Evil, evil, pure evil character

By Hexdot, in X-Wing Off-Topic

I'm thinking that this particular line of discussion should probably cease. If people get their panties in a knot about political discussion I dread to think what a debate on what's worse between A and B here will do...

BEHOLD!!! THE MOST EVIL FIGURE IN STAR WARS!!!

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This background schemer guy

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Given how evil slaving is - Krassis Trelix might be another good example of one of the more evil non-movie characters in this game:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Krassis_Trelix

Given how evil slaving is

Nah, that's just a relatively modern perception. :P .

And a relatively Star Wars-y perception.

Slaving, piracy, murder, green reptile ***ists , mind control via space magic, stalinesque killcounts associated with both goodies AND baddies blowing up space stations, planets and solar systems, hunting sapient species, xenophobia, species centric attitudes.... I'm not even talking about 40k.

Morality in the SW universe is F***ed.

The narrative consistently portrays those that do so as villains though - the Jedi Mind Trick is less "control" and more "manipulate" with those that actually take over a mind completely, being villains rather than heroes.

That doesn't mean villainy isn't common in the SW-verse - but authors do tend to show it as villainous.

And, outside of at least arguably defensive situations, it's rare for "goodies" to kill a lot of people. Kyp destroyed a system - but by this point he was clearly a villain.

Of course, we do see those pillars of moral rectitude, the Jedi, take the force-sensitive children from their parents for training and induction into their order.

Not even bothering to buy the freedom of the woman who mothered the Chosen One (nor apparently all that bothered how she actually managed that, you'd think they'd test her or something).

Attempting to scam local businesses too, with Watto.

Of course, we do see those pillars of moral rectitude, the Jedi, take the force-sensitive children from their parents for training and induction into their order.

Not even bothering to buy the freedom of the woman who mothered the Chosen One (nor apparently all that bothered how she actually managed that, you'd think they'd test her or something).

Another reason I hate the prequals. It depicts the jedi as a bunch of pro slavery layabouts.

So a jedi is not allowed to fall in love, but a slaver can go on about his ways and keep his slaves? Sod this. where's my red 'saber at?

It does paint the Jedi as the stagnant, petrified, corrupted arrogant organization, locked in an ivory tower looking down.

Like the Kingpriest of Istar out of the Dragonlance books, or the church of Om (pre-Bruma) of Small Gods.

Morally corrupt in that they are too afraid to interfere in 'states rights', to the point where they would allow gross injustice to prevail. Not unheard of in the Star Wars universe (see how the Hutts gained other planets), nor, sadly enough, in our own world.

Of course, we do see those pillars of moral rectitude, the Jedi, take the force-sensitive children from their parents for training and induction into their order.

Not even bothering to buy the freedom of the woman who mothered the Chosen One (nor apparently all that bothered how she actually managed that, you'd think they'd test her or something).

Another reason I hate the prequals. It depicts the jedi as a bunch of pro slavery layabouts.

So a jedi is not allowed to fall in love, but a slaver can go on about his ways and keep his slaves? Sod this. where's my red 'saber at?

Say what you will about the Sith, they get **** done.

Typically via the use of slaves.

The Republic might turn a blind eye to slavery in Hutt Space - but the old Sith Empire was built on the backs of slaves - and Palpatine did a lot of enslaving after he became Emperor - Wookiees, Twi'leks, etc.

Skeletor?

You misspelled Hordak Mumm-Ra. ;)

Barron Harkonnen

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Oh you mean X-wing. Well then in that case Darth Vader, duh!

Luke skywalker. He killed all those innocent people on the Death Star. Then kissed his sister. Ewwww. Then he helped get his father killed.

If you are on a military base during a war or an uprising, you should remind yourself that you are a legitimate target. A military target.

And if your father is a mass murderer bent on ruling the galaxy, you are not evil for trying to stop him.

The sister thing is just silly.

If you are on a military base during a war or an uprising, you should remind yourself that you are a legitimate target. A military target.

And if your father is a mass murderer bent on ruling the galaxy, you are not evil for trying to stop him.

The sister thing is just silly.

There is a whole scene in Clerks about how the imperial contractors working on the death star knew what they were in for.

About the sister thing... I'm just glad George R. R. Martin, didn't write the SW script, otherwise it would be more than a kiss! ;)

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The kiss was written before the sister part was known though.

Some sources suggest that Tarkin's goal (security) is secondary to his sadistic streak.

Jerjerrod is another character who (at least in the Legendsverse) is painted as exceedingly cruel:

Commander Jerjerrod sat, brooding, in the control room of the Death Star, watching all about him crumble. Half of his crew were dead, wounded, or run off - where they hoped to find sanctuary was unclear, if not insane. The rest wandered ineffectually, or railed at the enemy ships, or fired their guns at all sectors, or shouted orders, or focussed desperately on a single task, as if that would save them. Or, like Jerjerrod, simply brooded.

He couldn't fathom what he'd done wrong. He'd been patient, he'd been loyal, he'd been clever. he'd been hard. He was the commander of the greatest battle station ever built. Or, at least, almost built. He hated this Rebel Alliance now, with a child's hate, untempered. He'd loved it once - it had been the small boy he could bully, the enraged baby animal he could torture. But the boy had grown up now; it knew how to fight back effectively. It had broken its bonds.

Jerjerrod hated it now.

Yet there seemed to be little he could do at this point. Except, of course, destroy Endor - he could do that. It was a small act, a token really - to incinerate something green and living, gratuitously, meanly, toward no end but that of wanton destruction. A small act, but deliciously satisfying.

Yeah honestly the above section never made sense to me. He goes from protesting the order because there are Imperial troops on Endor to being eager to carry out the order.

Didn't bother me. With everything going downhill - Jerjerrod's anger at the Rebellion has overcome his worries about collateral damage.