accumulated from the Kingsmoot and NY meta games. Should also be on agotny.net soon.

Name/Location Rating W/L/T

1 Andy "Sithlord" NY 1577 11-2-1
2 Paul "Red Terror" NY 1553 10-4-1
3 Erick "Finitesquarewell" DC 1552 4-0-1
4 Corey DC/VA 1548 4-0-1
5 Casey DC 1523 3-1-1
6 Lucas "Maester Luke" MN 1514 3-2
7 Alec "Skeletonator" DE/PA 1513 3-2
8 Dan "Twn2dn" DC 1511 3-2
9 Alex NY 1505 4-4-3
10 Kevin "Kpmccoy21" DE 1499 2-2-1
11 Jason "Bloodycelt" MA 1489 2-3
12 Chris "ianmclaren" NY 1487 4-7-1
13 Mike "Lars" DE/PA 1487 2-3
14 Jason "letsgored" NY 1469 5-9-2
15 Will "Schrecklich" CT 1450 0-4-1
16 Peter Thomas NY 1449 0-4-1
17 Chris "Staglord" NY 1444 4-9
18 Josh "zombiewski" NY 1444 2-7

PS- if anyone (ktom?) can email me the gencon joust results I can add those in.

Is there any software to do this? I'm workin' on local organized play and I'd really like to have a good way to calculate ratings...Thanks.

I'll second Cooper's post. Is there a software program you're using to make the ELO rankings? I am envisioning something where I could enter in user information, set up pairings, and input W/L results and it would spit out the ELO rating. Also, if playing multiplayer, do you enter that into the ELO system as well? Could you set it up like the following for multiplayer:

Player A Wins the table, Player B is second, Player C is third, and Player D takes fourth place.

So, Player A is awarded with 3 seperate wins according to the ELO system (having beaten all three at the table). Player B gets two wins against C and D, and C gets one win vs player D. Player D of course gets nothing but losses. So could you just enter results as if they were standard 1vs1 matchups?

Of course, all this depends on an ELO software program that operates how I would expect it to. Anyone know of a program that can accomplish this for free and or very cheap?

Wow, how I'm ahead of people without ever winning a game is beyond me : )

Looking at those rankings, making fun of Staglord's play has gone from being funny to cruel.

This is the online calculator I use: http://www.kosteniuk.com/EloCalc/elo.php

Easy to use and completely free. Starting rating is 1500 and set your k value (start at 25) based on the number of games the individual has played.

If you guys out there want to calculate your own rankings you can post or email results and they can be integrated into the "unofficial elo ratings" listed here and on agotny.net. Your tournament should have at least 4 players to be included.... Otherwise all of the NY meta's ratings would be "grandmaster of the universe" based from wins off staglord.

PS- I don't know of a good way to calculate multiplayer. The only way I figure would be to calculate the winner as beating each opponent, then second place losing to the winner and beating everyone else, and so on down the line... But that would lead to a huge rating discrepancy between the winner (ie: 4-0) and loser (ie: 0-4)

LetsGoRed said:

Post Black Friday, you should probably just post the ratings rather than the win/loss records.

Sithlord Threadkiller said:

This is the way that the tournament rules handle it. And yes, it does create a huge difference between winning and losing the table. (BTW: sithlord, it would be 3-0 and 0-3; you only have 3 opponents at the table.)

As we have been over many, many times, playing Joust and Melee are two completely separate experiences. I think you'd be better off having one set of Joust rankings and a second set for Melee.

Twn2dn said:

i don't know, i rather like the way the win/loss record looks after each player entry ;-)

agreed that there should be separate melee rankings though

finitesquarewell said:

So far I don't think any of the results used have been from melee competitions, so it would be easy enough to keep these as joust ratings and keep separate melee ratings if we ever have results to base them on and Sithlord is willing to calculate separately.

The rankings are now available on www.AGoTNY.net .

LetsGoRed said:

Says the clown who is ahead of me by ONE FREAKING WIN. Galss houses and all that - and lets see how this looks in three weeks.

Gee sithlord, thanks ever so much for getting this up for the community at this point. Considering you weren't even AT the Kingsmoot.....

Stag Lord said:

Oh you're just fortunate that Sithlord hasn't included any results from our current League season yet. I dare say that would put a country mile between us. I was wrong, it *is* still fun to make jokes about Stag's play. Teehee.

As for Sithlord being at the top of the rankings he calculated, hmmm...

If you're going to use an on-line calculator anyway, I would encourage you to really, really consider reading about, learning, and then using the TrueSkill System developed by those folks at Microsoft. research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/trueskill/details.aspx

I used this for our local draft league AAAAges ago and it worked very well. One of the huge advantages it has over straight ELO is that you can interpret multi-player matches as well.

The Braz

Sithlord Threadkiller said: