imperial veterans speculation thread

By eibon, in X-Wing

Hi all, I'm sorry if there's already threads about this but I'm super pumped for imp vets and wondering wot ppl think the defender and bomber that haven't been revealed yet do, I no the red defenders effect is fairly short but can't make it out. So wot do yall reckon they do?

The unspoiled bomber pilot has to have something close to redline or hes gunna struggle, unless his ability is based off of carrying crew with the new title.

I'm thinking the unspoiled bomber pilot will be similar to Deathrain rather than Redline; I think it will have some sort of tweaked bomb-dropping ability.

Countess Ryad looks like she will have some sort of ability related to revealing her manoeuvre, from the wording visible at the edge of the card. I'm assuming lower PS than Maarek, so 5 at a guess, given Vess is already 6.

Sys(tems) Of(ficer) is the thing I'm most curious about personally. I think the TIE Shuttle is the bit that people are overlooking a little in this set (and to be fair, the defender fixes are huge) and I hope that will have a lot of synergy with Fleet Officer; 22 or 23 point support shuttle will fit so well into a lot of Imp lists.

Just hope Glaive Squadron Pilots have an elite pilot talent and are 33ish points.

I still want my Bomb-Jonus that provides boni for allies that drop Bombs. Something like a Super-Sabine.

...boni?

...boni?

Plural for bonus? Maybe buff is more appropriate, not sure.

Ok, here is my educated guess:

The Bomber pilot is probably Deathfire.
I think his ability is that he may drop bombs and mines before or after movement, as far as I can read his ability: "When ... or after ... may ..."

When he drops a bomb after movement he might still get clear of it using a barrel roll.

So as if he had Genius and Advanced Sensors (for equipped mines only) installed.

The Defender pilot also starts with "When ... " - so I guess its a free action when pulling a specific action on the action bar, like:
"When you perform a focus action, you may perform a free boost action."

Together with the x7 title this would lead to 3 stressless actions.

In the first preview title of the Tie Defender it was stated that all named Tie Defender pilots are given an EPT, so I think this one will get one, too.

You want to bump her to 7 to make better usage out of her ability - especially if it happens to be boost.

Edited by TheRealStarkiller

The bomber should have a secondary weapons ability as tht wud give bombers a buff on top of the shuttle title, I'm really intrigued by systems officer, tho I can't even guess at what it might do, hope it's like fleet officer and gives out target locks or something like that, and I'm hoping ryad has a defensive bonus, similar to valon rudor.

The bomber should have a secondary weapons ability as tht wud give bombers a buff on top of the shuttle title, I'm really intrigued by systems officer, tho I can't even guess at what it might do, hope it's like fleet officer and gives out target locks or something like that, and I'm hoping ryad has a defensive bonus, similar to valon rudor.

From what little we see of the card it looks like Systems Officer will be 'when you reveal' or 'when you execute a manoeuvre you may' - I'm really hoping it synergises with Fleet Officer.

I've run Bomber Shuttles with just Fleet Officer and TIEMk2 and a pair of aces before and it is very potent. Especially when the aces are Vessery and Redline and you're basically guaranteeing them double focuses and target locks for their double attacks. It's hyper accurate and awesome.

LRS is going to rock for Scimitar Pilots.

Ok, here is my educated guess:

The Bomber pilot is probably Deathfire.

I think his ability is that he may drop bombs and mines before or after movement, as far as I can read his ability: "When ... or after ... may ..."

When he drops a bomb after movement he might still get clear of it using a barrel roll.

So as if he had Genius and Advanced Sensors (for equipped mines only) installed.

The Defender pilot also starts with "When ... " - so I guess its a free action when pulling a specific action on the action bar, like:

"When you perform a focus action, you may perform a free boost action."

Together with the x7 title this would lead to 3 stressless actions.

In the first preview title of the Tie Defender it was stated that all named Tie Defender pilots are given an EPT, so I think this one will get one, too.

You want to bump her to 7 to make better usage out of her ability - especially if it happens to be boost.

The word maneuver is partially visible at the beginning of the second line. Likely you get some sort of free action when you escort a maneuver or specific type of maneuver.

Countess Ryad looks like she will have some sort of ability related to revealing her manoeuvre, from the wording visible at the edge of the card. I'm assuming lower PS than Maarek, so 5 at a guess, given Vess is already 6.

