I would like to see several things in the Rebel Veteran's Pack (if it comes out). I would like to see it have Rey as a YT-1300 Elite Pilot. Jess Pava, and "Snap" Wexley would be some others I would like to see (T-70). I was thinking the Rebel Veterans could feature 2 models, and a bunch of cards to fix older ships such as the T-65 X-Wing and the E-Wing (through title cards). If you want a Scum thing I was thinking you could somehow put Bala-Tik, Kanjiklub, or Tasu Leech in the game (through a crew or a pilot).

I am not sure on Rey's Pilot Ability, however I can come up with something for "Snap" and Jess.

Because "Snap" is the best Recon, I was thinking he could have an updated version of Garvin's Ability. Whenever he performs a Focus action, he may assign 1 additional focus to an ally in Range 1. Or he could reduce the Agility of the target by 1 (that applies to his shots and his allies). Knowing the enemy numbers, and what their weaknesses are, is his job.

For Jess, she is all about legends and stories. Her Pilot ability can be similar to Mauler Mithel. She can increase her Attack Damage by 1 when at Range 1. This only works if Luke, Poe, Wedge, or "Snap" is in the squad. The other idea I had was to give her the ability to turn 1 blank defense dice in to an Evade. It would make sense.. She spends the time learning how the other Pilots flew, so she would learn evasive maneuvers.

I already did the final revisions of my ideas (to fix the T-65 and E-Wing) based on the communities votes here.

Jess

Snap Wexley

Bala-Tik

Kanjiklub

Tasu Leech

which other ships you think need a fix when talking about the Rebels?

E-wings seem to be underwhelming apart from Corran himself so I would not be surprised to see that in there.

As, Ys, Bs and K-wings seem to have their respective niches and perform solidly. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Yes I forgot about the E-Wings. Its all Corran only. But Corran is so strong that you need to find a fix that won't make him better. I think this is tricky.

You mean like Darth Vader before the X/1 fix?

As if you could compare Vader with Corran.

Yes I forgot about the E-Wings. Its all Corran only. But Corran is so strong that you need to find a fix that won't make him better. I think this is tricky.

You mean like Darth Vader before the X/1 fix?

Darth Vader before the X/1 fix was not one of the best pilots in the game.

Corran combined with R2-D2 absolutely is one of the best pilots in the game right now.

Yes I forgot about the E-Wings. Its all Corran only. But Corran is so strong that you need to find a fix that won't make him better. I think this is tricky.

You mean like Darth Vader before the X/1 fix?

Darth Vader before the X/1 fix was not one of the best pilots in the game.

Corran combined with R2-D2 absolutely is one of the best pilots in the game right now.

Which is why I feel the "Ewing fix" will keep corran from taking R2D2, in exchange for nice bonuses.

What if they just threw in a pair of IAs without an x-wing repaint? The x-wing already has an alt paint job and enough pilots.

An Ewing upgrade could be done safely with a reverse Virago type upgrade without breaking horn.

The hwk could use a higher PS nonunique pilot and a new paint job. Maybe a dual faction non unique pilot like a gunrunner and a pair of new rebel pilots.

I don't think "Rebel Veterans" will need to be a fix for anything.

I predict we'll see a T-65 X-Wing and a Y-Wing.

The Y-Wing will include more named Rebel pilots (with EPTs) and the BTL-S3 Title granting a crew slot to the ship. Not to fix anything, mind you. Just because it should have a crew slot option. I would further say this title is 0 points and does not remove anything from the craft as is (but that's just me). I know some people will worry about Turret plus Astromech plus Crew on the same ship. OH WELL is my well phrased rebuttal.

This will make it even more versatile, something like the TIE Shuttle upcoming.

I don't think we need anything for the HWK. It was always supposed to be a minor league support ship. I personally don't like the E-Wing, so I hope to not see it in this set.

What about a droid that's adds the boost action and is cheaper then EU, say 2 points.

It gives the E, X, and Y a jump in manoverability but does limit the power jump for Corran.

I'd be fine with a Wedge, IA, boosting astro, and predator.

