Since we don't have a cool font (yet) and may want to write in formats that don't support picture imports, i thought it would be helpful to standardize a notation for the various dice so that scenario writers could easily reference them. Hence forth, this will be known as 'Nez Notation'

The symbol includes the basic shape of the dice as well as a letter to indicate the color for quick 'at a glance' reading:

[W] = White, 6 sided fortune dice
= Black, 6 sided Misfortune dice (or [bK])
[Y] = Yellow, 6 sided Expertise dice
<P> = Purple, 8 sided Challenge Dice
<B> = Blue, 8 sided Characteristic Dice (or <BU>)
(G) = Green, 10 sided Conservative Dice
® = Red, 10 sided Reckless Dice

[N], <N>, and (N) for blanks. 'N' stands for 'Nothing'. I use that rather than 'B' for 'Blank' so as not to conflict with Blue and Black. This is just an alternate way of saying, for example, {N} (the blank face of a negative die)
[0], <0>, or (0) are 'no dice', or in the case of (0) could also mean you dropped the soap in the shower. For example: 'A Simple Challenge is <0>'

For the symbols { } are negative effects and * * are positive and neutral effects:

{C} = Challenge
{B} = Bane
{S} = Chaos Star
{D} = Delay
{E} = Exertion
{N} = Nothing (Blank)

-and-

*S* = Success
*R* = Righteous Success
*N* = Nothing (Blank)
*B* = Boon
*C* = Comet
Multiples could be notated together. For example, 3 hammers (or 'successes') would be written *SSS*.

For die faces with mixed/multiple symbols, you would have:
Success *S* + Exertion {E} = *SE}
Success + Delay = *SD}
Success + Boon = *SB*

Just a thought.

Edit: It might be nice to add the color letter to all dice notation, even the nice colored ones, for the slightly color blind folk

Nez notation. I like that. I hereby second the motion. The motion passes. Let it be recorded that Nez Notation is now part of the system.

Jay

Just for review/reference from: www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp

Challenge (VIOLETT; porph)

Characteristic (blau; irtyu)

Conservative (grün; wahdj)

Reckless (ROT; deshr)

Expertise (gelb färben; khenet)

Fortune (weiß; hedj)

Misfortune (schwarz; Kem)

..

Excellent, NezziR! I like Nez Notation!

I want to give that a shot (putting colored text).

How do you convert the posting window into HTML editing mode?

I once found it on the SUpport forum, but I can't seem to find it again.

I think that you had to hit "shift+Tab" or something.

Addendum:

[0], <0>, or (0) are 'no dice', or in the case of (0) could also mean you dropped the soap in the shower.

Maybe the board could look to creating a few simple smileys of dice shapes and colours and maybe some icon ones as well.

Nez Notation sounds like a magical spell.

But I like it.

I guess we also need to add [N], <N>, and (N) for blanks. 'N' stands for 'Nothing'. I use that rather than 'B' so as not to conflict with Blue and Black.

Well Nezz, I think about adding it to Dice Roller, but I will need to focus on the dice face (that can have more than one symbol, and even from good and the bad side at the same time - like success, and exhaustion) instead of focusing on a symbol itself. Without it I may be unable to make a use of it.

I think of mechanism that allows to take an input string in Nez Notation, and translate it into pool of dice, or pool of dice with already chosen faces. The same mechanism will allow to convert a roll outcome into the Nez Notation.

Help me here .

The notation, according to the current system, for Success+Exertion would be:

Success *S* + Exertion {E} = *SE}

Nez Notation is very flexible! Same for the other combo symbols.

Success + Boon = *SB*

Success + Delay = *SD}

Idea for future expansion to Sunatet's awesome die roller:

You could add a 'dice pool builder'

Add fields like this:

• Strength or Toughness <B>:
• Weapons or Ballistic Skill trained (Y)?
• Conservative (G):
• Reckless ®:
• Fortune Spent [W]:
• Difficulty <P>:
• Targets Defense :

Then, you could allow them to enter a single digit integer into each field. Then, you could build the pool from the entries and export the results to the roll field with a [build] button.

You could also do something similar with damage rolls (with a bit of thought).

NezziR said:

Thanks Nezz

NezziR said:

Nice idea, I will modify it a bit (like adding buttons to add more than one die of the same type at one click) and add to DR

Phew...

NezNotation added .

Check it out and tell me if it is ok .

Nice Sunatet, although the colors on the left hand side buttons look wonky in Firefox!

Necrozius said:

I had to google the "wonky" word .

I'm not an artist, but the colors looks good to me (and I'm using firefox).

Right now they are as follows:

challenge
border: #76439a;
background: #76439a;
challenge:hover
border: #76439a;
background: #9876bc;

characteristic
border: #4470b7;
background: #4470b7;
characteristic:hover
border: #4470b7;
background: #6692d9;

conservative
border: #0c8642;
background: #0c8642;
conservative:hover
border: #0c8642;
background: #2ea864;

reckless
border: #941a1d;
background: #941a1d;
reckless:hover
border: #941a1d;
background: #b63c3f;

expertise
border: #d2ca24;
background: #f4ec46;
expertise:hover
border: #d2ca24;
background: #f6ff68;

fortune
border: #999;
background: #fff;
fortune:hover
border: #777;
background: #eee;

misfortune
border: #000;
background: #000;
misfortune:hover
border: #000;
background: #333;

I can change them, but I need the color codes

Oh no the colors themselves are fine, its the visual structure.

Firefox has a weird way of handling divs. You pretty much have to specify the height of objects.

See:

Sunatet said:

Ahahaha! That's awesome dude!

Sample Output: <B>{N}<B>*S*(G)*SB*<P>{B}{C}

May want to fix it so you don't have to add the face to put a string in, maybe have it default to [N], <N>, or (N)

That way, you could paste a string in and have it build the pool. Then, when you roll, it changes the string to reflect the faces (Edit: I see it already does this part).

Again, that's awesome!

Edit: The colors look the same as listed above in Google Chrome.

Off to bed - night all.

Necrozius said:

Oh that, I think I know the problem, try empty cache, and reload the page by clicking Refresh button in Your browser, should help .

I added a new classes in style files, and it looks like Your FF did not refresh them.

That fixed it for me.

Changed, so You can add dice only .

So <B><B>(G)<P> for example is accepted from now on .

NezziR said:

Ditto. Very nice.

As much as I like the NezNotation, it's taking me a while to read stuff like: <B>{N}<B>*S*(G)*SB*<P>{B}{C}.

Looks like Chemistry equations.

Necrozius said:

I think it's more for cut/paste jobs to test rolls from posts and modules. Hell, I wrote and I have to squint at it to read it

Sunatet said:

Awesome!

<B><B> worked, but <BB> didn't. That shouldn't be a problem though. <BB> or <BBB> would be a symbol for 2x<B> of 3x<B>.

"Go get her Ray!"

I see the game itself has those little symbols with the color of the die. Hopefully they can get something like that on the smilies of these forums (like they did for the D&D 4e symbols on the Enworld site).

jh