I'm looking for a good list that will not only beat the Miranda + Han list below, but also not be weak to any other type of list in particular (if possible to have no weaknesses, or at least from common lists). Also, how would you improve the Miranda + Han list?

99 points

Miranda Doni (29)

- Gunner (5)

- Engine Upgrade (4)

TOTAL (38)

Han Solo (46)

- Lone Wolf (2)

- C-3PO (3)

- Gunner (5)

- Millennium Falcon (1)

- Engine Upgrade (4)

TOTAL (61)

I've flown against it several times, and I seem to lose regardless of who I go after first. The dang ships just won't die fast enough! I've tried swarmy lists and aces lists, but I don't want a list that's weak to Vader crew.

Crack swarm? Swarms are the classic answer to Han.

Try this

Marinda

Tlt

Biggs

R4-d6

Integrated Astromech

Gold squadron

Twin laser turret

Btl

R3a2

Bandit

Keep everything close to Biggs.

He protect everything.

Break marinda away to get a range 1 shot

The stressbot will shut down any ship that gets in his arc

If he catches Han, Han will be dead very fast.

Marinda as well.

While it's a dodgy list it's two ships with 1 agility

Two rounds of focus fire will kill the Falcon or marinda.

Marinda could die first engagement really

One thing for certain, stressbot will change the way your opponent will fly which also makes him more prone to make mistakes

Edit

Used my list mentioned above last night and Biggs really sold me with the new upgrade.

Got smoker by Proton rockets for 5 dice

In the end he only took 1 dmg.

Rolled two evades, prevented dmg received a stress and sacked droid.

May not work well against marinda (then again if marinda or Han get into range one of Biggs and hit him with 4 Hits he'll only take two dmg and get two stress

To answer your question on how to improve the Han and marinda list I'd take off lone wolf off Han and gunner on marinda

Yeah, a swarm list should do well. Also palp + aces, provided you have a better initiative bid (Soontir is quite strong vs Han as long as Han moves first).

I've also personally had lots of success against Han + whatever using this list:

Jax w/ PTL, title, autos & hull = 34

Sigma w/ sensor jammer, intel agent & stygium particle accelerator = 32

Sigma w/ sensor jammer, rebel captive & stygium particle accelerator = 34

100

Warning: not an easy list to use! However, it does a lot of damage, allowing you to kill Miranda quick and then as long as you still have 1 phantom (captive one) + Jax left, its extremely difficult for Han to win.

I'm really looking for a list that would work against say a decimator with vader crew and whisper as well. Can a Soontir last very long against an auto-crit turret?

Nope. If that's the case then go with a swarm. Or fight fire with fire and take a decimator of your own...

I'm really looking for a list that would work against say a decimator with vader crew and whisper as well. Can a Soontir last very long against an auto-crit turret?

Vader is numero uno in killing Soontirs in the Empire arsenal. Vader would do better here cause assuming you can dodge some you got 2 shields to soak the crits (so hes not gonna waste them), while flying similar to Soontir. Or just take shield upgrade on Fel. Assuming you dodge everything he will be more hesistant in using vader. But that is more half measure.

Sounds like a job for the Heaver special

Can't imagine those two getting through regen PS 10 poe anytime soon

Stress Y clips Hans wings with satisfying ease

I played against that list again, and a full swarm takes it out. But I don't really like playing a standard swarm due to Soontir/Whisper/etc. so I went bug zappers.

Banana Pirate w/ Feedback x 5

Banana Pirate w/ Feedback + Tracers + GC x 2

I was able to get everyone having a TL once on Han and that took him into the hull fairly easily even with Lone Wolf shenanigans. I do love how you can call 0 for C-3PO and then potentially roll the dice again for an evade anyway. That only worked once all game, but LW helped a few times. I had 5 zappers left to take down Miranda and 4 made it to the end. I never zapped anything, which is fine. Those are for just in case.

I'm going to try a stress hog build next time.