E-Wing Fix idea, and update to previous ideas

By RPLev, in X-Wing Off-Topic

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Hello everyone. I have been busy with Tournaments. It is why I have been absent from the community and or it's forums. I see in my absence that a lot of people were talking about my ideas and I do think some of the ideas that they had were interesting. I wanted to share this in a separate forum so that it's easier to find, than scrolling through 18 pages worth of posts. Also so that you could see the update to the ideas rather than scrolling through revisions.

First up is the E-Wings. This is a very expensive ship for what you get. Corran seems to be the only E-Wing in use right now. This surprises me because Corran is more of a solo type than a team member. Etahn is the team member E-Wing because he causes all of his buddies to roll 1 hit to 1 crit. This is not limited to 1 turn but, it is based on Etahn being in arc which can be problematic. Still it's a good ability.

My final revision for the E-Wing fix is based on a Title Card. The Title Card will be called "Fifth Fleet E-Wing". I discovered very quickly that everyone didn't appreciate the -2 cost of the early variant, despite it being limited to Pilot Skill 7 or less, and not effected by Adaptibility.

So I have decided to further the restrictions. It will result in a -2 cost but, only to Astromechs. This only applies to Pilot Skill 7 or less. This Title is not effected by Adaptability. This way Etahn can benefit from it, even if he has Veteran Instincts on. This will also make it so Corran can't use Adaptability to minus his skill by 1 to benefit from it. Future E-Wings (if they come out) will still be able to use it.

The second option I came up with, is the same as above except, it applies to the System Slot. It minuses the cost of System Upgrades by 2. This would give Etahn, and any rookies a free Fire Control System. It would bring back pilots like the Black Moon Squadron. Knave Squadron is completely useless, due to the Pilot Skill 1, so we need to bring back Black Moon or something.

The third option is the same as option two however, this one got much more flame than the first idea. The difference is, that it applies all above restrictions, gives the Fire Control System, but, it also gives the E-Wing 1 or 2 more Pilot Skill as well. This way the Black Moon becomes a 4 or 5 pilot skill, and Etahn a 6 or 7. People told me this would be un-balanced. I don't think so. Etahn would be free to change his VI to Lightning Reflexes or something like that (to give him more mobility).

In place of the Pilot skill, I did offer the idea of being able to perform a free Evade action when in range 1 of the enemy. Or a free Barrel Roll once per round.

With E-Wings discussed lets look at the revisions for my older T-65 and T-70 Title Card ideas. Let's start with the T-65:

The T-65B was one of the earliest model variants to see combat. It was still slower than the Tie but, it was tougher than the original. This title card removes the modification slot, gives you 1 more shield, and reduces cost by 1 The reason for the removal of the Modification is because everyone b***** that it would make the T-65 as cheap as the Kihraxz, and it would give it a free Integrated Astromech. With the removal of the Modification slot, you can consider that fixed. It won't replace the T-70 due to it not having a Tallon Roll, Boost, or a Modification slot.

The T-65D-A1 was an attempt to remove the Astromech, and use more computers in place of that. My original idea was to make this Title Card remove the Astromech slot, but, give it a Free Focus when at Range 1 of an enemy.

People came up with a different idea, based on this, that got more popularity however. They wanted it to change the Astromech Slot to a System Slot. I was ok with that, and added that it will reduce the cost of a System Upgrade slot by 2. This would make it so the T-65 gets a free Fire Control System. If this idea was to be used, then I said that we should make this a 0 cost Modification slot, that can't be used when a Model Title is in use (T-65B for example). This way the T-65 and T-70 Benefit from it.

I attempted to propose the T-65AC4 title card but, every attempt resulted in negativity. The T-65AC4 was the last model to be produced, and was considered top of the line (from what I can read). I was thinking the Title would give it the Boost action. People said that the T-70 was suppose to replace the T-65 was the reason they hated that idea.

After that I tried to propose that it would make all 2 and 3 green maneuvers. That got a lot of negativity too however. So this idea is scrapped as far as I am concerned.

