So quick question regarding these packs , i'm interested in buying a few but just want to know if i can simply use the monster's in the shadow rune & heirs of blood campaign to give me extra choice as the Overlord ??
Hope this question makes sense.
Heroes and Monster packs
With my first playthrough of the shadow rune campaign as overlord I used monsters from the Bonds of the Wild M&H pack. They are a good way to add more variety in what you can field as an Overlord. The H&M packs are pricy though. I have now got Crown of Destiny and Guardians of Deephall. Looking forward to running my next campaign.
Yes, you can use them. Quests very often have 'open groups'. Each monster has certain traits and the quests guide specifies from which traits the open group can be chosen.
The official rule states that you should determine the expansion and H&M pack that you're going to use at the start of a campaign, you shouldn't had new expansion or H&M pack in the course of a campaign.
But our houserule (and I'm sure we're not alone), as soon as an expansion is bought, we add the content to our existing campaign.
Edited by DarthButchbruneThe official rule states that you should determine the expansion and M&H pack that you're going to use at the start of a campaign, you shouldn't had new expansion or M&H pack in the course of a campaign.
But our houserule (and I'm sure we're not alone), as soon as an expansion is bought, we add the content to our existing campaign.
Are there people who have to patience to wait?
Rules are rules!
(Yes, I wait)
As the others have mentioned the monsters can be put into any campaign via open groups. However the only quests where they will be a default monster group are the 2 rumor quests that come in the pack.
A bit of research can be used to go over the campaign you are planning to play and the monsters that come in a pack to see how often they will be available. (Not that i have but im sure someone probably has done).
On a different note, are there any European, specifically UK, players who have been able to get a hold of treaty of champions? All my usual regular and reliable stockists have not seen the product. Best i have found is an Amazon seller going for £40+ which is bonkers.
Cheers for the info folks.
What are these rumour cards ?
So basically any monster from any expansion whether it be from big box expansions , small box expansions or monster and hero expansions your able to use in both the base campaigns as long as the open monster group traits matches ?
I plan to crush my mate and want a good selection of these deadly demons hahahahahaha
I shall do a bit of research and see what trait gets used the most in both the campaigns.
I think your out of luck at the moment for Treaty of Champions at the moment. I always use boardgameprices for atock checks
Rumor cards are extra 'events' the overlord can play. Most of these feature extra quests. (the H&M packs only have quests, some small box expansions have others)
These quests can be played during a full campaign (Shadow Rune, LoR, SoN, HoB) as extra quests on top of the normal available quests.
A bit of research can be used to go over the campaign you are planning to play and the monsters that come in a pack to see how often they will be available. (Not that i have but im sure someone probably has done).
Work in progress info from my campaign tracker (monsters with matching traits can be found here - http://d2etracker.com/stats_monsters.php)
This a sum of all traits (per encounter) of every quest, per expansion:
The Shadow Rune
17
x cave
14
x dark
13
x cursed
13
x mountain
10
x wilderness
10
x civilized
9
x building
5
x water
5
x cold
5
x hot
4
x all
Lair of the Wyrm
4
x civilized
4
x building
4
x wilderness
3
x hot
2
x mountain
2
x cave
1
x cursed
Labyrinth of Ruin
14
x building
12
x wilderness
11
x mountain
11
x cursed
9
x water
7
x hot
6
x civilized
5
x cave
4
x dark
3
x cold
The Trollfens
4
x water
3
x wilderness
3
x dark
2
x building
2
x cursed
1
x cave
1
x cold
1
x civilized
Shadow of Nerekhall
17
x hot
16
x cursed
11
x civilized
10
x building
7
x water
7
x cave
7
x dark
5
x wilderness
1
x mountain
1
x cold
Manor of Ravens
6
x cursed
6
x building
2
x water
2
x wilderness
1
x dark
1
x cave
1
x civilized
Crusade of the Forgotten
2
x mountain
1
x cave
1
x hot
Oath of the Outcast
1
x cursed
1
x cave
1
x mountain
1
x wilderness
Crown of Destiny
2
x mountain
1
x cave
1
x hot
Guardians of Deephall
2
x cursed
1
x cave
1
x civilized
Heirs of Blood
20
x building
16
x cursed
12
x wilderness
11
x cave
9
x dark
7
x mountain
6
x hot
5
x civilized
4
x water
3
x all
2
x cold
Visions of Dawn
2
x wilderness
2
x mountain
Bonds of the Wild
2
x cursed
1
x building
1
x dark
1
x hot
1
x cave
Mists of Bilehall
5
x wilderness
4
x cursed
3
x cave
2
x water
2
x mountain
2
x civilized
1
x hot
1
x cold
1
x building
Treaty of Champions
2
x cursed
2
x building
1
x dark
1
x cave
1
x water
1
x wilderness
Cheers for the info folks.
