Punning Pundit, on 20 Feb 2016 - 11:46 PM, said:

Stone37, on 20 Feb 2016 - 8:33 PM, said:

7) Use a craps cane to gather your dice and to move your ships.

It's called a "croupier stick", and you get get them for ~$15 on Amazon.

Or you can just grab one the next time you're at a casino. They usually don't do much in the way of security in those places.

1. Place a tube of lube on the table, look your oponnent in the eye, wink and say "We're gonna have so much fun.."

2. Bring Star Trek attack wing ships and field them as if everything is normal

3. Fill an empty jar of mayonaise with yoghurt and eat the yoghurt from the jar during the match

4. Buy a parrot, teach him to say 'dont get cocky kid' , bring him to the tournament, let him sit on your shoulder and let him say the line everytime your oponnent scores a hit

5. Consequently speak sentences in different order, yoda-wise

6. Dress your kids up in Ewok costumes and make them do a ritual-dance around the table you are playing at

7. Dress your wife up as slave Leia and keep her chained to the table you are playing at

8. Do 6 & 7 both at the same time

9. When you are setting your dials, put your hand towards your oponnents head, try to mind-read him like Kylo Ren and say "dont fight it, you know you can't..."

10. Everytime your oponnent is about to attack one of your ships, wave your hand in front of him and say "this is not the ship you're looking for."

9. When you are setting your dials, put your hand towards your oponnents head and try to mind-read him like Kylo Ren

That on is hilarious! I would laugh my ass off if someone I was playing did that to me when I was setting dials. Especially if they also did a passable rendition of his voice.

Jim

1. Run a tournament.

2. 11 players show up.

3. 12th player joins so there's an even number.

4. Set round 1 pairings.

5. 13th player arrives after all matches are set, but before turn 1 begins.

6. Give player 13 the bye.

6. Reset all pairings and make everybody move.

7. Fast forward to the top 4 cut.

8. Top 4 is announced, but 3rd place has to leave.

9. Bump 4th place to 3rd and 5th to 4th.

9. Have a top 3 instead.

10. Give 1st place a bye into the final round and have 2nd and 4th play to meet him there.

10. Keep matches seeded as they were, forcing 1st place to play 4th while 2nd gets a bye into the final.

/rant

The last thing you do is give out a bye (which is a win) in a non random fashion. The three options are redo pairings, not allow the player to enter, or give the late player a loss.

I wouldn't hand out top four prizes until after the two games. If you can't stay to play in the top four then fifth place takes your spot. Pretty simple

The problem with this is, and he's quite entitled to do it, he can keep quiet. Sit down in pair, wait untill the ships are deployed and then shake his opponent's hand, say he has to go and concedes.

He's earned top 4, give him top 4 prize, but let 5th play so there's not an effective bye in the cut.

1. Place a tube of lube on the table, look your oponnent in the eye, wink and say "We're gonna have so much fun.."

3. Fill an empty jar of mayonaise with yoghurt and eat the yoghurt from the jar during the match

"

3. You could just man up and eat the mayo

1. Run a tournament.

2. 11 players show up.

3. 12th player joins so there's an even number.

4. Set round 1 pairings.

5. 13th player arrives after all matches are set, but before turn 1 begins.

6. Give player 13 the bye.

6. Reset all pairings and make everybody move.

7. Fast forward to the top 4 cut.

8. Top 4 is announced, but 3rd place has to leave.

9. Bump 4th place to 3rd and 5th to 4th.

9. Have a top 3 instead.

10. Give 1st place a bye into the final round and have 2nd and 4th play to meet him there.

10. Keep matches seeded as they were, forcing 1st place to play 4th while 2nd gets a bye into the final.

/rant

The last thing you do is give out a bye (which is a win) in a non random fashion. The three options are redo pairings, not allow the player to enter, or give the late player a loss.

Right, loss not bye. Given the situation where all other matches have all but started, loss it is, not re-pairing everyone else.

Thanks for the laughs, everyone!