The second to last title card I proposed for the T-65 was the Stealth X. The Stealth X was described as being a derivative of the XJ3. It featured equipment that hid it from sensors, and a paint job to make it visually hard to spot. The down side to this craft was that, if it used it's comm link, it would be spotted. This is why Jedi or Ace Pilots were the only ones to use it.

My proposal was for this Title Card to give the X-Wing +1 agility, and can't be Target Locked. Due to how powerful that is, it needs a strong balance. This title card can only be used on Pilot Skill 8 or higher. Furthermore, it will make it so that any Elite Pilot Talent, or Pilot Ability that benefits another ship, would make it lose the 1 Agility, and Target Lock protection for a turn. This would make it so Luke, Wedge or Wes are the only ones who can use it (without help). If say Garven Dreis decided to get Veteran Instincts to benefit from it, he wouldn't be able to give his Focus token out. If he did, he would be revealed and lose the protection.

The Stealth X Title Card would be easy to implement. We would just use the Stealth Token that the Phantom gets, to let someone know it's a Stealth X.

The final proposal was the "Hardpoint Squadron" Title Card. The Hardpoint Squadron was a Squad commanded by Luke, that featured all Jedi Pilots. They used XJ-6 X-Wings exclusively. I proposed to make this a T-65, Red Squadron restricted Title Card. It would give it an Elite Pilot Talent, and +1 or 2 Pilot Skill. This title card makes it so you can't use cards that increase Pilot Skill.This would not replace the T-70, Hobbie, Biggs or Garven. Hobbie, Biggs, and Garven have great Pilot Talents. The T-70 Red Squadron Veteran while 2 points more than this, can't be replaced. It has boost, and 1 more hit point than the T-65. I would say this is balanced.

Now to the T-70..

I was doing some reading on it, and it is interesting. "The Incom-FreiTek T-70 X-wing starfighter was in use by the Resistance 30 years after the Battle of Endor. By that time, it had been replaced in New Republic service by the T-85 X-wing". If I am reading that right, that means we should of seen the T-85, not the T-70 in the Force Awakens. The other interesting thing was "An underslung blaster cannon could also be mounted. The weapons were aimed using a targeting computer"

I couldn't come up with an idea regarding a T-85 title card because I can't find a lot of details on it. The Underslung Blaster gave me an idea though. I was thinking that you could make a modification slot card, specific to the T-70 called "Underslung Blaster Cannon". I had two ideas for this:

Increase your attack by 1. The damage caused by this weapon, must be a hit. This would make it so it can't critical.

Requires Target Lock. Increase your attack by 1. Add a hit result to your dice results. You can't spend a Target Lock this round.

I like the first idea better because it makes it so that T-70's are at least getting 1 hit each time. It will still be avoidable by high agility ships.

This is all I have. What do you all think?

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I was doing some reading on it, and it is interesting. "The Incom-FreiTek T-70 X-wing starfighter was in use by the Resistance 30 years after the Battle of Endor. By that time, it had been replaced in New Republic service by the T-85 X-wing". If I am reading that right, that means we should of seen the T-85, not the T-70 in the Force Awakens. The other interesting thing was "An underslung blaster cannon could also be mounted. The weapons were aimed using a targeting computer"

I think what they meant by this was that the Resistance had the old surplus T-70's, while the New Republic had the fancy new T-85's.

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Interesting thought. I guess we will never truly know. I can't find much on the T-70 or T-85 in any books, or internet references. It's so hard to determine where things are, or what they did

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I did look but, I was not aware to look for Incredible Cross Section specifically. It was not mentioned, or linked in the places I went to read on the subject. I was also not aware the Star Wars website had a wiki on it.

Even though it is an interesting link, it still doesn't explain how they went from the T-70 to T-85. What I mean is, if you look at the XJ Series (I forget which one), it will say it is based off of the T-65B. I am wondering where the T-70 and T-85 came from.

Regardless of what happened, I am more interested in getting my ideas out there. I know I am not a World Champion but, I would like to think that I have enough experience, and time with the game, to come up with a good idea. I spent a lot of time talking about it with the community as well.

Feel free to discuss either though. I will happily read whatever you post!