Advanced Sensors and Manoeuvre templates.

By Vordyn, in X-Wing Rules Questions

This came up in a game I played last night, MY IG-88b with Advanced Sensors ( which I didn't activate ) did a soft 3 bumping an opposing ship.

I knew I was planning a soft 3,but I then realised that maybe I would have been allowed to place the manoeuvre template to check for bumping as it is now the activation phase, then use a boost action to avoid the bump then do the maneuvre? or is this considered bad form ?

Edited by Vordyn

Some will consider ANYTHING that could be seen as "pre measuring" not only as "bad form" but as outright cheating! Placing the template on the table to check is pretty much the most extreme form of premeasuring out there. Guesstimating maneuvers with your hands anywhere close to your models is considered by some to be a capital offense so you should be able to immagine what using a template on the board would do.

As triggers before you reveal your maneuver dial. Once it is flipped, even vefore placing the template, your opportunity to boost is passed.

You simply need to judge before revealing the dial if you will bump.

Yeah I know I missed my opportunity to activate the sensors I was just wondering if i could potentially measure if I hadn't I'm happy to roll either way.

Yeah I know I missed my opportunity to activate the sensors I was just wondering if i could potentially measure if I hadn't I'm happy to roll either way.

By RAW, no, you can't measure until after you've had the chance to use (and used if you decide to, Advanced Sensors). In general, you can't measure before doing a manoeuvre at all, you choose it (either with your dial or via something like Navigator or Stay On Target), and you place the template down to do it, no chance to check if it'll fit before you execute it.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. Someone told me you only couldn't measure in the planning phase.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. Someone told me you only couldn't measure in the planning phase.

Nope

Not ever. Unless there's a reason such as declare target, measure for lone wolf.

Im friendly game, once youve made up your mind, you can likely lay down the template just to see if it would have bumped or not, but this is only for your own edication as youve already had to declare what you are doing.

If your boost doesnt fit, can you then forego advanced sensors and instead reveal your dial?

Im friendly game, once youve made up your mind, you can likely lay down the template just to see if it would have bumped or not, but this is only for your own edication as youve already had to declare what you are doing.

If your boost doesnt fit, can you then forego advanced sensors and instead reveal your dial?

Yes, or take another action with Advanced Sensors, I believe.

Im friendly game, once youve made up your mind, you can likely lay down the template just to see if it would have bumped or not, but this is only for your own edication as youve already had to declare what you are doing.

If your boost doesnt fit, can you then forego advanced sensors and instead reveal your dial?

Yes, or take another action with Advanced Sensors, I believe.

I wonder if declaring use of Advanced Sensors constitutes using the ability even if you ended up doing no action or if it requires you to use an action. I'm leaning to the latter, but I could see someone arguing for the former. (If the former it would mean losing your action this round)

If the boost or BR fails, you explicitly get the option to use a different action or not use an action at all, AdvSens says 'if you use this ability', not doing an action would not be using it regardless of whether you tried IMO. It would be silly for failing to boost with it to cost your action where it wouldn't in the action phase - but if it did, you could always just focus evade or TL instead.