BB8 and stay on target?

By Spaceman91, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Can I (let say I'm using Poe) Reveal a 2 forward (green) use BB8 (let's say boost) then stay on target to move it to a gentle/hard 2?

Thanks in advance

Edited by Spaceman91

I think you would have to use Stay on Target first as it alters the "revealed" maneuver. I think if you use BB-8 first, then you have effectively decided that your revealed maneuver is going to be the green maneuver you dialed initially, and the window for using Stay on Target is now passed.

Well BB-8 only barrel rolls (he's a ball!), so I'm not sure what you meant by "let's say boost". Did you get him confused with Sabine's pilot ability?

Anyway: no, you can't.

Stay on Target changes your maneuver as it's being revealed, and the new maneuver, red paint and all, is the maneuver you're considered to have revealed. That's why SoT can work with Navigator. As far as BB-8 is concerned, you were always revealing a red maneuver.

Well BB-8 only barrel rolls (he's a ball!), so I'm not sure what you meant by "let's say boost". Did you get him confused with Sabine's pilot ability?Anyway: no, you can't.Stay on Target changes your maneuver as it's being revealed, and the new maneuver, red paint and all, is the maneuver you're considered to have revealed. That's why SoT can work with Navigator. As far as BB-8 is concerned, you were always revealing a red maneuver.

My bad. For some reason I was thinking BB8 gave a choice of BR or Boost.

O well back to the drawing board.

Thank you

I'm not sure what thread prompted me to send this question into Frank, but I just got an email with an answer that would apply here:

In response to your rules question:

Rules Question:

I've got two situations that involve the same rules concept that I'd like to get and answer about. That concept is "Does a maneuver that your opponent sets for you count as your revealed maneuver?". 1. A player with Boba Fett (Imperial) equipped with the Navigator Crew sets a red 4 K-Turn while stressed. When he reveals the red maneuver he hands his dial to his opponent and his opponent sets the dial to a 3 bank to the right that will send Boba Fett off the board. Can the player whose dial it is now use the abilities of Fett and Navigator to change the maneuver to a 1 bank to the left? 2. A player with BB-8 equipped to an X-Wing sets a red maneuver while stressed. His opponent sets the X-Wing's dial to a green maneuver. Does this count as revealing a green maneuver and trigger BB-8?

The maneuver your opponent chooses for you in case you attempted to execute a red maneuver while stressed counts as “your revealed maneuver.” You can rotate/change/etc. that dial as though you had chosen it yourself.
Thanks for playing,

Frank Brooks
Associate Creative Content Developer
Fantasy Flight Games

I think I'll have to disagrea with the consensus here.

Both SOT and BB8 trigger on revealing a maneuver. So you get to choos the order. If you use BB8 first, what is then stoping you from using SOT?

If you use SOT first, then I can see a case for BB8 not working as you no longer have a revealed green maneuver.

I'm I missing something?

I think I'll have to disagrea with the consensus here.

Both SOT and BB8 trigger on revealing a maneuver. So you get to choos the order. If you use BB8 first, what is then stoping you from using SOT?

If you use SOT first, then I can see a case for BB8 not working as you no longer have a revealed green maneuver.

I'm I missing something?

I'm inclined to agree. Both SoT and BB-8 have "When you reveal" as a trigger. It's shouldn't be any different than choosing to use Navigator before using SoT.

I think I'll have to disagrea with the consensus here.

Both SOT and BB8 trigger on revealing a maneuver. So you get to choos the order. If you use BB8 first, what is then stoping you from using SOT?

If you use SOT first, then I can see a case for BB8 not working as you no longer have a revealed green maneuver.

I'm I missing something?

I'm inclined to agree. Both SoT and BB-8 have "When you reveal" as a trigger. It's shouldn't be any different than choosing to use Navigator before using SoT.

That was my thinking. Being my trigger I can activate it in which ever order I want but I'm not 100% sure.

I think I'll have to disagrea with the consensus here.

Both SOT and BB8 trigger on revealing a maneuver. So you get to choos the order. If you use BB8 first, what is then stoping you from using SOT?

If you use SOT first, then I can see a case for BB8 not working as you no longer have a revealed green maneuver.

I'm I missing something?

I'm inclined to agree. Both SoT and BB-8 have "When you reveal" as a trigger. It's shouldn't be any different than choosing to use Navigator before using SoT.

That was my thinking. Being my trigger I can activate it in which ever order I want but I'm not 100% sure.

While you can choose the order, I think there is only one legal order that can apply with this combo. BB-8, then Stay on Target. (see below)

I think I'll have to disagrea with the consensus here.

Both SOT and BB8 trigger on revealing a maneuver. So you get to choos the order. If you use BB8 first, what is then stoping you from using SOT?

If you use SOT first, then I can see a case for BB8 not working as you no longer have a revealed green maneuver.

I'm I missing something?

Yeah, after thinking about it some more, I think you're right that there is nothing stopping you from using Stay on Target after BB-8.

But, Stay on Target then BB-8 definitely will not work because your maneuver is now red and BB-8 no longer triggers. It no longer matters what maneuver you revealed to start with, because Stay on Target has now made it a red maneuver.

Although they both share the same trigger, you must resolve one before the other, and using Stay on Target first will nullify BB-8's trigger, whereas BB-8 does nothing to change the trigger for Stay on Target.

Edited by Parravon

And so Dancing Porkins was born.

And so Dancing Porkins was born.

At this point I wish I could give Hobbie an ept and a targeting astro just to make this combo really hurt