I like how the thread turned out.

1. Place a tube of lube on the table, look your oponnent in the eye, wink and say "We're gonna have so much fun.."

3. Fill an empty jar of mayonaise with yoghurt and eat the yoghurt from the jar during the match

"

1. This is fun in any situation

3. You could just man up and eat the mayo

What's wrong with eating mayo out of the jar ?

Idiotic.

Whoever was TO for this event should be on a TO ban list.

That's probably a bit harsh. He did say he realizes that for the "top 3" at least 1st should've gotten the bye, so if it happens again he'll get it right, but he made the (wrong) call in the moment.

Idiotic.

Whoever was TO for this event should be on a TO ban list.

That's probably a bit harsh. He did say he realizes that for the "top 3" at least 1st should've gotten the bye, so if it happens again he'll get it right, but he made the (wrong) call in the moment.

Traditionally in games, including this one, I've played when you have a cut to top 4, or 8 for that matter, first place plays last place, second place plays second to last place ect.

Just because second places opponent dropped after making top 4 doesn't mean you should change the pairings to give the player that got first in swiss a bye into the final. The person who left conceded their match and the second place player gets the win and moves on to the final. Penalizing someone because his opponent had to leave and concede the match is really bazaar and outright wrong.

The other points you mentioned would drive me nuts and I agree that you and everyone else should have been pretty upset.

Idiotic.

Whoever was TO for this event should be on a TO ban list.

That's probably a bit harsh. He did say he realizes that for the "top 3" at least 1st should've gotten the bye, so if it happens again he'll get it right, but he made the (wrong) call in the moment.

Traditionally in games, including this one, I've played when you have a cut to top 4, or 8 for that matter, first place plays last place, second place plays second to last place ect.

Just because second places opponent dropped after making top 4 doesn't mean you should change the pairings to give the player that got first in swiss a bye into the final. The person who left conceded their match and the second place player gets the win and moves on to the final. Penalizing someone because his opponent had to leave and concede the match is really bazaar and outright wrong.

The other points you mentioned would drive me nuts and I agree that you and everyone else should have been pretty upset.

The purpose of pairing 1st against 4th (or 8th, or what have you) is that by being in 1st at that point, they have earned the "easiest" path to the final game. The lowest-ranked of the other players in the cut should theoretically be the "easiest" game. However, a bye in a cut situation is by definition easier than any game at all. Therefore, 1st place has earned the bye.

Bring Star Trek Attack Wing templates. Insist that they're exactly the same size as the X-Wing ones at every opportunity.

Idiotic.

Whoever was TO for this event should be on a TO ban list.

That's probably a bit harsh. He did say he realizes that for the "top 3" at least 1st should've gotten the bye, so if it happens again he'll get it right, but he made the (wrong) call in the moment.

Traditionally in games, including this one, I've played when you have a cut to top 4, or 8 for that matter, first place plays last place, second place plays second to last place ect.

Just because second places opponent dropped after making top 4 doesn't mean you should change the pairings to give the player that got first in swiss a bye into the final. The person who left conceded their match and the second place player gets the win and moves on to the final. Penalizing someone because his opponent had to leave and concede the match is really bazaar and outright wrong.

The other points you mentioned would drive me nuts and I agree that you and everyone else should have been pretty upset.

5th place should have just been brought into the Top 4. But in the event that for whatever reason you had to have a Top 3, and a player had to get a first round bye, it would have to go to the 1st place player. They've performed the best out of the qualifying rounds, and thus if there is a bye to be given out, it has to go to the player that has most earned it.

5. 13th player arrives after all matches are set, but before turn 1 begins.

With me as TO that is just tough luck.

If you are not there on time, the tournament happens without you.

YOU are responsible for being on time and YOUR time is not more important then the rest of the players.

5. 13th player arrives after all matches are set, but before turn 1 begins.

With me as TO that is just tough luck.

If you are not there on time, the tournament happens without you.

YOU are responsible for being on time and YOUR time is not more important then the rest of the players.

