan and some nasty crits. but i did drop keyan right after, but now i am severely out gunned and exhausted and poor flying again great flying, I finally fell 34-100. and the top 4 we were doing round robing instead of elimination which i wasnt aware of, and after the lost i was still in 1st place with pts & MOV, and the final table would be a rematch against my previous opponent. We had a meeting and decided that was enough and no need for a final round we did not want to play it out again, for another hour, especially after just playing eachother, and seeing how each of us had flown that kinda element of surprise build factor is now gone, so we called it and i claimed the Championship.

So you colluded with your opponent and fixed the final game by not playing it. Personally, you and your opponent should lose the bye and it be awarded to third place.

So you colluded with your opponent and fixed the final game by not playing it. Personally, you and your opponent should lose the bye and it be awarded to third place.

No all 4 players where involved, it wasnt set up as elimination rounds, they kept it standard format and games went by seed, the final round was never played by anyone, it ended up just the 1 round after the cut, we talked about it and like i said it was not getting very late and 2 of the 4 had 2+ hour drives back home, the gentleman who beat me the that last match and the judges made the decision to call it.

So you colluded with your opponent and fixed the final game by not playing it. Personally, you and your opponent should lose the bye and it be awarded to third place.

No all 4 players where involved, it wasnt set up as elimination rounds, they kept it standard format and games went by seed, the final round was never played by anyone, it ended up just the 1 round after the cut, we talked about it and like i said it was not getting very late and 2 of the 4 had 2+ hour drives back home, the gentleman who beat me the that last match and the judges made the decision to call it.

So, the TO decided to do his own thing and not follow standard protocol by having a top 4 cut and elimination bracket - ok, different, but technically not a violation. You still admit that the final round wasn't played, and as such you admit to breaking the rules. By talking about "Ending" the tournament early, by INTENTIONALLY not playing any planned games, cut and elimination or round robin like you did, is WRONG. You admit to colluding, with our without the judge/to approval or not, it was wrong. Since you now admit that it was the entire top 4 plus the judge, well there needs to be severe consequences. 5th place, who you admit wasn't a part of your breaking the rules, should be declared the winner, Your top 4 should be punished under the harshest penalties, and all your prizes forfeit. I have submitted this post to FFG Organized Play for breaking their tournament rules under their suspension policy.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/spolicy/

That guy above me is pretty hardcore.

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Second place conceded to first place so he could go home. What benefit does he gain from giving up first place?

'Collusion among players to manipulate scoring is expressly forbidden.'

I'm assuming you are referencing this section of tournament rules. In this case, you are arguing that 2, who had a lower MOV, is not allowed to concede to 1, who had the highest MOV in the tournament. This is essentially what happened. 2 likely would have won, as he had just beat 1. 2 wanted to go home so he conceded to 1. Top 4 were all awarded top 4 prizes. Highest tournament points was tied and highest MOV took first. Top 4 would not have changed in this circumstance.

This is how ridiculous you sound:

TLT shot on my Falcon with 1 hull left. TLT drops 3 hits. I don't roll defense dice and accept my defeat. My opponent and I should be disqualified, per your logic.

Should 2 have set dials to fly off the board so he could get to work on time in the morning? What is the appropriate way to give up?

FFG needs to specify, in the tournament rules, how you are allowed to give up. Otherwise I see it as 1 received a 5 point win and another 200 MOV and everyone was happy, except you.

Second place conceded to first place so he could go home. What benefit does he gain from giving up first place?

'Collusion among players to manipulate scoring is expressly forbidden.'

I'm assuming you are referencing this section of tournament rules. In this case, you are arguing that 2, who had a lower MOV, is not allowed to concede to 1, who had the highest MOV in the tournament. This is essentially what happened. 2 likely would have won, as he had just beat 1. 2 wanted to go home so he conceded to 1. Top 4 were all awarded top 4 prizes. Highest tournament points was tied and highest MOV took first. Top 4 would not have changed in this circumstance.

This is how ridiculous you sound:

TLT shot on my Falcon with 1 hull left. TLT drops 3 hits. I don't roll defense dice and accept my defeat. My opponent and I should be disqualified, per your logic.

Should 2 have set dials to fly off the board so he could get to work on time in the morning? What is the appropriate way to give up?

FFG needs to specify, in the tournament rules, how you are allowed to give up. Otherwise I see it as 1 received a 5 point win and another 200 MOV and everyone was happy, except you.

Except, here is the rub. They didn't do a top 4 elimination. "they kept it standard format and games went by seed" So, from what I am reading they didn't play the final game. What would have happened if the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th place person won, and potentially won the entire event by MOV? Can you prove that everyone else was not coerced or "guilted" into not running the final round?

Anyone can concede at any time. If player two chose to concede to player 1, why end there? Why didn't players 3 and 4 not fight it out, maybe they had a chance to come in at a higher end point? Maybe the original poster already won a store championship and then the regional bye (which a player can only have 1 of) would go to the next player. Here is the thing, and I want to be VERY clear. Rules are meant to be followed. I TO/Judge X Wing all the time. The one thing that I absolutely love about doing so is that most of the time (95%+) when I am called over its to judge arc or distance. Very rarely (except when a new wave comes out before the accompanying FAQ) will it be to make an actual ruling on something hazy (Like what Omega Leader can/can't do). Or, sometimes its to explain a rule to a new player who may not be completely familiar with them.

