Poe Dameron and Weapons Guidance

By Keoki, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Poe Dameron: While attacking or defending, if you have a focus token, you may change 1 of your focus results to a hit or evade result.

Weapons Guidance: When attacking, you may spend a focus token to change 1 of your blank results to a hit result.

How does the timing on these work? Can they be used together? For example, Poe focuses, then attacks, rolling 1 focus and 1 blank. Can he turn the focus into a hit with his pilot ability first, and then spend the focus to turn the blank to a hit with Weapons Guidance? Or does Weapons Guidance activate first, meaning Poe no longer has the focus token to activate his pilot ability? I couldn't find this in the FAQ.

Both effects takes place at the same time (during the 'modify attack roll' step). In this case you can resolve them in the order of your choosing.

Both effects takes place at the same time (during the 'modify attack roll' step). In this case you can resolve them in the order of your choosing.

Completely right. And that leaves you free to choose the most advantageous timing, which is the OP's first scenario: you use Poe's ability first to change a [focus] result to a [boom], then use Weapons Guidance to change a blank result to a [boom].

Edited by Vorpal Sword

If you however use Weapons Guidance first, you will have to spend the token and you won't have it for Poe's ability.

You can use these two together, but only Poe then WG. Not the other way around.

I do find it interesting that one card is "when attacking" and the other is "while attacking". I wonder why ffg would use different wording on two fairly recent card releases. Would the abilities be affected if poe said when and weapon guidance said while...

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I do find it interesting that one card is "when attacking" and the other is "while attacking". I wonder why ffg would use different wording on two fairly recent card releases. Would the abilities be affected if poe said when and weapon guidance said while...

Aren't they fairly interchangeable in this game?

I do find it interesting that one card is "when attacking" and the other is "while attacking". I wonder why ffg would use different wording on two fairly recent card releases. Would the abilities be affected if poe said when and weapon guidance said while...

Aren't they fairly interchangeable in this game?

Given the complaints about the particular wording used on certain early cards, I would have thought they might have templated their cards a little better, and standardised certain terms and phrases. Effectively, they're saying the same thing, but it does make me wonder if a translation to another language would change some things.

I do find it interesting that one card is "when attacking" and the other is "while attacking". I wonder why ffg would use different wording on two fairly recent card releases. Would the abilities be affected if poe said when and weapon guidance said while...

Aren't they fairly interchangeable in this game?

Given the complaints about the particular wording used on certain early cards, I would have thought they might have templated their cards a little better, and standardised certain terms and phrases. Effectively, they're saying the same thing, but it does make me wonder if a translation to another language would change some things.

They need a few Technical Writers in the design dept.

I do find it interesting that one card is "when attacking" and the other is "while attacking". I wonder why ffg would use different wording on two fairly recent card releases. Would the abilities be affected if poe said when and weapon guidance said while...

Aren't they fairly interchangeable in this game?

Given the complaints about the particular wording used on certain early cards, I would have thought they might have templated their cards a little better, and standardised certain terms and phrases. Effectively, they're saying the same thing, but it does make me wonder if a translation to another language would change some things.

They need a few Technical Writers in the design dept.

Either that, or they need to look at similar previous cards and ask themselves, "how did we word that one again?"

Edited by Parravon

I think it refers to the dictionary meaning of while and when.

The first one, normally used when talking about longer time events, refers here to a situation of a constant possibility to apply that effect within two phases of the round (both attacking and defending), moreover a usage of the ability during attack step does not eliminate from using it in several defense opportunities later on.

The second one is a single event - you spend a token and that's the end of it.

http://www.grammar-quizzes.com/adv_whenwhile.html