I'd welcome any "fix" for the 65 or the E because both of those ships are my fav to fly

I think the Rebel Veterans pack will be tied into Rogue One... which is releasing next November. I'd like to see Y-Wings and HWK's, but it'll be closely tied to the ships we actually see in the movie. (X-Wing with black chevron).

I think we will see a Scum Aces or Veterans pack too. I'd expect to see a Scyk and StarViper in there.

I found this in the net and instantly thought:

Why shouldn't the best Black Sun pilot be in a StarViper?? Its only natural:

theres no reaction image for the feelings this gives me. in my pants.

What about a droid that's adds the boost action and is cheaper then EU, say 2 points.

It gives the E, X, and Y a jump in manoverability but does limit the power jump for Corran.

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I'd welcome any "fix" for the 65 or the E because both of those ships are my fav to fly

Not much of a boost at least for the X-Wing. Two more points and you've got the T-70 with its additional shield and better dial. Most of the named X-Wing pilots already have prefered droids to fly with.

Could be 2 e wings like imperial aces. Could also include a number of droids to "fix" x wing and y wing.

This. I want this.

Luke in an E-wing,

A consideration that we overlook due to our fandom at times. 99.99% of SW fans recognise Luke in an X-Wing. It is one of those many things that are iconically SW. That small remaining fraction have read the relevant EU material to appreciate other alternatives.

I argue that FFG has to make these considerations when designing the game. They have to keep enough iconic SW on the table to ensure that it remains 'Star Warsy' for those that that haven't read every comic or book, played every game, scoured the wiki, attended conventions, etc.

Accordingly, we will not see Luke in an E-Wing. If we do see an E-Wing in an Aces Pack it will be with characters drawn from the EU or fabricated.

I don't follow this logic. The game is filled with pilots, ships, and upgrade cards from a plethora of sources, many of which fall into the obscure "un-Star Warsy" (for some people) category. They're here, and they keep getting released wave after wave.

Luke in an E-wing is a no-brainer: his R7 unit is already in the game, it's a ship he flew in the old canon, and his ability would be quite nice behind three agility. Might see a bit more use than Poe at that point.

Similar argument goes for the twins... in X-wing the EU isn't dead, it's just part of the Ultimate Showdown where Biggs is alive, and Miranda and Poe can fly in the same squadron. Will we see them? Who knows? But this weird idea that the X-wing team is going to stop plumbing the vast resources of the EU (and the Disneyverse) is absurd.

Luke in an E-wing,

A consideration that we overlook due to our fandom at times. 99.99% of SW fans recognise Luke in an X-Wing. It is one of those many things that are iconically SW. That small remaining fraction have read the relevant EU material to appreciate other alternatives.

I argue that FFG has to make these considerations when designing the game. They have to keep enough iconic SW on the table to ensure that it remains 'Star Warsy' for those that that haven't read every comic or book, played every game, scoured the wiki, attended conventions, etc.

Accordingly, we will not see Luke in an E-Wing. If we do see an E-Wing in an Aces Pack it will be with characters drawn from the EU or fabricated.

I don't follow this logic. The game is filled with pilots, ships, and upgrade cards from a plethora of sources, many of which fall into the obscure "un-Star Warsy" (for some people) category. They're here, and they keep getting released wave after wave.

Luke in an E-wing is a no-brainer: his R7 unit is already in the game, it's a ship he flew in the old canon, and his ability would be quite nice behind three agility. Might see a bit more use than Poe at that point.

Similar argument goes for the twins... in X-wing the EU isn't dead, it's just part of the Ultimate Showdown where Biggs is alive, and Miranda and Poe can fly in the same squadron. Will we see them? Who knows? But this weird idea that the X-wing team is going to stop plumbing the vast resources of the EU (and the Disneyverse) is absurd.

Apologies, there has been a miscommunication .. or you saw a few key words and jumped to your own conclusions.

I completely understand that FFG is sourcing the EU for material, and (despite my lack of interest in the EU) appreciate that they do this. I know there are a lot of fans out there that have some favourite pieces from the expanded universe. It also adds a lot more depth to the game than the OT alone can.

