Negative Point Upgrades & Theme List Bonuses

By azrael1415, in Imperial Assault Skirmish

We've seen it in X-Wing, but what are the odds we may see unit/character-specific skirmish upgrades that are free or that discount a unit's cost (e.g. TIEx7 title for Defenders in X-Wing), but removes particular abilities to place the unit in a more narrow role?

What units do you think are overcosted? What would an upgrade like this need to have to make it more viable for you to field?

Also, I'm surprised the FFG games have never adopted any kind of theme list rewards (think Theme Lists in Warmachine). Maybe skirmish upgrades that grant list-building or maybe global ability bonuses based on taking small combinations of units that aren't typically seen together in a meta, but make thematic sense.

Who do you think should be seen on a battlefield together, but you never actually do? What would be reasonable advantages to taking that combination?

Thoughts?

Edited by Azrael1415

I like the concept. Maybe something like "Deathmark" that can be put on a Unique Smuggler (if you REALLY want to limit it...aiming for Han Solo here, especially). -2 points, Unique Attachment, Effect: Hmmmm...that's the trick. Maybe the character is worth additional victory points like a bounty?

Life debt, -3 pts, you can only take this upgrade if you have Han and Chewbacca in your army. After activating one of them, you may activate the other

And something similar for Luke and Leia.

Maybe some bonuses if you bring a list with only smugglers and spies, or troopers and a leader or something like that.

Maybe some bonuses if you bring a list with only smugglers and spies, or troopers and a leader or something like that.

•Squad Leader

Attachment

0 points

Kayn Somos Only

You may not take this attachment if there are any other Leaders in your Army.

At the end of each round, Kayn Somos may interrupt to perform an attack or ->Firing Squad.

Making Kayn the uncontested leader of his troops (no confusion with others trying to Order his men around) makes his Command more effective. You have to give up the officer to get up to 2 free attacks per turn.

Life debt, -3 pts, you can only take this upgrade if you have Han and Chewbacca in your army. After activating one of them, you may activate the other

And something similar for Luke and Leia.

No, Leia already has that basically built in.

Synergy:

Skirmish Upgrade

Faction Independent

Cost: -3 points

You may only equip this card if each group in your army shares a keyword.

Synergy:

Skirmish Upgrade

Faction Independent

Cost: -3 points

You may only equip this card if each group in your army shares a keyword.

I like that! Then I would have 3 points to blow on hats!

The recently announced Lando figure pack appears (based on reading fuzzy text) to have a skirmish upgrade that costs 0 and requires you to have all unique units in your squad (it gives you some sort of command card related bonus). So not negative but similar idea to what you all were thinking.

cool. :)

Well I think 'negative points cost things' and 'theme/synergy rewards' are two very different things.

I definitely see the need for the former - in order to make some of the game's early unique characters more playable (they've learnt their lesson - with Bossk, Blaise and Lando all looking pretty good for their points costs, compared to over costed stuff like Kayn, Han etc)

But in order for theme to essentially be heavy handed errata, they'd have to have some interesting rules text on their. I'm not sure what that would be.

I don't really see the need for the 'theme/synergy reward' idea - because with Command Cards and traits we've kind of already got that in the game.