Penalties need to be harsh for this event and these players. The reason is so that people in the future don't do the same thing, where more can/may be on the line. What would happen if someone tried to do what they did here at Gencon, Worlds, or even at their System Open at Adepticon? What would have happened if the top 8 in their event during round 5 just called their matches and decided not to play and end it there?

I see what you are saying about the single elimination after the cut. Can't help but agree there, as it is black and white in the tournament rules. This would appear to be an over sight by the TO.

The real question, then, is did the TO intend to violate the single elimination rules?

I agree rules should be followed. I do not agree with 'Your top 4 should be punished under the harshest penalties, and all your prizes forfeit.' It would seem the TO is ultimately at fault for improper organization and rules ruling. The players should not be penalized or removed from competition because the TO allowed this to occur. That's the price of responsibility.

If he is required to give up his prizes, I will concede one of my 4 C-3PO alternate art cards to him, because I'm a nice guy like that. :P

No one rigged or played the system, I thought i was eliminated after that lost but they said no its round robin style. I got my butt kicked in the last round by the gentlemen who after tha landed in 2nd place. They said we would have to play again. At that time it was mentioned to possibly call it if everyone was in agreement, due to travel and time frame. The guy who just beat me and had moved to 2nd place agreed, knowing he had a good chance still and 3,4 did the same, everyone was happy, no feelings were hurt. I think it was the lateness and 6 straight rounds that lead up to this, sorry im human and was exhausted and ready to go home. I understand your concern, but they way you have worded it as a grand conspiracy is not at all what happened. When the top 4 players talk it out and all agree, i don't see anyone at fault or the problem. We choose to take the standing as the were after 1 round.

The Death Star was an inside job

Nice report. Although in your first match after killing Vader with first tlt shot, you don't take the second shot, therefore no regen possibility.

Nice report. Although in your first match after killing Vader with first tlt shot, you don't take the second shot, therefore no regen possibility.

this i have been curious about honestly and wasnt sure about, but that the the first time i had encountered it, but yea that was incorrect because vader was a higher ps, and had already shot. that was my mistake.

So you colluded with your opponent and fixed the final game by not playing it. Personally, you and your opponent should lose the bye and it be awarded to third place.

No all 4 players where involved, it wasnt set up as elimination rounds, they kept it standard format and games went by seed, the final round was never played by anyone, it ended up just the 1 round after the cut, we talked about it and like i said it was not getting very late and 2 of the 4 had 2+ hour drives back home, the gentleman who beat me the that last match and the judges made the decision to call it.

So, the TO decided to do his own thing and not follow standard protocol by having a top 4 cut and elimination bracket - ok, different, but technically not a violation. You still admit that the final round wasn't played, and as such you admit to breaking the rules. By talking about "Ending" the tournament early, by INTENTIONALLY not playing any planned games, cut and elimination or round robin like you did, is WRONG. You admit to colluding, with our without the judge/to approval or not, it was wrong. Since you now admit that it was the entire top 4 plus the judge, well there needs to be severe consequences. 5th place, who you admit wasn't a part of your breaking the rules, should be declared the winner, Your top 4 should be punished under the harshest penalties, and all your prizes forfeit. I have submitted this post to FFG Organized Play for breaking their tournament rules under their suspension policy.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/spolicy/

And here I thought gaming was meant to be fun :) oh well...

So you colluded with your opponent and fixed the final game by not playing it. Personally, you and your opponent should lose the bye and it be awarded to third place.

No all 4 players where involved, it wasnt set up as elimination rounds, they kept it standard format and games went by seed, the final round was never played by anyone, it ended up just the 1 round after the cut, we talked about it and like i said it was not getting very late and 2 of the 4 had 2+ hour drives back home, the gentleman who beat me the that last match and the judges made the decision to call it.

So, the TO decided to do his own thing and not follow standard protocol by having a top 4 cut and elimination bracket - ok, different, but technically not a violation. You still admit that the final round wasn't played, and as such you admit to breaking the rules. By talking about "Ending" the tournament early, by INTENTIONALLY not playing any planned games, cut and elimination or round robin like you did, is WRONG. You admit to colluding, with our without the judge/to approval or not, it was wrong. Since you now admit that it was the entire top 4 plus the judge, well there needs to be severe consequences. 5th place, who you admit wasn't a part of your breaking the rules, should be declared the winner, Your top 4 should be punished under the harshest penalties, and all your prizes forfeit. I have submitted this post to FFG Organized Play for breaking their tournament rules under their suspension policy.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/spolicy/

And here I thought gaming was meant to be fun :) oh well...

Your capacity for sarcasm does not fall within the FFG criteria for acceptable jest. I am going to report you.

Forgot to say congrats on the win man, nicely done.