Wave 10: Let Us Make Some Intelligent Speculation

By PaulTiberius, in X-Wing

So Alex Davy said in that podcast today that Wave 9 is done, and Wave 10 is being worked on. He also essentially told us to expect ships from Rogue One eventually. Furthermore, he said he knows more about the Rogue One movie now than he knew about TFA when the new Core Set was being developed.

Given expected release schedules, I think it's safe to bet that Wave 10 will be either targeted for a late 2016 release (around the time of Rogue One's premiere) or at least well into the hype/spoiler cycle at that time.

So what I really want to do here is just assume Wave 10 will be Rogue One centered, and entertain the community's thoughts on what kinds of ships we might get based on that movie. I personally feel that we will (or at least should) see things that "feel" like precursors or prototypes of what was on screen in ANH. Plus, I expect the movie will involve some kind of raiding party action scenes, bringing the necessity of crew-carrying landing ships. So here are a couple of starting ideas:

X-Wing: we've seen the promo images of the full scale filming prop. I wonder, is there room in the lore for a pre-T-65 fighter? Seems a prime opportunity to at least introduce a cost-reducing title for the X-wing (I know, not very creative of me) if not an outright new model.

Imperial Shuttle: I know there's a name for that tri-winged landing craft that was inserted into the ANH Special Edition, but it escapes me. Seems like a good ship for staging a raid to steal the Death Star plans, as well as introduce a cross-faction "stolen ship" title. Something that could finally allow me to fly a Shuttle Tyderium with Han and Luke crew!

Scum Freighter: you know there's got to be a Han Solo type character. What kind of smuggler's schemes must be necessary to engineer the theft of Imperial super weapon plans? Any ideas on what niche needs to be filled for the Scum faction?

These aren't super creative thoughts so far I admit. But I like the idea of speculating with clear structure based on a story we know is coming, and that we ought to be able to intelligently guess it's major beats.

Looking forward to hearing some ideas.

Rogue squadron title for an x-wing is a gimme.

It will come out after Wave 9 :P.

Sorry but how can we make any speculations on Wave 10 when there still is no (public) information on Wave 9. We got the between wave release the Imperial Veterans. But as far as Wave 9 we don't know anything. It could have more ships from Rebels or even those small but unused ships from Episode 7. :mellow:

One wave at a time please. ^_^

Intelligent? K

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Rogue squadron title for an x-wing is a gimme.

If we're going with Rogue One as Wave 9, Rogue squadron (according to current canon) wasn't formed until after A New Hope, so why is it a gimme?

No doubt I would love a Rogue Squadron title for the T-65, I'm just not following the logic.

You will be lucky if it's out precisely one year from now. I would think Wave 9, whatever it is, is probably out around the end of the year and I think it is likely that it has some Rogue One tie-in.

I would hope that we get another "veterans" type bundle for the Scum. The Scyk and Starviper are in dire need of some attention.

IT was revealed... somewhere... that Rogue One will have YET ANOTHER brand new tie varient. The source is quoted as saying "I think the fans will like this one", but confirmed it was not anything from the EU.

Rogue squadron title for an x-wing is a gimme.

I've been thinking that since Wave 2 introduced the concept of titles. I've been wrong thus far...

I wouldn't be surprised if our Rogue One tie in isn't a "Rebel Veterans" pack with a T-65 and a Y-wing with pilots from the movie. Could be a different ship if they're in the movie but who knows exactly what we'll see yet. I don't think we need another way to get a T-65 but almost guaranteed to be in that movie.

Keep in mind that Force Awakens release had been pushed back and that is why all the toys came out first.

Therefore with my unscientific and totally pulling this out of my posterior....

I would suspect that Wave 10 if based on Rogue One would come out after Christmas and considering that it will be Store Champion Tournament time I would hazard a guess that it would be April time-frame.

Turn around, with the time difference between Wave 8 intro, the release of the previews, and the fact not in stores yet I would guess that would line up around the same release time.

So where does that leave WAVE 9? October in stores, a month before Worlds? That gives 6 months of talking and previews generating hype, April to September, right after Nationals?

