Red Ace

By Scopes, in X-Wing Rules Questions

When does RA receive the evade token? When you take the first (of say 2) shield token(s)? Or after all damage is resolved?

After you remove the first shield token each round.

Briefly, it goes like this:

Attack rolls

Defence rolls

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Suffer Damage

==> Remove first Shield token

==> Assign Evade token

==> Suffer any further damage taken by the attack

Note it's once per round, not every attack. And the Evade token is assigned well after the modify steps, so it will not help you at all on this attack, but can be used for any following attack in the round.

Which is one of the reasons that if you are flying Comm Relay with a regen droid, it is recommended to try to pick up the damage by way of asteroid before getting into the first engagement.

Or you could throw Jan on a ship and pick it up right away, all but eliminating the possibility of losing any hull on your first defense roll. Then regen away. It's fun. Too bad Red Ace doesn't have an EPT :(

Or you could throw Jan on a ship and pick it up right away, all but eliminating the possibility of losing any hull on your first defense roll. Then regen away. It's fun. Too bad Red Ace doesn't have an EPT :(

If you drive over an asteroid with a green move (and take damage), you regen the shield and pick up the evade anyway...

Or you could throw Jan on a ship and pick it up right away, all but eliminating the possibility of losing any hull on your first defense roll. Then regen away. It's fun. Too bad Red Ace doesn't have an EPT :(

If you drive over an asteroid with a green move (and take damage), you regen the shield and pick up the evade anyway...

Sort of. Asteroid damage come into play after the missed perform action step, which is after you could have regened a shield from R2D2.

Ship with R2D2 does a green over a rock.

It has executed a green maneuver- > regen a shield, which is currently at max, so nothing gained

Skip perform action step

Roll for asteroid damage, possibly suffering damage, and obtaining an evade.

Nevermind... I read that post wrong.

Edited by VanorDM

Warning! Entering a zone of opinion...

Or you could throw Jan on a ship and pick it up right away, all but eliminating the possibility of losing any hull on your first defense roll. Then regen away. It's fun. Too bad Red Ace doesn't have an EPT :(

I believe that if "Red Ace" had a native EPT on his upgrade bar he would become a very broken pilot. He's overly survivable as it is. He doesn't need PTL in addition to R2-D2, Comms Relay, and Autothrusters. In this case he would have that focus + evade combo plus a target lock for an attack modifier or a boost for target acquisition and/or enemy arc dodging...

More to the point, Red Ace doesn't need to be able to take Juke...

Or you could throw Jan on a ship and pick it up right away, all but eliminating the possibility of losing any hull on your first defense roll. Then regen away. It's fun. Too bad Red Ace doesn't have an EPT :(

If you drive over an asteroid with a green move (and take damage), you regen the shield and pick up the evade anyway...

Nope. According to the FAQ you recover the shield token before rolling for damage.

FAQ. pg 13:

"If a ship equipped with R2-D2 executes a green

maneuver and its base or maneuver template overlaps
an obstacle token or its base overlaps a ship equipped
with Anti-Pursuit Lasers, that ship recovers 1
shield before rolling for damage."

Fair enough, I guess I was taught that wrongly.

Red Ace almost needs "Comm Relay" tech to even use his ability without just waisting it after the turn ends.

Red Ace almost needs "Comm Relay" tech to even use his ability without just waisting it after the turn ends.

And R2-D2 (maybe R5-P9 but not going to advise that). Saw a guy fly RA without R2-D2. In 1 shot he lost 3 shields and thus wasted his pilot ability.

Red Ace almost needs "Comm Relay" tech to even use his ability without just waisting it after the turn ends.

And R2-D2 (maybe R5-P9 but not going to advise that). Saw a guy fly RA without R2-D2. In 1 shot he lost 3 shields and thus wasted his pilot ability.

And for 36 points, you essentially get a ship that regenerates 2 shields a round.

​(Comm Relay's Evade token is like a shield in this scenario, against all attacks that don't cancel their own dice)

I kinda wanna try that now, flying with Poe (who IS using R5-P9)....

I kinda wanna try that now, flying with Poe (who IS using R5-P9)....

I have this in my list for Monday league night - it will be my first time running. I did debate VI Poe as well, but decided to go with Kyle + Pred + TLT + MC + Chewbacca. If he's in range, Red Ace can Target Lock, Focus, Evade or Boost, Focus, Evade. It relies on a synergy, but while it works it should be a hoot!

Red Ace almost needs "Comm Relay" tech to even use his ability without just waisting it after the turn ends.

And R2-D2 (maybe R5-P9 but not going to advise that). Saw a guy fly RA without R2-D2. In 1 shot he lost 3 shields and thus wasted his pilot ability.

And for 36 points, you essentially get a ship that regenerates 2 shields a round.

​(Comm Relay's Evade token is like a shield in this scenario, against all attacks that don't cancel their own dice)

I kinda wanna try that now, flying with Poe (who IS using R5-P9)....

Yep, and it leaves enough room for the Stresshog. I'm really liking it lately.