Tycho rage vs standard soontir

By force kin, in X-Wing

I think this is what I'm most anticipating for the new releases.

For 35 points, the same price as a kitted out fel, we get a kitted out tycho:

Title

Ptl

Rage

Thrusters

Prockets

How do they match up?

Soontir has 1 more green die, 1 more red die, 1 higher pilot skill, barrel roll and the ability to k turn (with a free focus when he does)

Tycho gets 1 more total hit point,2 of which are shields, access to his whole dial while stressed (except k turns, which he can essentially never use), rerolls on his attacks and a one time five dice range one shot (which is only one dice more than soontirs regular range one attack, though tycho does get rerolls)

Seems like soontir is still quitea a bit better.

Is there a better way to run tycho? Strip the Prockets off for a 30 point version? Exchange Ptl for vi to make him a soontir-killer?

It seems the absence of barrel roll and only veing ps8 hamstrings tycho. He doesn't hit hard enough at 30 points abd at 35 points he doesn't have the post maneuver adjustments to make him a real flanking threat.

Am I missing something? Maybe it isn't fair yo compare him to fel,one of the strongest aces in the game, but I think a ps10 regenerating poe is quite a bit stronger than Rage tycho for similar points.

Thoughts?

Soontir has 1 more green die, 1 more red die, 1 higher pilot skill, barrel roll and the ability to k turn (with a free focus when he does)

I would not count the ability to k-turn as a point in soontir's favor. He's almost always stressed, meaning no k-turn (I would know. Idiot that I am, I tried to k-turn while stressed in 2 different games in the same tournament. In my defense, it was practically my first time flying him).

I once filmed a game very slimmer to this. have not uploaded it but I can tell you this match up is the very definition of boring dance

I think this is what I'm most anticipating for the new releases.

For 35 points, the same price as a kitted out fel, we get a kitted out tycho:

Title

Ptl

Rage

Thrusters

Prockets

How do they match up?

Soontir has 1 more green die, 1 more red die, 1 higher pilot skill, barrel roll and the ability to k turn (with a free focus when he does)

Tycho gets 1 more total hit point,2 of which are shields, access to his whole dial while stressed (except k turns, which he can essentially never use), rerolls on his attacks and a one time five dice range one shot (which is only one dice more than soontirs regular range one attack, though tycho does get rerolls)

Seems like soontir is still quitea a bit better.

Is there a better way to run tycho? Strip the Prockets off for a 30 point version? Exchange Ptl for vi to make him a soontir-killer?

It seems the absence of barrel roll and only veing ps8 hamstrings tycho. He doesn't hit hard enough at 30 points abd at 35 points he doesn't have the post maneuver adjustments to make him a real flanking threat.

Am I missing something? Maybe it isn't fair yo compare him to fel,one of the strongest aces in the game, but I think a ps10 regenerating poe is quite a bit stronger than Rage tycho for similar points.

Thoughts?

Both get "3" actions (counting the Rage re-rolls as a Target Lock).

​Fel has +1 attack

​Tycho has +1 HP, and MUCH better mobility. Also Prockets for some reason.

And, of course, there's a few more notes:

Tycho is a Rebel, while Fel is Imperial. That means that they get to fly with different support.

Tycho is only PS8.

Lemme tell you: I much prefer PS10 for catching soontir. Therefore... NO RAGE.

Second, soontir is darn hard to hit anyway... so you're likely looking to need Proton Rockets.

Third, no Barrel Roll sucks. Take Jake Farrell, PS9 with VI, Prockets and a 2 point initiative bid. Then learn to play better than your opponent.

Both are good. Consider that Fel is quite succeptable to auto damage and crits also and exspecially additional stress! More fragile, more firepower.

Lemme tell you: I much prefer PS10 for catching soontir. Therefore... NO RAGE.

Second, soontir is darn hard to hit anyway... so you're likely looking to need Proton Rockets.

Third, no Barrel Roll sucks. Take Jake Farrell, PS9 with VI, Prockets and a 2 point initiative bid. Then learn to play better than your opponent.

This. Jake just flies that much smoother than Tycho. Even in a stress meta Jake is all-around the superior option.

If you still want to run Tycho give him PS10, PS8 is the worst place to be right now.

Also once you put 20+ into an awing you should almost automatically put a procket on the ship otherwise they lack the punch compared to points invested.

Edited by Celes