.....and while predicting....I will go with an Epic Scum and Villainy ship with a Syck upgrade that will rock!!! Either 4 or 6 included like the TIE Advance

IT was revealed... somewhere... that Rogue One will have YET ANOTHER brand new tie varient. The source is quoted as saying "I think the fans will like this one", but confirmed it was not anything from the EU.

http://imgur.com/gallery/IbOYE ?

I just assumed that the Rogue One expansion pack would be an aces pack with 2 repainted X-wings (in the new black stripe scheme from the movie, probably another scheme for the second), plus a bunch of X-wing fixes. Integrated Astromech was probably designed as one of those fixes, then dropped in the T-70 pack because it was safe for T-70s to take it too. I wouldn't be surprised to see more copies of Intregrated Astromech in this hypothetical aces pack.

I also assumed it would be another secret pre-movie tie-in premiering sometime in December. It probably won't be synchronized well with the normal waves, much like how the blue core set and individual packs were supposed to be part of Wave 8, but suddenly dropped a month or two after Wave 7 and at least 2 months before Wave 8. I expect Wave 9 to be announced shortly after Wave 8 releases after the heat death of the universe, and to release about 9 months after that.

TIE Avenger and Assault Gunboat.

TIE Avenger and Assault Gunboat.

Intelligent discussion. People have said this since Wave 3-4 and none of those people have been even remotely correct thus far. Given an influx of new material from the movies and assorted media, given what we've seen thus far of FFG's thinking, and with new movies on the way, a TIE Avenger and a Gunboat is an effective impossibility. FFG would be insane to release either of those ships when they have new ships incoming directly from Disney.

And i'm not shedding any tears over that, either.

The TIE Avenger and the Assault Gunboat are /objectively/ the coolest ships.

Look, I've said it before, and I am going to say it again...... FFG loves to use its art in multiple games. For example, the new RAGE card is the same as the standard Bossk card for Armada. Whisper's art is used in Age of Rebellion. Card art for other things are also in the Star Wars LCG as well as the various artwork and pictures in the RPG books.

Basically, look at what has been done, get an idea there. For example, they have several pictures for the Cloakshape Fighter. Also, they have stated that a fix for X-Wings was in the works (Rebel Veterans?) as well as for the StarViper and Syck (Scum Aces?).

TIE Avenger and Assault Gunboat.

This guy gets it.

TIE Avenger and Assault Gunboat.

Intelligent discussion. People have said this since Wave 3-4 and none of those people have been even remotely correct thus far. Given an influx of new material from the movies and assorted media, given what we've seen thus far of FFG's thinking, and with new movies on the way, a TIE Avenger and a Gunboat is an effective impossibility.

This guy does not.

I'm gonna go with the out of left field idea.

Zann pilots for scum. Maybe a Skipray too.

What Podcast was this in please?

I dont think Rogue One takes place far enough before ANH for a pre T-65 to make sense. In ANH the T-65 was already outdated.

Look, I've said it before, and I am going to say it again...... FFG loves to use its art in multiple games. For example, the new RAGE card is the same as the standard Bossk card for Armada. Whisper's art is used in Age of Rebellion. Card art for other things are also in the Star Wars LCG as well as the various artwork and pictures in the RPG books.

Basically, look at what has been done, get an idea there. For example, they have several pictures for the Cloakshape Fighter. Also, they have stated that a fix for X-Wings was in the works (Rebel Veterans?) as well as for the StarViper and Syck (Scum Aces?).

OK. Here's some official FFG artwork:

assault-gunboat-xg-4_1.jpg

A 2017 Q1 regular release like W8 is most likely with a small Rogue One release in Dec when the film is screened is my guess for the release date.

This allows ffg to provide previews for the regular release like they did in the past to drum up hype; at the same time maintian confidentiality of the Rogue One releases. If I'm not wrong W9 could see scum catching up with Imp/Rebels at least in ship type count. We could see smaller regular waves and larger movie new disney canon waves going forward.

@ the OP, the 3 winged landing craft that wasn't a lambda shuttle was probably a Sentinel Class Landing Craft

I'm just excited by the strong implication that there are new ships in Rogue One, given how few there were in TFA.