And, actually...I'm racking my brain now to remember the EXACT moment he chose to concede. And I am pretty sure it was after my last ship died.

When was the tournament? The new core set changed the end-of-game timing. You always play to the end of a round (with the exception of a concession, which ends the game immediately -- that's in the tournament rules).

If you played under the new rules, what you reported was technically legal.

Don't tell Nova squadron or everyone's getting banned

It is seriously painful to listen to that podcast.

Multiple early episodes, "Hey guys, I took two lists to a tournament and decided which one I'd play after looking at everyone else's lists, then I won the whole thing!" "Wow, great job, you're so good at X-Wing!"

Every other podcast, "We're not really competitive players, we don't go to win, just to have fun."

Later, "At a Regional, two rounds in a row my game ended in a tie, so even though I've organized 40+ tournaments and know it's collusion, my opponent and I decided that ties were some fluke of the rules and we flipped a coin and I got two wins."

EDIT: Added three important words.

Don't tell Nova squadron or everyone's getting banned

It is seriously painful to listen to that podcast.

Multiple early episodes, "Hey guys, I took two lists to a tournament and decided which one I'd play after looking at everyone else's lists, then I won the whole thing!" "Wow, great job, you're so good at X-Wing!"

Every other podcast, "We're not really competitive players, we don't go to win, just to have fun."

Later, "Two rounds in a row my game ended in a tie, so even though I've organized 40+ tournaments and know it's collusion, my opponent and I decided that ties were some fluke of the rules and we flipped a coin and I got two wins."

Please tell me you're joking?

Odd number of players so the TO plays (his beat face list) to even out the pairings.

1 person drops. TO keeps playing (and winning) while giving Byes to people who actually paid to be in the event.

TO wins the event and takes the prizes.

That's pretty poor. I generally don't like the TO playing since it creates a conflict of interest. The only time that I have done it was for a fun Team Epic tournament where I built a 'bye' list. I felt that it's not very fun for someone to have a three hour bye. Against the bye list they could play and get a decent MOV.

Am I weird for thinking that if I know ahead of time I can't commit to the full length of a tournament, I don't go to the tournament at all?

Am I weird for thinking that if I know ahead of time I can't commit to the full length of a tournament, I don't go to the tournament at all?

Depends - the length is usually dictated by how many sign up, and that can be the difference between it finishing nicely on time or ending some point in the early hours.

Of course, but that seems like something you take into account ahead of time. I know emergencies come up, that's understandable, but going in knowing you can only play two rounds seems odd to me.

I imagine it's more like 'I can play 5, maybe 6, but not 9'. It's not like trains care about your overrunning game schedule, after all.

Don't tell Nova squadron or everyone's getting banned

It is seriously painful to listen to that podcast.

Multiple early episodes, "Hey guys, I took two lists to a tournament and decided which one I'd play after looking at everyone else's lists, then I won the whole thing!" "Wow, great job, you're so good at X-Wing!"

Every other podcast, "We're not really competitive players, we don't go to win, just to have fun."

Later, "Two rounds in a row my game ended in a tie, so even though I've organized 40+ tournaments and know it's collusion, my opponent and I decided that ties were some fluke of the rules and we flipped a coin and I got two wins."

Please tell me you're joking?

Wish I was. After that last bit (among other things), I'm done with NovaSquadronRadio.

Odd number of players so the TO plays (his beat face list) to even out the pairings.

1 person drops. TO keeps playing (and winning) while giving Byes to people who actually paid to be in the event.

TO wins the event and takes the prizes.

That's pretty poor. I generally don't like the TO playing since it creates a conflict of interest. The only time that I have done it was for a fun Team Epic tournament where I built a 'bye' list. I felt that it's not very fun for someone to have a three hour bye. Against the bye list they could play and get a decent MOV.

I do hope he was speaking hypothetically and that this never actually happened. Personally I don't have a problem with a TO playing, provided they of course have a second TO on hand for disputes during their games.

I imagine it's more like 'I can play 5, maybe 6, but not 9'. It's not like trains care about your overrunning game schedule, after all.

Fair enough. I live in an area where mass transit is kind of a joke, so we don't really run into this.

The starting on time thing drives me nuts. I once was at a Store Championship that started 45 minutes late due to someone calling in and saying they'll be late. I know sh*t happens, but you know about these events usually a month or so in advance. If you can't make it on time, then don't bother. We all just had to sit there twiddling our thumbs waiting for this guy to show. Worst of all I think he dropped after 3 games because he lost two.