My point was that some elements of SW are iconic and I don't think FFG will mess with that. Luke flew and X-Wing when he destroyed the 1st Death Star, Yoda used to force to lift Luke's X-Wing from the swamp. Every single soul who has seen the original SW trilogy knows that Luke flies an X-Wing, Han flies the Falcon, the baddies fly TIE Fighters, etc.

Whilst the EU may have shown Luke flying an E-Wing at some point, MOST SW fans won't recognise or identify with that. I was suggesting that FFG is mindful of maintaining the elements of the game that are iconic SW.

That was my point.

As long as scum is a faction, there's no way they won't delve into EU. While there may be a strong preference to use canon where ever possible, the EU isn't going away. There could be limits to what Disney allows ffg to take from EU however, especially if they have immediate plans for a particular EU ship. Eg booster terricks custom z-95 is basically a t70 x-wing. The source of inspiration was the same quarrie concept art.

@Conandoodle If you speak of iconic, then no rebel ship other than the x-wing should have aces. Even in the EU, the x-wing was the ship of choice of rebel pilots. Rebel pilots used other ships only for short periods preferring to return to the x-wing. Only the y-wing pilots didn't move to x-wimgs much.

Luke in an E-wing,

A consideration that we overlook due to our fandom at times. 99.99% of SW fans recognise Luke in an X-Wing. It is one of those many things that are iconically SW. That small remaining fraction have read the relevant EU material to appreciate other alternatives.

I argue that FFG has to make these considerations when designing the game. They have to keep enough iconic SW on the table to ensure that it remains 'Star Warsy' for those that that haven't read every comic or book, played every game, scoured the wiki, attended conventions, etc.

Accordingly, we will not see Luke in an E-Wing. If we do see an E-Wing in an Aces Pack it will be with characters drawn from the EU or fabricated.

I don't follow this logic. The game is filled with pilots, ships, and upgrade cards from a plethora of sources, many of which fall into the obscure "un-Star Warsy" (for some people) category. They're here, and they keep getting released wave after wave.

Luke in an E-wing is a no-brainer: his R7 unit is already in the game, it's a ship he flew in the old canon, and his ability would be quite nice behind three agility. Might see a bit more use than Poe at that point.

Similar argument goes for the twins... in X-wing the EU isn't dead, it's just part of the Ultimate Showdown where Biggs is alive, and Miranda and Poe can fly in the same squadron. Will we see them? Who knows? But this weird idea that the X-wing team is going to stop plumbing the vast resources of the EU (and the Disneyverse) is absurd.

Apologies, there has been a miscommunication .. or you saw a few key words and jumped to your own conclusions.

I completely understand that FFG is sourcing the EU for material, and (despite my lack of interest in the EU) appreciate that they do this. I know there are a lot of fans out there that have some favourite pieces from the expanded universe. It also adds a lot more depth to the game than the OT alone can.

My point was that some elements of SW are iconic and I don't think FFG will mess with that. Luke flew and X-Wing when he destroyed the 1st Death Star, Yoda used to force to lift Luke's X-Wing from the swamp. Every single soul who has seen the original SW trilogy knows that Luke flies an X-Wing, Han flies the Falcon, the baddies fly TIE Fighters, etc.

Whilst the EU may have shown Luke flying an E-Wing at some point, MOST SW fans won't recognise or identify with that. I was suggesting that FFG is mindful of maintaining the elements of the game that are iconic SW.

That was my point.

But noone wants to take away X-wing Luke, just give the choice to take E-wing Luke instead.

Luke in an E-wing,

A consideration that we overlook due to our fandom at times. 99.99% of SW fans recognise Luke in an X-Wing. It is one of those many things that are iconically SW. That small remaining fraction have read the relevant EU material to appreciate other alternatives.

I argue that FFG has to make these considerations when designing the game. They have to keep enough iconic SW on the table to ensure that it remains 'Star Warsy' for those that that haven't read every comic or book, played every game, scoured the wiki, attended conventions, etc.

Accordingly, we will not see Luke in an E-Wing. If we do see an E-Wing in an Aces Pack it will be with characters drawn from the EU or fabricated.

