My local league is running well and each week their is a challenge you can play with in order to gain bonus raffle points to the end of the season prize draws. This week challenge is NO ELITE TALENTS allowed.

I got three different lists in mind and frankly can't seem to make a choice. So I figure I would ask what the more experienced players would think of each list and their playability.

Etahn A'baht — E-Wing

32

Accuracy Corrector

3

R7-T1

3

Engine Upgrade

4

Ship Total: 42

Blue Squadron Pilot — B-Wing

22

Fire-Control System

2

"Mangler" Cannon

4

Ship Total: 28

Blue Squadron Pilot — B-Wing

22

Fire-Control System

2

"Mangler" Cannon

4

Ship Total: 28

Looking to maximize Crits with this list.

Royal Guard Pilot — TIE Interceptor

22

Autothrusters

2

Ship Total: 24

Royal Guard Pilot — TIE Interceptor

22

Autothrusters

2

Ship Total: 24

Royal Guard Pilot — TIE Interceptor

22

Autothrusters

2

Ship Total: 24

Royal Guard Pilot — TIE Interceptor

22

Autothrusters

2

Ship Total: 24

Just taking advantage of high performance craft here.

Torkil Mux — HWK-290

19

Blaster Turret

4

Recon Specialist

3

Moldy Crow

3

Ship Total: 29

Kavil — Y-Wing

24

Twin Laser Turret

6

Unhinged Astromech

1

Engine Upgrade

4

Ship Total: 35

Binayre Pirate — Z-95 Headhunter

12

Ship Total: 12

Binayre Pirate — Z-95 Headhunter

12

Ship Total: 12

Binayre Pirate — Z-95 Headhunter

12

Ship Total: 12

The Pirates are a screening force to give the turrets a chance to tear apart high PS ships. With Torkil knocking back dangerous pilots PS.

So just wondering what people think about these three lists and make any suggestions are welcome.

I don't think Magler Cannon if worth on B-Wing. You can upgrade Etahn with better upgrades or get Corran. Or get better PS B-Wngs.

Whatever happened to 4x syndicate thugs - TLT, unhinged 'mech (and BTL)?

Also, BBBBZ is pretty good...

What about a Z swarm?

3x Bounty hunter is pretty fun to fly too, don't see too many of them lists flying around.

Back to the original question,the etahn list,I think their might be few too little ships to take advantage of etahn's ability. Maybe a group of Zs could work better?

The Interceptor list looks pretty good, have you considered upgrading to named pilots like ltn Lorrir?

The third one, I'm not as sure about. When I run scum y-wings, I don't tend to go for the named pilots because, while kavil is great. TLTs it's only 1 damage per hit and those extra dice might be worthless against Aces. I would go for something like Kath Scarlet with some crew with either 2 TLT thugs or 4x Zs. Just my opinion.

I always try to build different lists then normal just to see what you can do with them,

The idea for the rebel list is to survive early on and then hammer a shieldless ship with as many crits as I can. With Etahn and the manglers I should be able the reliably throw two crits each attack (with targets locks).

WIth the imperial list I figure it would be better to have them all as PS6 so I could take advantage of moving which one I want first. the only issue is without elite talents not much they can do to support somewhere.

The Scum is a pure fun list. But I just found out it is similar to the one my opponent (who is also a good friend) lost to last week. But I have to admit I really like it (mind you I am a fan of the HWK) I may at this point try to build a list around the a rebel HWK (mind you I only have one rebel Z-95 so it will have to build it around other craft.)

Hm.. why Accurracy corrector on Etahn? You can't modify the hit to get Crit.

Drop that, for 3pt's you can get B-Wing/E2, JanOrs. So your B-Wings, can get evades, that helps to survive more then hammer with Crits.

Or get FCS and R2D2 on Etahn.

I applaud you for trying different list, not mainstream ones

Hm.. why Accurracy corrector on Etahn? You can't modify the hit to get Crit.

Drop that, for 3pt's you can get B-Wing/E2, JanOrs. So your B-Wings, can get evades, that helps to survive more then hammer with Crits.

Or get FCS and R2D2 on Etahn.

I applaud you for trying different list, not mainstream ones

I like the Idea of Jan, maybe switch out E'tahn for Kyle Katarn with Recon Specialist, Moldy Crow and Blaster Turret to max out Jan's ability. It would free up a lot of points to Upgrade the Two B wings to Dagger with B Wing/E-2. Makes me wonder who should I get to crew the other B wing??? Gunners not a bad choice nether is Weapons Engineer. May have to yank the Manger Cannons for something else to work. I may even switch out one of the B for Dutch to get the free Target lock. Any ideas???

Thoughts???

Hm.. why Accurracy corrector on Etahn? You can't modify the hit to get Crit.

