Math says if I want to buy 4 of each ship for a new wave it costs me 66.66 a month to make that happen, like buying a new game each month or doing starbucks twice a week.

At first I laughed... and then after calculation on what my wife spends at the local coffee shop... HOLY CRAP!

Compared to 2, 20oz Almond Milk, Almond Joy with an Extra Shot with Whipped Cream and Cinnamon per week... and you're left with a craving for sugar and a cardboard heat protector... yeah... I'll take plastic miniatures for Star Wars, thanks!

As long as they keep releasing new TIEs, I'll keep buying 2 of each.

I consider my collection rather large. Multiples of most small ships, but only one of each large and epic ships. However, this is no where near the amount I have spent on 40K throughout the years. The only game I think I spent less on that I actively play is Malifaux.

It's called a conversation.

Saying "what do people think about the cost of the game?" Is starting a conversation. Making a declarative statement like "this isn't a cheap game" is asking for an argument (or soliciting "yes men" style agreement posts".

It is still a conversation and his post intended on ending it. Sorry on this point you are incorrect.

It's a great game, but I just wonder what others think.

You do not have to post here.

You're looking at it wrong. The cost shouldn't be your focus, but the value.

What is the value of X-Wing?

I've been playing this game for about 2 months and, in that time, I've spent about $200. Now, to anyone who doesn't understand the value of these types of games that looks like a lot of money to spend on little toy models, but, if you break it down, I've gotten approximately 50 hours of game time in those two months. 50 hours of entertainment (not counting painting, modeling, socializing, or list building - which I also enjoy) for $200. $4/hour isn't bad, and it's only that expensive because I've so recently bought in. If this trend continues, in two more months I'll pick up the TAP and 2x Imp Vets adding about $60 more to the total and get in approximately 50 more hours play time for an estimated $2.60/hour.

Honestly, how many other things could you be doing for $2.60/hour that would bring you nearly as much joy?

To me, that's good value.

It's called a conversation.

Saying "what do people think about the cost of the game?" Is starting a conversation. Making a declarative statement like "this isn't a cheap game" is asking for an argument (or soliciting "yes men" style agreement posts".

It is still a conversation and his post intended on ending it. Sorry on this point you are incorrect.

It's a great game, but I just wonder what others think.

You do not have to post here.

Nope, you're dead wrong. I never intended on ending your "conversation." I literally didn't understand what you were trying to accomplish by asking an active forum for the 2nd most popular miniatures game on the market if they would continue to buy into it. Not to mention it's based on the #1 selling movie series of all time that trail-blazed merchandising. Everything is right about this game, including cost, model quality, game function, and replayability that you will not find anyone here who says they are going to stop buying into the game.

I consider X-wing to be quite a bargain compared to some of the other games I've played. As a former 40k and Warhammer Fantasy player, X-wing is nothing compared to the level of time and money GW games demand. Also, Fantasy Flight Games treats the players (and the game itself). In comparison, I felt like I was being backstabbed by GW by their ruthless price hikes and never ending rules releases that resulted in entire armies being made irrelevant overnight or catapulted into brokenness with every rules release.

I still have a great deal of love for 40k and Fantasy, but I loathe GWs business policies that make it impossible to enjoy the game the way they want you to play it.

As a gamer I expect to shell out a fair amount for a well designed game. X-wing is a great value to me for the dollars I spend. It's not cheap, but I feel that it provides a gaming experience that cheap games cannot match. I still enjoy cheap games too, but Xwing is the game I play when I want a really rich, satisfying game experience where skill matters more than luck.

Buying X-wing miniatures is like a fine wine... each ship should be sipped and savored, not chugged down all at once.

Could be lots worse. Could be random packs like MTG.

No joke. I moved over from MtG and I spend less per YEAR on X-Wing than I did PER RELEASE of MtG. Granted, I don't do "moderation" well. Admittedly.

That being said, I also play hockey and mountain bike..... I doubt I'll ever spend as much on X-wing in my entire hobby as I spend on a single run of hockey gear or MTB stuff. Heck, one middle-of-the-road mountain bike will run you $2K, easy.

So X-wing is a bargain compared to a lot of stuff.

Yeah, 1st world problems I suppose.... :/

I gave up on Star Wars right after Han shot second. That being said it is still a great game and I am happy to play it.

Most MMO's cost upward of $20.00 bucks a month without figuring in the cost of building a pc or upgrading every year or so and that is what I was doing for years.

Warhammer is just outrageous price wise and is the only game more popular as far as tabletop miniatures games go. And they just love to make your list suck or make it illegal to play by the rules in a year or so. Tie swarms will still be a thing for a long time.

Any other hobby makes this look like chump change, even if you buy multiples of everything.

Guys I work with have a lot of hobbies in no particular order:

Snowmobiling....got 15 grand for a sled?

Razor for non snow months....another 15 grand?

Rifle golf (or any kind of competitive shooting sport)....few grand for a nice gun and about a hundred bucks of ammo for events and tourney costs for a day of shooting.

Really at double the cost we still get off easy compared to all of these (and even GW stuff still to boot).

Not to mention it's based on the #1 selling movie series of all time

Actually it isn't, it's fourth. Beat out by Marvel (#1) and James Bond (#3) just from shear number of movies and the Harry Potter films (#2) because, I don't know why, the movies kinda sucked.

Agree with everything else you said though. And SW should beat out Potter and Bond once more movies come out. Marvel might continue to give it a run for the money though (which I'm sure Disney is thrilled with).

