I've seen so many threads pop up for this one pilot that I decided to compile all the answers I found into one article.
Omega Leader FAQ with examples
Nice article, you could have probably used a section on cards like R4-B11, R7, and Elusiveness. Those cards all force Omega Leader to modify his own dice.
These cards are dice modifications just as any other card in the article.
It is a big misconception that forcing your opponent to reroll his dice, is him modifying the dice. Forcing an opponent to reroll dice with a card effect you control is a dice modification done by you.
These cards are dice modifications just as any other card in the article.
It is a big misconception that forcing your opponent to reroll his dice, is him modifying the dice. Forcing an opponent to reroll dice with a card effect you control is a dice modification done by you.
Where are you getting that from?
Edited by WWHSDSensor jammer should also be mentioned
These cards are dice modifications just as any other card in the article.
It is a big misconception that forcing your opponent to reroll his dice, is him modifying the dice. Forcing an opponent to reroll dice with a card effect you control is a dice modification done by you.
Where are you getting that from?
From the rules. It is a card effect used in the defender modify attack dice or attacker modify defense dice steps.
Edited by StephenEsvenFrom the rules. It is a card effect used in the defender modify attack dice or attacker modify defense dice steps.
So is Palpatine and that was ruled to be a modification that comes from the ship that Palpatine is on and not from the Defender/Attacker. The wording on those three upgrades seems to be rather unambiguous about who is performing the reroll.
I've submitted a rules question about how Omega Leader interacts with R7. I'll post the response here if I receive a response.
From the rules. It is a card effect used in the defender modify attack dice or attacker modify defense dice steps.
So is Palpatine and that was ruled to be a modification that comes from the ship that Palpatine is on and not from the Defender/Attacker. The wording on those three upgrades seems to be rather unambiguous about who is performing the reroll.
I've submitted a rules question about how Omega Leader interacts with R7. I'll post the response here if I receive a response.
Palpatine does not force the opponent to reroll dice, so I don't see what impact that has on R7, R4-B11, and Elusiveness
The 3 cards in question force the opponent to roll the dice, but it is still you that is using a card effect that modifies the opponents dice, and thus an effect that is blocked by OL. The fact that the opponent roles the dice is by design from FFG so only the defender rolls the defense dice and only the attacker rolls the attack dice.
These cards are dice modifications just as any other card in the article.
It is a big misconception that forcing your opponent to reroll his dice, is him modifying the dice. Forcing an opponent to reroll dice with a card effect you control is a dice modification done by you.
Where are you getting that from?
From the rules. It is a card effect used in the defender modify attack dice or attacker modify defense dice steps.
However, OL prevents the attacker from modifying dice. Just like Palpatine on another ship, those are not, by RAW, the attacker modifying dice.
This needs FAQing,k but by current RAW, it's accurate.
Great article. However, after each point, I would have liked to seen a link showing where each ruling came from. Not saying that I don't trust your sources. But knowledge is power and I would like to be able to back them up if I run into any questions during a tourney. But being as I am going to start flying Omega Leader, thanks for the compilation!
There is a long discussion here about R7 and other forced reroll. https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/197808-omega-leader-vs-tarn-mison-with-an-r7-astromech/
There is a long discussion here about R7 and other forced reroll. https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/197808-omega-leader-vs-tarn-mison-with-an-r7-astromech/
Doesn't the ruling on Palpatine pretty much put a hole in the logic used in that thread though?
It seemed that everyone in that thread felt that the "him" in this sentence was the key to keeping R7 from working:
"The defender can resolve any card abilities that allow him to modify the attack dice."
There's a similar sentence in the modify defense dice step. Palpatine is used during that step but isn't a modification being performed by the Defender. That seems to establish that not everything that happens in that step follows the exact formula presented in that sentence.
No.
The rules allow the opponent to use ANY card that allows him to modify the opponents dice before the opponent can do his own modifications.
OL only prohibits the use of pilot ability and cards equipped on the ship he has a TL on. This allows Palatine to work when equipped on a different ship that the TLed.
R7, Elusiveness and R4-B11 are all upgrade cards that when equipped on the TLed ship gets blocked by OL as that are modifying OLs dice.
No.
The rules allow the opponent to use ANY card that allows him to modify the opponents dice before the opponent can do his own modifications.
OL only prohibits the use of pilot ability and cards equipped on the ship he has a TL on. This allows Palatine to work when equipped on a different ship that the TLed.
R7, Elusiveness and R4-B11 are all upgrade cards that when equipped on the TLed ship gets blocked by OL as that are modifying OLs dice.
But Omega Leader's ability doesn't say anything about stopping effects from causing a modification. It only stops the enemy ship from modifying. In the case of a card like R7, it is Omega Leader that is rerolling, not the enemy ship.
"Enemy ships that you have locked cannot modify any dice when attacking you or defending against your attacks."
I can see where you're coming from but I'm still not sure about it. Hopefully, FFG responds to my rules question.
You need to accept that FFG took into account that only the defender rolls green dice and only the attacker rolls red dice no matter who is causing the reroll.
There is a difference between modifying the dice and rolling the dice.
I can force you to reroll the dice. That is me modifying your dice. However you get to pick up the dice and actually roll them. This way no one could accuse me of doing weird things to make sure your defense dice came out to my advantage.
Edited by StephenEsvenIf Omega Leader has a ship targeted and it shots Omega Leader with HLC does it change its crits to hits still?
If Omega Leader has a ship targeted and it shots Omega Leader with HLC does it change its crits to hits still?
Nope.