What are these rumour cards ?
So basically any monster from any expansion whether it be from big box expansions , small box expansions or monster and hero expansions your able to use in both the base campaigns as long as the open monster group traits matches ?
I plan to crush my mate and want a good selection of these deadly demons hahahahahaha
I shall do a bit of research and see what trait gets used the most in both the campaigns.
Rumor cards are a concept originally introduced in the small box expansions - they let the overlord choose to add extra quests to a campaign to integrate the smaller campaign quests into a big box campaign. The hero and monster packs provide an additional quest via the rumor mechanic as well. They are optional and for your first campaign or two i would personally recommend that they be left alone, if both parties are not fully up on the game they can really swing a campaign balance around.
I think your out of luck at the moment for Treaty of Champions at the moment. I always use boardgameprices for atock checks
Thank you for the website name though, not one ive used before but useful for the data.
Rumor cards are extra 'events' the overlord can play. Most of these feature extra quests. (the H&M packs only have quests, some small box expansions have others)
These quests can be played during a full campaign (Shadow Rune, LoR, SoN, HoB) as extra quests on top of the normal available quests.
A bit of research can be used to go over the campaign you are planning to play and the monsters that come in a pack to see how often they will be available. (Not that i have but im sure someone probably has done).
Work in progress info from my campaign tracker (monsters with matching traits can be found here - http://d2etracker.com/stats_monsters.php)
This a sum of all traits (per encounter) of every quest, per expansion:
The Shadow Rune
17 x cave
14 x dark
13 x cursed
13 x mountain
10 x wilderness
10 x civilized
9 x building
5 x water
5 x cold
5 x hot
4 x all
Lair of the Wyrm
4 x civilized
4 x building
4 x wilderness
3 x hot
2 x mountain
2 x cave
1 x cursed
Labyrinth of Ruin
14 x building
12 x wilderness
11 x mountain
11 x cursed
9 x water
7 x hot
6 x civilized
5 x cave
4 x dark
3 x cold
The Trollfens
4 x water
3 x wilderness
3 x dark
2 x building
2 x cursed
1 x cave
1 x cold
1 x civilized
Shadow of Nerekhall
17 x hot
16 x cursed
11 x civilized
10 x building
7 x water
7 x cave
7 x dark
5 x wilderness
1 x mountain
1 x cold
Manor of Ravens
6 x cursed
6 x building
2 x water
2 x wilderness
1 x dark
1 x cave
1 x civilized
Crusade of the Forgotten
2 x mountain
1 x cave
1 x hot
Oath of the Outcast
1 x cursed
1 x cave
1 x mountain
1 x wilderness
Crown of Destiny
2 x mountain
1 x cave
1 x hot
Guardians of Deephall
2 x cursed
1 x cave
1 x civilized
Heirs of Blood
20 x building
16 x cursed
12 x wilderness
11 x cave
9 x dark
7 x mountain
6 x hot
5 x civilized
4 x water
3 x all
2 x cold
Visions of Dawn
2 x wilderness
2 x mountain
Bonds of the Wild
2 x cursed
1 x building
1 x dark
1 x hot
1 x cave
Mists of Bilehall
5 x wilderness
4 x cursed
3 x cave
2 x water
2 x mountain
2 x civilized
1 x hot
1 x cold
1 x building
Treaty of Champions
2 x cursed
2 x building
1 x dark
1 x cave
1 x water
1 x wilderness
Atom, you are a gentleman and a scholar sir. Excellent data provision.
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If you're having trouble choosing which Monster groups to use as the OL, my advice is to use traits also associated with Plot Decks, if you are using them.