Rogue squadron title for an x-wing is a gimme.

If we're going with Rogue One as Wave 9, Rogue squadron (according to current canon) wasn't formed until after A New Hope, so why is it a gimme?

No doubt I would love a Rogue Squadron title for the T-65, I'm just not following the logic.

Timeline is so jumbled now that who knows when the start of the rogues is in the new canon...

My reasoning is two-fold though.

1) They share a name. Tenuous link maybe but the closest I think we'll see unless an x-wing is part of some 'rebel vets' type expansion.

2) There is an x-wing in the promo shots with a black/white (I think) paintjob

Yeah I could definitely see Rogue One re-writing our perception of Rogue Squadron's history and then retcon that Red Squad in ANH was just a code name for Rogue or something...

Except new canon books and comics have Wedge and Luke continuing working together in Red Squadron after Yavin. Rogue Squadron doesn't exist until later.

Agreed that current canon has Rogue Squadron not created until after Yavin but you can't say there's no possibility for Rogue One to change that?

Rogue squadron title for an x-wing is a gimme.

If we're going with Rogue One as Wave 9, Rogue squadron (according to current canon) wasn't formed until after A New Hope, so why is it a gimme?

No doubt I would love a Rogue Squadron title for the T-65, I'm just not following the logic.

Timeline is so jumbled now that who knows when the start of the rogues is in the new canon...

My reasoning is two-fold though.

1) They share a name. Tenuous link maybe but the closest I think we'll see unless an x-wing is part of some 'rebel vets' type expansion.

2) There is an x-wing in the promo shots with a black/white (I think) paintjob

Yeah I could definitely see Rogue One re-writing our perception of Rogue Squadron's history and then retcon that Red Squad in ANH was just a code name for Rogue or something...

Except new canon books and comics have Wedge and Luke continuing working together in Red Squadron after Yavin. Rogue Squadron doesn't exist until later.

Agreed that current canon has Rogue Squadron not created until after Yavin but you can't say there's no possibility for Rogue One to change that?

Newly-appointed Red Leader Commander Narra asked Antilles and Skywalker to continue to fly with Red Squadron, while making it clear that neither of them should expect special treatment for surviving an encounter with the Death Star, even if they did destroy it, and the two accepted.

Why would Wedge and Luke continue in Red Squadron if the Rogues already existed?

EDIT: I'm not saying it's an impossibility, but it makes literally no sense for them retcon the Rogues into existing before Yavin.

Rogue squadron title for an x-wing is a gimme.

If we're going with Rogue One as Wave 9, Rogue squadron (according to current canon) wasn't formed until after A New Hope, so why is it a gimme?

No doubt I would love a Rogue Squadron title for the T-65, I'm just not following the logic.

Timeline is so jumbled now that who knows when the start of the rogues is in the new canon...

My reasoning is two-fold though.

1) They share a name. Tenuous link maybe but the closest I think we'll see unless an x-wing is part of some 'rebel vets' type expansion.

2) There is an x-wing in the promo shots with a black/white (I think) paintjob

Yeah I could definitely see Rogue One re-writing our perception of Rogue Squadron's history and then retcon that Red Squad in ANH was just a code name for Rogue or something...

Except new canon books and comics have Wedge and Luke continuing working together in Red Squadron after Yavin. Rogue Squadron doesn't exist until later.

Agreed that current canon has Rogue Squadron not created until after Yavin but you can't say there's no possibility for Rogue One to change that?

Newly-appointed Red Leader Commander Narra asked Antilles and Skywalker to continue to fly with Red Squadron, while making it clear that neither of them should expect special treatment for surviving an encounter with the Death Star, even if they did destroy it, and the two accepted.

Why would Wedge and Luke continue in Red Squadron if the Rogues already existed?

EDIT: I'm not saying it's an impossibility, but it makes literally no sense for them retcon the Rogues into existing before Yavin.

(Pure speculation) I'm saying, what if Rogue One reveals Red Squad is the Rogues, just under a new signature/changing squad names to avoid Imperial attention, etc. (insert story/fluff here).

I'd like to see Skiprays and another smuggler, maybe Talon Karrde and his "Wild Karrde" ship

Pulsar skate!!!!

Pulsar skate is difficult since it has 2 vastly different looking versions.

T-wing is another problematic ship. It's a rebel designed ship that they found didn't fit the rebel fleet operationally, so they sold it to 3rd parties (scum) and channeled profits into other resources ie a b x & y-wings.

The t-wings have no known named pilots. The nami pirate Ali terrek (who flew a tie defender) could be roped in here but I can't think of anyone else. Maybe one of the x-wing PC game series pilots flew one I'm not sure. The ship is interesting however. I can see it with an awing's stats, something like the defenders dial and able to load torpedoes instead of missiles.

The starchaser is almost certain to be a scum ship. Rebels only used it in worst case situations and it's been stated that they were phased out by the rebel cells once the x-wing was available. There are at least 2 known users of the ship (both scum). I see it as having a z95 stats, with a scyk/kihraxz dial and a canon in addition to missiles.

Maybe they'll have Gunboats in Rogue One! It could happen!

But really, the Imperial Ship will be a TIE variant, scum will be the scurrg or something, and the Rebels will be something they managed to scrape from the bottom of the Rebel barrel. Maybe something from Rogue One or TFA.

It will be interesting to see how FFG approaches the use of the X-wing in the future. I assume it will see some screen time in Rogue One, and that calls, yet again, for an X-wing release.

I originally wasn't very fond of the idea of having a ton of X-wing releases, whether new ships or new pilots, but the more I think about it, the more I realize that if there are any ships there should be multiples of, it's the X-wing and the Tie Fighter.