FYI, Mister 13 was also Mister-Drop-Out-of-the-Top-4...

Play a game knowing that you're going to have to leave after it, beat your opponent, and drop after it's counted as a loss for that player instead of just conceding and leaving.

I've done this before lol.

In fairness, the single elimination cut rounds are designed to prevent the first and second player from meeting until the final.

In fairness, the single elimination cut rounds are designed to prevent the first and second player from meeting until the final.

1 v 5 and 2 v 4 or 2 v 4 with 1st getting the bye.

Play a game knowing that you're going to have to leave after it, beat your opponent, and drop after it's counted as a loss for that player instead of just conceding and leaving.

I've done this before lol.

Just as a quick 180 on this...recently had a fella beat me 100/0 and knew he had to leave...right ad I'm about to fill out the card he said" STOP! DONT TOUCH THAT! " . he conceded and left. ...so, I'm grateful and I tried to make the most of it but just missed top 8 on MOV..

So..the question is...is that some sort of shady collusion on scoring?

Because...what your saying sounds more 'correct' but...it's not anything that was arranged between us or anything. He just decided at the last second he had to go.

And, actually...I'm racking my brain now to remember the EXACT moment he chose to concede. And I am pretty sure it was after my last ship died.

Interesting, and it ended up not mattering, but as a dude that prefers everything to be by the book correct ,I think we may have messed up.

I should say...not '/knew ' he had to leave...but decided on it .

Play a game knowing that you're going to have to leave after it, beat your opponent, and drop after it's counted as a loss for that player instead of just conceding and leaving.

I've done this before lol.

Just as a quick 180 on this...recently had a fella beat me 100/0 and knew he had to leave...right ad I'm about to fill out the card he said" STOP! DONT TOUCH THAT! " . he conceded and left. ...so, I'm grateful and I tried to make the most of it but just missed top 8 on MOV..

So..the question is...is that some sort of shady collusion on scoring?

Because...what your saying sounds more 'correct' but...it's not anything that was arranged between us or anything. He just decided at the last second he had to go.

And, actually...I'm racking my brain now to remember the EXACT moment he chose to concede. And I am pretty sure it was after my last ship died.

Interesting, and it ended up not mattering, but as a dude that prefers everything to be by the book correct ,I think we may have messed up.

You can't concede once a game has concluded. Reporting anything but the actual result of the game is improper. By accepting your opponents improper concession and reporting the false result you were colluding with your opponent to misrepresent the score.

Good to know. Thank you. Like I said, I prefer everything correct.

That being said, if the game had not yet concluded then it would actually be okay according to the letter of the law. Nowhere do the rules state that you can only concede for a certain reason, and provided your opponent is doing it of his own volition without you prompting him then it could not be considered collusion.

Some might take issue with a player essentially being given a free win, of course, but there are probably just as many players who would take issue with someone who intends to drop taking wins away from people who intend to play on. Bit of a grey area.

Play a game knowing that you're going to have to leave after it, beat your opponent, and drop after it's counted as a loss for that player instead of just conceding and leaving.

I've done this before lol.

Just as a quick 180 on this...recently had a fella beat me 100/0 and knew he had to leave...right ad I'm about to fill out the card he said" STOP! DONT TOUCH THAT! " . he conceded and left. ...so, I'm grateful and I tried to make the most of it but just missed top 8 on MOV..

So..the question is...is that some sort of shady collusion on scoring?

Because...what your saying sounds more 'correct' but...it's not anything that was arranged between us or anything. He just decided at the last second he had to go.

And, actually...I'm racking my brain now to remember the EXACT moment he chose to concede. And I am pretty sure it was after my last ship died.

Interesting, and it ended up not mattering, but as a dude that prefers everything to be by the book correct ,I think we may have messed up.

You can't concede once a game has concluded. Reporting anything but the actual result of the game is improper. By accepting your opponents improper concession and reporting the false result you were colluding with your opponent to misrepresent the score.

Don't tell Nova squadron or everyone's getting banned