Drop that, for 3pt's you can get B-Wing/E2, JanOrs. So your B-Wings, can get evades, that helps to survive more then hammer with Crits.

Or get FCS and R2D2 on Etahn.

I applaud you for trying different list, not mainstream ones

I like the Idea of Jan, maybe switch out E'tahn for Kyle Katarn with Recon Specialist, Moldy Crow and Blaster Turret to max out Jan's ability. It would free up a lot of points to Upgrade the Two B wings to Dagger with B Wing/E-2. Makes me wonder who should I get to crew the other B wing??? Gunners not a bad choice nether is Weapons Engineer. May have to yank the Manger Cannons for something else to work. I may even switch out one of the B for Dutch to get the free Target lock. Any ideas???

Rebel (100)

Dagger Squadron Pilot — B-Wing 24 Fire-Control System 2 "Mangler" Cannon 4 Jan Ors 2 B-Wing/E2 1 Ship Total: 33 Dagger Squadron Pilot — B-Wing 24 Fire-Control System 2 "Mangler" Cannon 4 Gunner 5 B-Wing/E2 1 Ship Total: 36 Kyle Katarn — HWK-290 21 Blaster Turret 4 Recon Specialist 3 Moldy Crow 3 Ship Total: 31

Thoughts???

Intresting take on a list. Try it out, hard to say what's better.

What i don't like is B-Wing becomes a 33-36pts ship with 1agility :/ Not so good, yes 1 can get 1 evade, other 2 evades. But still a lot of pts for a low agility ship

I liked your first list better with suggested Accuracy Corrector change to JanOrs

But list with Hwk is not that bad either, try it out.

If you want more survivability, i suggest try C3PO as crew instead of gunner.

Hm... Just an idea, get Nera Dantes for 1 BWing. So drop Gunner down to C3PO or othe 3pts crew and upgrade to Nera, she can fire outside arc too

You could get Lando or Dash crew also if don't have C3PO

Hm.. why Accurracy corrector on Etahn? You can't modify the hit to get Crit.

Drop that, for 3pt's you can get B-Wing/E2, JanOrs. So your B-Wings, can get evades, that helps to survive more then hammer with Crits.

Or get FCS and R2D2 on Etahn.

I applaud you for trying different list, not mainstream ones

I like the Idea of Jan, maybe switch out E'tahn for Kyle Katarn with Recon Specialist, Moldy Crow and Blaster Turret to max out Jan's ability. It would free up a lot of points to Upgrade the Two B wings to Dagger with B Wing/E-2. Makes me wonder who should I get to crew the other B wing??? Gunners not a bad choice nether is Weapons Engineer. May have to yank the Manger Cannons for something else to work. I may even switch out one of the B for Dutch to get the free Target lock. Any ideas???

Rebel (100)

Dagger Squadron Pilot — B-Wing 24 Fire-Control System 2 "Mangler" Cannon 4 Jan Ors 2 B-Wing/E2 1 Ship Total: 33 Dagger Squadron Pilot — B-Wing 24 Fire-Control System 2 "Mangler" Cannon 4 Gunner 5 B-Wing/E2 1 Ship Total: 36 Kyle Katarn — HWK-290 21 Blaster Turret 4 Recon Specialist 3 Moldy Crow 3 Ship Total: 31

Thoughts???

Intresting take on a list. Try it out, hard to say what's better.

What i don't like is B-Wing becomes a 33-36pts ship with 1agility :/ Not so good, yes 1 can get 1 evade, other 2 evades. But still a lot of pts for a low agility ship

I liked your first list better with suggested Accuracy Corrector change to JanOrs

But list with Hwk is not that bad either, try it out.

If you want more survivability, i suggest try C3PO as crew instead of gunner.

Hm... Just an idea, get Nera Dantes for 1 BWing. So drop Gunner down to C3PO or othe 3pts crew and upgrade to Nera, she can fire outside arc too

You could get Lando or Dash crew also if don't have C3PO

Thanks Terter took your advice and tried Jan Ors out on a Dagger B and it helped big time. It is funny because my Mangler cannon cards were missing I switched them out for Ion Cannons and got a great list out of it.

My list

With Jan Ors taking advantage of Moldy crow and recon spec (since their maneuvering dials are close enough it was easy to keep them together making it easy to get those evade tokens) and was able to out shoot a turret based list. The Ion cannons made it easy and looking back were a much better choice then my missing Mangler Cannons. I lucked out and had my two B Wings at range one and the HWK at range two on his Horton Salm. Once that happened everything fell into places and slagged his HWK two turned later after ioning his HWK onto an asteroid. Miranda killed the B Wing with Jan but by that time I used the Ion Cannon to keep her at movement one and tore her apart with my HWK's Blaster turret. Over all a good match.