It says something about my frame of mind that when I read PS4, I immediately wondered which one! Red Squadron Pilot, perhaps?! And I *have* a PS4! Which cost me far more than my X-Wing collection, yet has given me less enjoyment, time spent, and friendships than X-Wing has. And people say it's an extensive hobby! Pft! Good on you, sir, good on you!

You can own a 100 pts list under the cost of only one Top PS4 Game. Without DLCs.

Cheap or not...some of us are middle agers and our workmates have toys like boats, custom sport vehicles or go hunting...

Others are 12 years old that must think.four times after buying a ship.

Compare x wing with related stuff. FoW, 40k, Infinity, Malifaux. Not an expensive hobby. If you wan to build a huge fleet it is some money, but +/- 300 ships cost me about 4.000 euros. Some ebay, mostly original. To my taste, it is Art. I sit ans watch them, and relax watching. "Rabbit in.a snowstorm" is quite more expensive.

So as a curiosity how far are you going with this? How expensive is this going to be for the full game?

My shelves to store 40k cost more than my entire X-wing.

And I'm a dedicated Epic player >_>

Sorry, that was in response to Grayfax and forgot to quote you! Now I don't know how to edit in a quotation... Dammit, I now look like a loon...

Dollar/time is fantastic.

I agree. But it's still outside my universe. The scum and later pilots are all fluff, lol. But wow. Years of steady buying. A great business model

Well, I'll some ships are 'outside' your universe (and I'm assuming you mean ships from the old EU) then take it as an opportunity to get 'in' to that universe - track down the old EU books that contain the ships you have and delve in to a whole new facet of the franchise

As said above, compared to what sports equipment, automobiles (either veteran cars or new car tuning), Hifi equipment, good music instruments, computers/consoles, electronics or model-railroading costs, x-wing is cheap.

Or comparing to board games, i have all but one Dominion expansion, plus 3 wooden boxes and lotsa card ptotectors, that added up fast as well.

Sorry, that was in response to Grayfax and forgot to quote you! Now I don't know how to edit in a quotation... Dammit, I now look like a loon...

Nah... and it's all good. When I read your comment I knew where it came from and it was good all by itself...

As for editing in a quotation, the best way is to flip the html switch (top left corner by your profile picture) and modify it directly. If you need to see how it looks, even while typing out a reply, just click the quote button on the post right above it (it will dump their whole comment in the middle of what you are saying, which you will then most likely delete but it gives you how to quote it), just replace the name and all the other non-essential information but leave the brackets and the word quote. So yeah, it is intuitive if you've been dealing with webpages for a while. Your response was probably easier... *sigh*

Time and ease of introduction is the most important part for us. On a given 4-9 LGS game night you can fit 3-4 games. Our old game of WHFB was 1 or 2 games with significant setup time. Plus with no painting and fairly easy starting rules everyone from my dad to my littlest sister can and do play.

I vote we rename this thread Plastic Space Ships Anonymous.

I see a lot of references to GW and MTG. I have never invested in any of those games, so just out of curiousity: How much does one roughly spend on these games compared to X-wing?

The cost to start this game is fairly high like all miniature games. Card games like MTG are inherently cheaper to start as they have lower cost of material and thus sell for less. They are also more compact thus have a lower transport cost both for the seller and the player. MTG and other card games can become expensive if you play constructed exents competitively, But cost per sealed events remains low.

Cost of Miniature games depend on how many miniatures you need to play the game. Warhammer for example costs a lot cos u need a lot of minis. X-wing has a low mini count.

X-wings main cost is from competitive play where all minis and upgrades cannot be proxied. In this case you will need to buy ships sometimes only for upgrades you want.

The method other long running games use to mitigate cost of entry is the limited format, which x-wing currently doesn't have. All 7 waves (8 soon) in x-wing are legal in every format. Limited formats increase players cost to remain competitive however.

While x-wing cost of entry is high, the cost to remain competitive is low. With no limited format, and a regular release cycle of 2 a year, x-wing doesn't really cost that much. Once you have a base collection of ships - you can possibly get away with a $15 a month budget for new ships and still keep competitive.

Gw is a lot - as well as the investment in paints and modelling equipment you could be looking at £200 plus books (rulebook at £50, army book at £30) then every edition change you need new rulebook and every armybook change you need new armybook (which always makes the poor choices from the previous books better which, with new units releasing, means another spend out on models)

MtG runs in cycles - so you buy a deck in singles (competative deck maybe £40+) or buy multiple boosters) but then as a set rolls out (say every 6 months or so) that set becomes illegal in standard play and the new sets become legal so, you're always chasing cards.

Gw is a lot - as well as the investment in paints and modelling equipment you could be looking at £200 plus books (rulebook at £50, army book at £30) then every edition change you need new rulebook and every armybook change you need new armybook (which always makes the poor choices from the previous books better which, with new units releasing, means another spend out on models)

MtG runs in cycles - so you buy a deck in singles (competative deck maybe £40+) or buy multiple boosters) but then as a set rolls out (say every 6 months or so) that set becomes illegal in standard play and the new sets become legal so, you're always chasing cards.

How often did you have to purchase these new books? Once a year, multiple times a year?

Comparing X-wing to Warhammer doesn't make sense cause the scales don't match up, if you want to compare it to another miniature game compare it to a skirmish one. (Or Bloodbowl or such)