An X-wing is currently included in both core sets, 2 individual expansions, and an epic expansion. I honestly see it coming out yet again in Rebel Veterans alongside an E-wing, and possibly a new X-wing ship type in a Rogue One themed release, whether as a wave release or something else. That's a lot of X-wings, but as has been mentioned, that's the name of the game.

The Tie Fighter is a similar case (including Tie/Fo as a tie fighter in this case). It's included in both core sets, 2 individual expansions, and an epic expansion. I assume we are a wave away from seeing the Special Forces Tie, which will give us 3 versions of a Tie Fighter. I think at that point, they will be pretty well represented, but the Tie Fighter design is so classic, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets called on again.

I think we are a few waves away from getting the level of X-wing and Tie Fighter play this game (and the Star Wars universe) deserves.

I just want a skipray. If I get one Im happy.

I think they're gunna start to struggle for rebel ships soon though unless the films/comics start showing some new stuff.

My guess is Wave 10 will have the Rebel Vets pack. Something to help "fix" X-wings since T-70 are just better right now. With Rouge One being all bout dat X-wing it would seem fitting to include one in pack or drop in some upgrades/titles to get them up to snuff with all the others.

I don't mean to jump all over you in particular, since you're not even the first person in the thread to say this. But our first "Aces" pack came between waves 3 and 4, the second came between waves 4 and 5, and the third is apparently scheduled for some time between waves 8 and 9. So why is it likely that they'll shift strategies with "Rebel Veterans"?

Rogue squadron title for an x-wing is a gimme.

If we're going with Rogue One as Wave 9, Rogue squadron (according to current canon) wasn't formed until after A New Hope, so why is it a gimme?

No doubt I would love a Rogue Squadron title for the T-65, I'm just not following the logic.

Timeline is so jumbled now that who knows when the start of the rogues is in the new canon...

My reasoning is two-fold though.

1) They share a name. Tenuous link maybe but the closest I think we'll see unless an x-wing is part of some 'rebel vets' type expansion.

2) There is an x-wing in the promo shots with a black/white (I think) paintjob

Yeah I could definitely see Rogue One re-writing our perception of Rogue Squadron's history and then retcon that Red Squad in ANH was just a code name for Rogue or something...

Except new canon books and comics have Wedge and Luke continuing working together in Red Squadron after Yavin. Rogue Squadron doesn't exist until later.

Agreed that current canon has Rogue Squadron not created until after Yavin but you can't say there's no possibility for Rogue One to change that?

Newly-appointed Red Leader Commander Narra asked Antilles and Skywalker to continue to fly with Red Squadron, while making it clear that neither of them should expect special treatment for surviving an encounter with the Death Star, even if they did destroy it, and the two accepted.

Why would Wedge and Luke continue in Red Squadron if the Rogues already existed?

EDIT: I'm not saying it's an impossibility, but it makes literally no sense for them retcon the Rogues into existing before Yavin.

(Pure speculation) I'm saying, what if Rogue One reveals Red Squad is the Rogues, just under a new signature/changing squad names to avoid Imperial attention, etc. (insert story/fluff here).

My theory: Rogue squadron (movie rogue one) are involved in stealing the original death star plans but suffer catastrophic losses/ are wiped out in the process, maybe barring a lone survivor or two. Luke and Wedge form a new elite squadron between yavin and hoth, at which point they decide to honour the rogues/ make use of propaganda by naming their new squadron the rogue squadron.

My theory: Rogue squadron (movie rogue one) are involved in stealing the original death star plans but suffer catastrophic losses/ are wiped out in the process, maybe barring a lone survivor or two. Luke and Wedge form a new elite squadron between yavin and hoth, at which point they decide to honour the rogues/ make use of propaganda by naming their new squadron the rogue squadron.

I had similar thoughts, I just couldn't piece a plausible timeline together in my head. (Why not immediately honor the name of those who died to secure the Death Star plans, with the very squadron assigned to act on those Death Star plans?)

My guess is Wave 10 will have the Rebel Vets pack. Something to help "fix" X-wings since T-70 are just better right now. With Rouge One being all bout dat X-wing it would seem fitting to include one in pack or drop in some upgrades/titles to get them up to snuff with all the others.

I don't mean to jump all over you in particular, since you're not even the first person in the thread to say this. But our first "Aces" pack came between waves 3 and 4, the second came between waves 4 and 5, and the third is apparently scheduled for some time between waves 8 and 9. So why is it likely that they'll shift strategies with "Rebel Veterans"?

In the wave between the wave whatever fits the movie release more promptly, I think that 'in-between strategy' is something they would more than willing to flex on for promotional tie-in purposes like they 'staggered' Wave VIII for FA stuff. I was more on the side of it focusing on the OG x-wing then the official placement of the reb vets is all.

I can't see them doing a full wave based on Rouge One. It's way more likely that it'll be snuck into a big pack or as a mid wave release like the FA stuff was. The only new thing we know of is a TIE variant and I really don't think they would try to sell another xwing blister so anything like would have to come in a pack or another ship altogether.

I can't see them doing a full wave based on Rouge One. It's way more likely that it'll be snuck into a big pack or as a mid wave release like the FA stuff was. The only new thing we know of is a TIE variant and I really don't think they would try to sell another xwing blister so anything like would have to come in a pack or another ship altogether.

Agreed - dependent on what the film gives us, of course.

I mean I expect X's and Ys, and standard TIEs with maybe a new bit of kit either side... 2-3 new ships tops would be my guess.