I don't follow this logic. The game is filled with pilots, ships, and upgrade cards from a plethora of sources, many of which fall into the obscure "un-Star Warsy" (for some people) category. They're here, and they keep getting released wave after wave.

Luke in an E-wing is a no-brainer: his R7 unit is already in the game, it's a ship he flew in the old canon, and his ability would be quite nice behind three agility. Might see a bit more use than Poe at that point.

Similar argument goes for the twins... in X-wing the EU isn't dead, it's just part of the Ultimate Showdown where Biggs is alive, and Miranda and Poe can fly in the same squadron. Will we see them? Who knows? But this weird idea that the X-wing team is going to stop plumbing the vast resources of the EU (and the Disneyverse) is absurd.

Also, consider this... the new movie quashes the idea of Jaina ans Jacen Solo, so there won't be cards for them, they have been removed from the canon and have no place any more. Also Mara Jade as a Skywalker spouse is on hold until the newer movies show us the new canon of that concept.

We all have our likes and dislikes of the EU stories and old canon ideas, but until Disney gets the new ideas out there isn't any old canon.

Just my 2cr

I hope we see a X-wing upgrade in the expansion. I would like to see something that helps with their movement which I think is lacking. Maybe after doing a 1-2 speed maneuver do one free boost or barrel roll action. Or a 3-4 point discount on torpedo's.

The weakness in thinking there will be another T-65 is that we already have three sources for them of which only the lowly, but mighty, TIE Fighter can claim the same.

The T-65's last update was in Wave 4, however.

The weakness in thinking there will be another T-65 is that we already have three sources for them of which only the lowly, but mighty, TIE Fighter can claim the same.

The T-65's last update was in Wave 4, however.

That may be.

I'll certainly agree that there is plenty of space for X-Wing improvements and for new X-Wing pilots. The Imperial Vets and Ghost seem to show us that FFG has finally warmed to the idea of having the same pilot having a choice of ships within the faction to use. Coran and Tycho were both X-Wing pilots as well were they not? Put some of these new pilots in the Vets and throw in some more "fixers" and the X-Wing could make a resurgence.

Well there are 8 unique x-wing pilots now and 2 non-uniques. The x-wing could really use a non-unique with an ept (rogue squadron vet maybe) and adding another 2 pilots wouldn't be out of place. So many canon ones haven't been added from red squardon still after all.

Well there are 8 unique x-wing pilots now and 2 non-uniques. The x-wing could really use a non-unique with an ept (rogue squadron vet maybe) and adding another 2 pilots wouldn't be out of place. So many canon ones haven't been added from red squardon still after all.

Using that criteria 10/13 TIE Fighters are unique over three release methods. Looking at other ships:

TIE/fo is 6/9 on two releases.

TIE Interceptor is 7/11 on two releases.

TIE Advanced has 6/8 unique pilots over two releases.

It looks like most of the Rebels have 2/4 with one release and 4/6 with two releases. While they have more upgrade options the rebels sure lack the generic options of the Empire and just generally lack pilot options for any ship that isn't an X-Wing.

An Ewing only card that takes you're droid and sensor slots makes the most since. Something like as long as you have an evade token you can change 1 focus on defense. Also make it 1 point.

I think the Rebel Veterans pack will be tied into Rogue One... which is releasing next November. I'd like to see Y-Wings and HWK's, but it'll be closely tied to the ships we actually see in the movie. (X-Wing with black chevron).

I think we will see a Scum Aces or Veterans pack too. I'd expect to see a Scyk and StarViper in there.

If we do get a Rebel Veterans expansion, I agree, the Y-Wing and HWK-290 are the most likely candidates. Additional pilot options for the Y-Wing and HWK-290 along with a boost (particularly for the HWK-290) would be most welcome.

M-3As are too squishy for the cost (especially with the title) and StarVipers seem a bit overcosted. I'd definitely like to see some more unique pilots and a boost so I'll they'll see more table time.

I believe there will be a separate rogue one release similar to tfa. There's a new lander so far but landers aren't dogfighters. I don't really see y-wings in vets but I could be wrong

Sometimes it's not about "fixing" anything. See: B-wing in Rebel Aces.

I'd simply like to see more Rebel Y-wing and E-wing pilots.