Price Check: B-Wing Pilots

By DagobahDave, in X-Wing

Continuing our series where we re-evaluate the points costs of cards in the current meta, one card category at a time. Just copy the list and insert your own point values.

If you find a card on the list that you have never been interested in taking in competition because it seems too inefficient or too situational, consider the point value that would convince you to try it in a competitive squad and write in that value.

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B-WINGS

Blue Squadron Pilot 22

Dagger Squadron Pilot 24

Nera Dantels 26

Ibtisam 28

Keyan Farlander 29

Ten Numb 31

B-Wing up until the most recent evolving meta have been waaaaaaaaay cheap, especially Blue Squadron. At 22 points its ridiculously cheap for what you get.

With the current meta however B-Wings have really been ousted. TLT's tear up B-Wings and there poor speed makes it difficult to control ranges in TLT donuts. Since TLT's arrived I hardly ever see them being played anymore.

The TLT era is almost over though, people have grown accustomed to playing against them, they aren't winning as often (in my regional area TLT's have ultra failed).

I might have argued for cost changes in early meta's, but as it is today I think B-Wings have become well adjusted to the rest of the game. I still think they are total beasts for the price, but there are many counters to them at this point.

B-WIngs are pretty much on the money, as BigKahuna says. I would say that Ibtisam and Ten Numb are overpriced for what you get - Ten's pilot abilty effectively costs 3 points, possibly the most expensive in the game, and is one which forces you to buy upgrades to actually get it to work more than once in every 3 shots - and his ability is totally irrelevant vs. low agility targets. Wedge is a whole 2 points cheaper, has one of the nastiest abilities in the game and has an extra point of PS.

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B-WINGS

Blue Squadron Pilot 22

Dagger Squadron Pilot 24

Nera Dantels 26

Ibtisam 28 - 27

Keyan Farlander 29

Ten Numb 31 - 30

Edited by Lampyridae

Hmmm. I'd be inclined to say they're a touch expensive.

If the dial was better I'd say that they would be okay. As mentioned the tlt really hurts the B-wing, so do Plasma Torpedoes (not that you see them that often, but if your meta has a lot of largeships they may be more common).

I think the title is cool as it opens up some options, but just makes it more if a points sink.

I think the named characters are too expensive, as again to really the most of them them you need to invest alot of points...

EDC

Why people keep saying TLT hurt B-Wing? When I play my 4BZ and I see 4 TLT on the other side, I am always happy because its gonna be an easy win.


Ibtisam and Ten Numb are 1 point too expensive.

Why people keep saying TLT hurt B-Wing? When I play my 4BZ and I see 4 TLT on the other side, I am always happy because its gonna be an easy win.

Ibtisam and Ten Numb are 1 point too expensive.

A really solid 4TLT player should be able to kite 4BZ to death and the B-wings just can't go fast enough to do anything about it. If the Y-wing player is silly enough to joust even once they are dead but they shouldn't even consider approaching head on.

B-WIngs are pretty much on the money, as BigKahuna says. I would say that Ibtisam and Ten Numb are overpriced for what you get - Ten's pilot abilty effectively costs 3 points, possibly the most expensive in the game...

Rhymer's costs 5 ;) Talk about being overpriced.

I'd go even further - all the named pilots' abilities cost 2-3 points (Ten's costs 3) and none seem groundbraking enough to cost more than 1 (Corran's and Soontir's cost 1 and they are god-level tier, so is Dash's).

You can't tool out the B-Wing ace pilots for maximum survavibility in the way that you can do it with Soontir, Jake or Corran, so a price decrease would be required to make them worth it.

So, for clarity:

B-WINGS

Blue Squadron Pilot 22

Dagger Squadron Pilot 24

Nera Dantels 26 - 25

Ibtisam 28 - 27

Keyan Farlander 29 - 28

Ten Numb 31 - 29

Or maybe even lower? Like I said, Keyan/Ten are no Soontir, they're not gonna stick around for long under any kind of focus fire.

Edited by Rojek

I'd drop each named pilot by a point:

Blue Squadron Pilot 22

Dagger Squadron Pilot 24

Nera Dantels 25

Ibtisam 26

Keyan Farlander 28

Ten Numb 29

But drop Ibtisam and Ten by 2 points. The problem with all the named B-wing pilots is that you really need upgrade cards to make them worthwhile. So before you know it they are north of 30 points quickly.

Why people keep saying TLT hurt B-Wing? When I play my 4BZ and I see 4 TLT on the other side, I am always happy because its gonna be an easy win.


Ibtisam and Ten Numb are 1 point too expensive.

Not when you mass B-wings like 4BZ. However, a B-wing or two in your list is straight fodder to TLTs. They usually can't close the distance quick enough to exploit the TLT's weakness (especially against Unhinged Ys). The TLT is nearly 2 auto-damage a turn to a B-wing. Just two TLTs can drop a B-wing in two turns. You really can't take a named B-wing pilot anymore because +30 points of your list is just going to die too quickly.

Edited by Jo Jo

the characters are greviously overcosted given the normal +2 Ps for +2 points

Blue Squadron Pilot (2) 22

Dagger Squadron Pilot (4) 24

Nera Dantels (5) 26 wrong

Ibtisam (6) 28 wrong

Keyan Farlander (7) 29 wrong

Ten Numb (8) 31 holy **** you've never been more wrong in your life

point costs should be

Blue Squadron Pilot 22

Dagger Squadron Pilot 24

Nera Dantels 25

Ibtisam 26

Keyan Farlander 27

Ten Numb 28

Thankfully FFG learned this in time for the misthunter

I think Nera is fine where she is. The ability to fire out of arc is worth 1 point, and comes with an EPT slot. Porkins has a zero point skill and that's because you can do damage to yourself. Nera's ability has no downside. The only problem is loading up with upgrades to actually get her ability to trigger and roll something better than a hit and an eyeball. Chimps, Plasma torps, extra munitions and tracers have all made it much easier and cheaper.