Alternative stands for ships?

By Lord Tareq, in Star Wars: Armada

So instead of the FFG Star Destroyer which imho is too wide and short and has a bridge that is too small, I decided to go with the Diecast Disney version which is more movie accurate and as a bonus slightly larger. Obviously the downside to this is that it doesn't come with all the gameplay accessories that the FFG ISD comes with. Now the ISD cards are easy to acquire through ebay, however I'm having difficulty finding a large ship stand to mount my Star Destroyer on. Does anyone know of any online shops that might sell just the stands (I know there are several shops that sell individual Warhammer 40k bits, but haven't found any that do this with Armada bits) or perhaps a company that makes alternative replacement stands?

Thanks in advance!

Which star destroyer the imperial or victory.

Best to view the game as a commander viewing a technical map as yhe battle unfoldes and direct his fleet.

I have no issue with the size or display of any of the ships

Does anyone know of any online shops that might sell just the stands

You're going to have trouble finding anyone who does. Perhaps some sort of 3d printed stand but that's it. FFG is not going to generally let people produce stands for their games because those are key components.

Also for what it's worth, such a stand would not be tournament legal.

Does anyone know of any online shops that might sell just the stands

You're going to have trouble finding anyone who does. Perhaps some sort of 3d printed stand but that's it. FFG is not going to generally let people produce stands for their games because those are key components.

Also for what it's worth, such a stand would not be tournament legal.

Neither would the model going on it, either, so I don't think he's really worried about that at this juncture :D

Melminiatures on Shapeways has (or had) them. Might want to search there.

Aye I don't play tournaments at my age anymore, its mostly just the collecting and painting and the occasional friendly match while drinking whisky. I did see the shapeways stands from mel, but they cost like 65 euro each in transparant plastic or 25 in white. For that amount I can or can almost buy the FFG ISD and use the stand from that ;)

That's all there is available. No-one to my knowledge sells them separate, or in any other format, because as a build, they are surprisingly complex for the job...

Shapeways charges what shapeways charges, not much can be done with that/

Yeah, I haven't seen any other options, either. You might be able to find a 3D printer file, and then hope you have a friend who owns a 3D printer, but short of that Shapeways is the only option I've found.

Wait - since when are fan models tournament illegal? I know that you can't use alternate bases and you will need to use official stat cards, but the models are just for show. I know that the tournament rules don't make specific mention of fan models - has FFG made any kind of statement?

Wait - since when are fan models tournament illegal? I know that you can't use alternate bases and you will need to use official stat cards, but the models are just for show. I know that the tournament rules don't make specific mention of fan models - has FFG made any kind of statement?

You may need to reread them.

Because only FFG Components can be used. Ships are a Component.

You can't even Modify the Ships Shape through a conversion, the only modification allowed is the paint job.

Wait - since when are fan models tournament illegal? I know that you can't use alternate bases and you will need to use official stat cards, but the models are just for show. I know that the tournament rules don't make specific mention of fan models - has FFG made any kind of statement?

You may need to reread them.

Because only FFG Components can be used. Ships are a Component.

You can't even Modify the Ships Shape through a conversion, the only modification allowed is the paint job.

I seem to remember thet something like 70% of the model needed to be recognizable as original, but modifications to a poin were still legal for tournament use.

Hunh! - fair enough... This does make me sad, though.

I seem to remember thet something like 70% of the model needed to be recognizable as original, but modifications to a poin were still legal for tournament use.

Either that was a first iteration of the rules (which I no longer have archived, going back) or for a different game system.

FFG Tournament Rules, Page 6:

LEGAL PRODUCTS

Only official Star Wars: Armada components are legal for use in tournament play. Proxies of cards and ship models cannot be used. Third-party tokens and range rulers may be allowed at the head judge’s discretion.

FFG Tournament Rules, Page 4:

COMPONENT MODIFICATIONS

During tournament play, each player is required to use the components included in official Star Wars: Armada products (see “Legal Products” on page 6). The head judge is the final authority on any component’s eligibility in the tournament. If a component is ruled ineligible and the player cannot locate a replacement for it, that player is disqualified from the tournament.

It is possible for a player to have multiple identical ship cards in his or her fleet. To avoid confusion, it is required that each ship be identified to its player and ship card with ID tokens.

Players are welcome and encouraged to personalize their fleets according to the following rules:

• Players may paint their Star Wars: Armada ships and squadrons.

• Players cannot modify ship bases to alter their size or shape. Weight may be added to a ship base if it does not alter the size or shape of the base.

• Cards must remain unaltered, though they may be sleeved for protection. Sleeves for Damage cards must be identical and unaltered.

• Players may mark their tokens, command dials, and speed dials to indicate ownership as long as the function of the component is not compromised. However, players should be careful not to mark the cardboard in their command dials in any way that may indicate to their opponents what commands they have selected!

• Players may mark asteroid fields, debris fields, and other obstacles to indicate ownership, but cannot otherwise alter them in any way.

This is the closest I have found. I think they are just chopped cote sets, as medium bases are not listed.

https://www.bigorbitcards.co.uk/#/category/1806956

Edited by cynanbloodbane

I seem to remember thet something like 70% of the model needed to be recognizable as original, but modifications to a poin were still legal for tournament use.

That's never been a rule for X-Wing and I've never seen them change the rules for Armada from the X-Wing standards. That was a rule for games like 40k however.

I seem to remember thet something like 70% of the model needed to be recognizable as original, but modifications to a poin were still legal for tournament use.

That's never been a rule for X-Wing and I've never seen them change the rules for Armada from the X-Wing standards. That was a rule for games like 40k however.

Yep. That was the old Rogue Trader rule. Which was super fun to verify as TO. And then they replaced it with the even more difficult "must start as a Citadel model." Thanks for that one, GW. Now I don't think they even care any more, because they don't do official tournaments.

Conversions seem a bit of a grey area. There is nothing that says you can't bring a conversion of an Armada ship to a tournament, only that you may not modify the bases. Though they also do not explicitly mention that you can use them, like they do with painted ships. I suspect most conversions will be fine, unless you go completely overboard. Anyhow all this nitpicking is one reason I don't generally play tournaments.

Anyhow thanks for all the input on the ship stands, seems like an excellent opportunity for an entrepreneur looking to start a business in after-market Armada parts ;)

Conversions seem a bit of a grey area. There is nothing that says you can't bring a conversion of an Armada ship to a tournament, only that you may not modify the bases. Though they also do not explicitly mention that you can use them, like they do with painted ships. I suspect most conversions will be fine, unless you go completely overboard. Anyhow all this nitpicking is one reason I don't generally play tournaments.

Anyhow thanks for all the input on the ship stands, seems like an excellent opportunity for an entrepreneur looking to start a business in after-market Armada parts ;)

Or for FFG to start selling colored bases for Armada, like they announced for X-wing. Seriously, I would buy one for every single custom ship or squadron I buy. They would make money on the ships they don't make!