One problem I see is that anyone can be a TO/judge and from what I've seen it is just a player trying to promote the game and not a store employee. Don't other games like this require the judge to take a test or something? I think Heroclix did. Judging is a tough gig and open to some interpretation and people need to make judgment calls, I sure wouldn't want to do it and am thankfully someone else is willing to take the time to set tournaments up.

Unfortunately this game has lots of pieces and lots of setup time involved but starting 45 minutes late would drive me nuts and make me not want to attend the tournament again if that is something that normally happens.

Why do gamers seem to have a propensity to not show, arrive late or leave early for tournaments? Do that at a sporting event of any kind and suffer a loss or a disqualification. Although the TO made some mistakes I'm more irritated at players who place the judge in these sorts of situations in the first place.

1. Don't shower before the event. If anyone says anything tell them you're an Eco-Activist and don't feel happy destroying the Dolphins natural habitat by showering.

2. Every 10 minutes apologise for "what you may be about to smell.".

3. Use your phone, tablet etc. to play the 10 hours of Cantina music throughout the entire tournament.

4. Take a close up photo of your opponent before every match telling them it's your victory photo.

5. Pre-measure everything then argue that your simply measuring and not pre-measuring.

6. Wear clogs.

7. Shake your opponents hand at the start of each match then complain about the taps in the toilets not working.

8. Eat lots of scampi fries and breath really heavily in the general direction of your opponent. Slur "wassat do?" whenever they use an ability or card.

9. Get drunk. Really drunk. Knock things over, spill drinks and possibly vomit on your list.

10. Insist on checking and shuffling your opponents damage deck and then scratch your genitals muttering something non-descript about herpes under your breath.

If I Ever Run A Tournament (ha ha), I think anyone who is late is welcome to play, but counts the games missed as a loss.

Am i the only person who does not care if people come late or leave early?

Its a game, people are playing to have fun. They may only get to fit in a few hours on the day of the tournament and may not get to play very much and the tournament may be there only opportunity in some time, cut them some slack.

To those of you claiming to be TO's and saying you would not let someone who was late play I am very glad i do not play anywhere near you and that my TO is a reasonable person and understands that not everyone can give up an entire day to a hobby. (I don't show up late because i have flexible time and an understanding wife but i certainly do not begrudge anyone trying to make the time to enjoy a hobble. Good for them)

To the OP i think the TO did handle your tournament wrong, and that is a shame.

Why do gamers seem to have a propensity to not show, arrive late or leave early for tournaments? Do that at a sporting event of any kind and suffer a loss or a disqualification. Although the TO made some mistakes I'm more irritated at players who place the judge in these sorts of situations in the first place.

Playing in countless hockey tournaments as a kid and lots of players came late and left early due to other commitments... also tournament organizers went out of there way to make scheduled that accommodated teams that could not get there for the first game. You know why? because its for fun. If its a store championship/regional/worlds then be a little stricter but still try to accommodate because at the end of the day its about fun. I do agree that if you come late you get a loss for that round its the only thing that makes sense. A disqualification? that is just not cool.

Some of you need to step back and realize that this is about having fun.

There is a difference between calling to tell that you'll be late and holding everyone up for 5-10 minutes and holding up everyone for 45.

Unless we're waiting on you to meet the threshold to start the event, you're getting a game 1 loss.

That's ridiculous that the event was held up for 45 minutes because of one guy.

best thread ever....

Has anybody suggested getting into a heated political debate with your opponent?

As someone who attends baseball tournaments regularly, if your team is not ready to play by 10 minutes after the scheduled start time you forfeit the game and the loss counts as being run-ruled i.e. the worst run differential allowed by the tournament. These are tournaments where the team pay $500+ to play. The good of the many outweighs the good of the few or the one.

This is stretched if the game was rescheduled due to weather or some other tournament impacting event.

Am i the only person who does not care if people come late or leave early?

Its a game, people are playing to have fun. They may only get to fit in a few hours on the day of the tournament and may not get to play very much and the tournament may be there only opportunity in some time, cut them some slack.

That also applies to those who are sitting around waiting for the guy who's 45 minutes late though. They may have only enough time for a tournament that started on time, or may have things to do afterward, and now everyone is stuck waiting on one person.

Some of you need to step back and realize that this is about having fun.

Yes. And it's no fun arriving on time for an event and being made to sit waiting doing nothing because someone else couldn't.

Has anybody suggested getting into a heated political debate with your opponent?

About how the emperor disbanded the Imperial senate without consulting the Ewoks?

How'za boutza talkink Lika jar jar? Ze wholeza times playink.

Wear mardi gras beads ...

Don't take them off when you lean across the table to move your ships...

If they move ships around on the table, act like nothing happened ...

Bring a thermos with hurricanes to drink..

spray an entire bottle of axe body spray on yourself, then come in with a gas mask