We can already see that she's PS 5 in the card fan.

Countess Ryad looks like she will have some sort of ability related to revealing her manoeuvre, from the wording visible at the edge of the card. I'm assuming lower PS than Maarek, so 5 at a guess, given Vess is already 6.

We can already see that she's PS 5 in the card fan.

Good guess then! I'd forgotten that we knew it already.

I hope it's a strong ability, I'd love to see more strong abilities mitigated by low-ish PS, like Vessery's.

Ok, here is my educated guess:

The Bomber pilot is probably Deathfire.

I think his ability is that he may drop bombs and mines before or after movement, as far as I can read his ability: "When ... or after ... may ..."

When he drops a bomb after movement he might still get clear of it using a barrel roll.

So as if he had Genius and Advanced Sensors (for equipped mines only) installed.

The Defender pilot also starts with "When ... " - so I guess its a free action when pulling a specific action on the action bar, like:

"When you perform a focus action, you may perform a free boost action."

Together with the x7 title this would lead to 3 stressless actions.

In the first preview title of the Tie Defender it was stated that all named Tie Defender pilots are given an EPT, so I think this one will get one, too.

You want to bump her to 7 to make better usage out of her ability - especially if it happens to be boost.

The word maneuver is partially visible at the beginning of the second line. Likely you get some sort of free action when you escort a maneuver or specific type of maneuver.

Cross fingers for "before a manouver friendly ships at range 1-2 may drop two bombs instead of one"!

Ok, here is my educated guess:

The Bomber pilot is probably Deathfire.

I think his ability is that he may drop bombs and mines before or after movement, as far as I can read his ability: "When ... or after ... may ..."

When he drops a bomb after movement he might still get clear of it using a barrel roll.

So as if he had Genius and Advanced Sensors (for equipped mines only) installed.

The Defender pilot also starts with "When ... " - so I guess its a free action when pulling a specific action on the action bar, like:

"When you perform a focus action, you may perform a free boost action."

Together with the x7 title this would lead to 3 stressless actions.

In the first preview title of the Tie Defender it was stated that all named Tie Defender pilots are given an EPT, so I think this one will get one, too.

You want to bump her to 7 to make better usage out of her ability - especially if it happens to be boost.

The word maneuver is partially visible at the beginning of the second line. Likely you get some sort of free action when you escort a maneuver or specific type of maneuver.

Cross fingers for "before a manouver friendly ships at range 1-2 may drop two bombs instead of one"!

Oh sorry I wasn't clear. Talking about the Countess. She's the Defender pilot, no bombs to drop.

Ah, ****. Well I hope we see more of the expansion soon.

Just give me those TIE/x7 cards already!!!

I have about a dozen squads I want to run using Imperial Veterans upgrades. I may never not field a squad without a Bomber or Defender.

I want/hope there will be a generic Defender pilot with an EPT slot so I can take the /x7 title and Juke.

In addition to a generic Defender pilot with an EPT, I'm hoping the Countess' ability has something to do with after a certain speed maneuver she gets a free action or Target Lock or something.

I want/hope there will be a generic Defender pilot with an EPT slot so I can take the /x7 title and Juke.

This is like, 99% certain at this point. What price it'll be is the real question. I'm assuming it'll work out to 33 or 34, so you can get 3 of them in a list with /x7, but not with useful EPTs.

Edited by thespaceinvader

I want/hope there will be a generic Defender pilot with an EPT slot so I can take the /x7 title and Juke.

I'm very certain that's what the Glaives are. At least I hope so. You'd think they'd learn their lesson with the Defender, not to have an expensive ship that needs some love to make it work and not give it an EPT, but then they went and did it again with the Starviper. But With the release of the Jumpmaster they're breaking the mold in regards to who gets EPTs. So hopefully they'll get it right this time.

but not with useful EPTs.

You mean like Veteran Instincts or Crackshot? At 32 points post Title reduction, there's still room for some good ones plus a 1 point initiative bid. Or to have one with Juke and two with Crackshot or something.

Glaives should have an EPT. The are the Royal Guard Pilot of the Defender line. I think they'll be 34 points, but I will be presently surprised if they are 33.

Highly doubt they'll be 33 though. Being able to run 3 with Juke sounds a bit crazy.

Edited by Jo Jo