Boba card vs. Ghost/Phantom

By Atredes, in X-Wing

Not sure if this was asked before; have not seen it and cannot find it immediately.

Unreleased content question, just thinking outside the box.

If you use Boba crew to discard the Ghost title, does this mean you cannot deploy the phantom? While you can still use the phantom, the card that says you can deploy is now gone.

Until we get an FAQ the answer is probably yes.

I'm betting title cards are exempt from crewBoba. Via FAQ, I mean.

You'd lose the ability to deploy after a maneuver. Presumably you could still deploy (after taking a damage card) if the ghost was destroyed. Ultimately not that useful, since they still get all the benefits of having the docked phantom.

You'd lose the ability to deploy after a maneuver. Presumably you could still deploy (after taking a damage card) if the ghost was destroyed. Ultimately not that useful, since they still get all the benefits of having the docked phantom.

Preventing the opponent from using a good 25-30% of their purchased fleet by riveting shut the docking bay isn't useful?

Having the Phantom deploy mid-game is way more powerful than using the extra turret attack on the Ghost.

I expect an obvious rules-patch, because otherwise Boba Fett on a ship with Advanced Homing Missiles will be the bane of any Ghost/Phantom player (until they learn not to start the game docked at all).

You'd lose the ability to deploy after a maneuver. Presumably you could still deploy (after taking a damage card) if the ghost was destroyed. Ultimately not that useful, since they still get all the benefits of having the docked phantom.

Having the Phantom deploy mid-game is way more powerful than using the extra turret attack on the Ghost.

That ENTIRELY depends on how you build your list. I've flown 16 games now with a ghost and docked phantom. I've only deployed the phantom in 3-4 of those, and I've only ever deployed it because the ghost was going to die otherwise (or did get blown up so the phantom was forcibly deployed and took a damage). The rear arc and extra shot are COMPLETELY worth having 20 points off the board.

Edit: Losing the ghost title to Boba wouldn't bother me in the slightets. Losing my autoblaster would scare me a whole lot more.

Edited by VanderLegion

Not sure if this was asked before; have not seen it and cannot find it immediately.

Unreleased content question, just thinking outside the box.

If you use Boba crew to discard the Ghost title, does this mean you cannot deploy the phantom? While you can still use the phantom, the card that says you can deploy is now gone.

Edit. Well, not way more mischief on second thoughts, but it would essentially force your opponent to deploy the now not-phantom.

Edited by Spider

I'm betting title cards are exempt from crewBoba. Via FAQ, I mean.

That would be a shame though, and I don't understand the reasoning behind it either. Why should titles be exempt? They are upgrade cards after all.

It makes no real sense gametech-wise, nor fluff-wise.

If you come into range of Boba crew with Ghost/Phantom you deploy. You adapt. Asking titles to be exempt so you don't have to is just silly.

The only reason to want titles to be immune is fluff. By that same reasoning EPT's should be immune as well.

Not sure if this was asked before; have not seen it and cannot find it immediately.

Unreleased content question, just thinking outside the box.

If you use Boba crew to discard the Ghost title, does this mean you cannot deploy the phantom? While you can still use the phantom, the card that says you can deploy is now gone.

If Boba has the mystical ability to remove titles then the Ghost title is not the one to bother with. Removing the Phantom title does way more mischief.

Edit. Well, not way more mischief on second thoughts, but it would essentially force your opponent to deploy the now not-phantom.

Can't target the Phantom while he is docked though.

Also, I'm not sure how scared I am of AHM boba on my ghost. Odds are decent that he'll never get a rnage 2 shot to fire it at me.

While you are docked, the Ghost can perform primary weapon attacks from its special firing arc and, at the end of the Combat phase, it may perform an additional attack with an equipped Turret. If it performs this attack, it cannot attack again this round.

If Boba discards the Ghost title, the VCX is no longer the Ghost and thus can no longer use its special firing arc or make an extra attack.

While you are docked, the Ghost can perform primary weapon attacks from its special firing arc and, at the end of the Combat phase, it may perform an additional attack with an equipped Turret. If it performs this attack, it cannot attack again this round.

If Boba discards the Ghost title, the VCX is no longer the Ghost and thus can no longer use its special firing arc or make an extra attack.

As noted above, screwing around with the titles is all very well, but if you discard the equipped turret on the Ghost, it loses the biggest buff from the title - the extra attack - and it can't use its turret for its normal attack.

Boba decisions will need to be carefully made for maximum utility rather than just killing unique stuff.

Edited by thespaceinvader

As noted above, screwing around with the titles is all very well, but if you discard the equipped turret on the Ghost, it loses the biggest buff from the title - the extra attack - and it can't use its turret for its normal attack.

Oh yeah, that's a fair point. I just read the discussion in here as people thinking the only thing you'd lose with the Ghost title was the ability to deploy on demand.

I think Boba would be even deadlier against a YT-2400 with title. Use Boba to get rid of the cannon (not the title). Then the title is still in play and prevents the 2400 from shooting at all.

edit- nevermind, the title says 'if you have a cannon upgrade equipped'

Edited by Droidlover

I think Boba would be even deadlier against a YT-2400 with title. Use Boba to get rid of the cannon (not the title). Then the title is still in play and prevents the 2400 from shooting at all.

As per the card, if you have no cannon equipped, you can use the primary weapon.

I think Boba would be even deadlier against a YT-2400 with title. Use Boba to get rid of the cannon (not the title). Then the title is still in play and prevents the 2400 from shooting at all.

edit- nevermind, the title says 'if you have a cannon upgrade equipped'

Wrong, the title only stops the main gun when a cannon is equiped

we get it, guys

either way, you still hit the HLC because the title is literally worthless without it

for Ghost, it'll depend on the turret and phantom in question

The fluff question is all a matter of how you imagine it, if Boba removed the Millenium Falcon title, it's still the Falcon, he's just sabotaged the engines.

What about the A Wing and Interceptor titles? If they are removed do you get to choose which EPT or Mod is flipped over?

In reality the Boba player would probably just want to choose on their own, but just curious.

Why wouldn't the Boba player simply discard the EPT or Modification?

What about the A Wing and Interceptor titles? If they are removed do you get to choose which EPT or Mod is flipped over?

In reality the Boba player would probably just want to choose on their own, but just curious.

It would be the same as with R2-D6 and Integrated Astromech, removing either of them would have no influence on the upgrades they've made possible.

Sorry, just imagining Boba getting rid of the title by rocketing over using his jet pack and redacting the name of the ship with a can of black spray paint.

What about the A Wing and Interceptor titles? If they are removed do you get to choose which EPT or Mod is flipped over?

In reality the Boba player would probably just want to choose on their own, but just curious.

No, removing those does nothing, per the ruling on discarding the EPT astromech with IA.

And anyway, why not just choose to remove one of the mods/EPTs in the first place?

Edited by thespaceinvader

I can see Boba spraypainting over the IG-2000 title.