http://rpgpundit.xanga.com/716040021/item/

Does that mean that I dont get my Ulthuanbox?

EDITOR: (Per post below)

The article posted on the "RPG pundit" has no bearing on reality in any form, factor, or detail. In fact, other than the spelling, there is nothing accurate in this fabricated post whatsoever.

FFG is always willing to listen to critique, everyone is free to dislike our products or form opinions on our product -- even on our own message boards, but outright lies and slander against our staff is not acceptable in our eyes (as well as illegal in most of the Western world).

I am 100% certain, however, as to the rumors that, yes indeed, Mr. Pundit's pants are on fire.

cP
FFG

That was kind of expected by me... even if not THAT early.

This part is also very interesting to read:

"Fantasy Flight Games will officially explain this failure on the poor worldwide economy, although Jay Little is said to blame management interference in forcing him to move away from the system used in Dark Heresy and towards a variant of Fantasy Flight Game's own Descent board game."

'nuff said.

Man, if you're relying on RPG Pundit for your news of WFRP's demise, then you must really be desperate.

Of course the situation can't be that desperate right now... but the lone fact that this news has been posted means something is getting wrong in some way with V3.

Erik Bauer said:

You're obviously not familiar with RPG Pundit.

This news is bad but still it's not official. And that makes it not worth my etencion. The autor doesn't now who said it and when, he doesn't even say in what context it all was. So in my opinion everybody who doesn't like the FFG games could said it - everyone who doesn't like that what they done with WFRP could said it, even everyone whoes games are not that good as FFG games could said this rumor only to scare people of from FFG games and especialy WFRP3. I would wait for the official FFG news about it.

The economy in the world is not that good as it used to be but still the games are selling.

About Rouge Trader - I haven't buy it. It was not that interesting for me like DH, but I played it. For me RT could be a good suplement for DH and not another line.

About WFRp 3rd edition - for my all that changes that they made are good. They are a step to the future of RPG games. Maybe it looks a little bit like a board game with all those cards, custom dice and so on. But still it is Warhammer in completly new look. I will buy it, I will try it and I will play it for many years.

Who is this RPG Pundit guy and why should I care what he posts on his personal blog?

Necrozius said:

Thank You Necrozius for that - in short words You said that what I wanted to wrote. Who is this RPG Pundit? On personal blogs everybody could write down what he wants. Even I could make a blog and write on it that I want. Especialy if someone is not happy about publishing by FFG a new edition of WFRP he is writening down many words of critics. I know some people that said that they don't like it and say that the mechanics if terrible even when they haven't played the game or even sean it. Some poeple only want to write, sorry for hard words, "bull ****" and rumors becouse they don't have enought argument.

I said it once and I will repeat myself - don't like it don't buy it but still try it. Only after playing something and trying it You can say that it's not that what You are looking for.

But getting back to the title of this post - only official news from big and truthsed companys/people count. Only official news from someone who is close to this are truth. Remember when Graham McNeill wrote on his blog about playing WFRP3 - this is a good source of information. This guy was really close to the source and someone who is calling himself RPG Pundit is who? Nobody.

...but if it IS true, then I'll be a little disenchanted with the franchise.

I just hope that if things are REALLY going badly, that I'll still at least be able to get my copy of the core game + that first supplement (Adventurer's Toolkit) before the ship sinks.

Because whether or not even the employees truly like what they came up with for 3rd edition: well, I like it fine and I want to try it anyway.

Most folks probably know that I'm no fan of the direction FFG went with WFRP, but as a guy who has personally dealt with RPGPundit on numerous occasions, the worst of which was during the playtest of the Doctor Who RPG in which he was a total pain in the posterior, I can tell you that he is definately a rabble rouser who tries to find power and prestige in spreading this sort of malicious gossip.

He likes to think of himself as an academic or scholar of RPGs, with a professorial knowledge of all things RP (which is a pretty pathetic concept all on its own) but his only true academic trait is his snotty elitist attitude toward the rest of us, the 'unsophisticated RPG masses.'

It is because of him that my mind automatically turns off when anyone mentions The Forge...

Luther said:

...and a pipe.

monkeylite said:

Oh, yeah. I forgot to mention his whole 'sophisticated tobacco connoisseur' schtick. Good catch.

ffgfan said:

You mean anonymous hearsay from a Xanga blog isn't a credible lead? Well, I never!

ffgfan said:

Um, any business is only going to tell you things it wants you to hear, the stuff that presents it in the best light, and will inevitably put a positive spin on any situation no matter how bad it is. Sometimes, telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is really bad for business.

This pundit guy may be talking out of his backside and trying to stir up some controversy, but I wouldn't put too much faith in official news either.

Cheers

Sparrow

Who knows? Anonymous sources in the UK are usually government stooges stirring up lies about some innocent. Likewise official communiques are usually just propaganda and marketing. This RPG pundit looks like somebody with an axe to grind, anonymous sources is always the cowards way out. I don't know FFG at all, but what few products I have bought have been excellent. Hopefully we will get a reply from FFG and Jay Little to this bloggers insinuations. Saying what pipe tobacco you are smoking this week makes me think this guy should be on twitter, and certainly not taken seriously.

Don't forget that RPGPundit is solely responsible for Green Ronin's decision to publish True20, by way of his offensive attacks at Green Ronin staff and supporters and constant demands that his needs be met over all others

That said, he's fun to watch what wackiness he gets up to next

Wow... it's been a while since I posted, and I normally do a great job ignoring trolls and satying out of love/hate threads, but I just have to say that RPG Pundit's blog has to be one of the most ignorant articles regarding RPGs I've read in a while.

I don't believe he has any inside info at all, and if he does, it has been grossly exaggerated in a effort to do harm to the game.

No matter... I should be getting my prerelease kit tomorrow to start prepping for the 5 sessions I'm running Fri and Sat at the Little Shop of Magic in Las Vegas!

I'd take that with a grain of salt..

Anyone that feels the need to express what they are smoking, is likely so stoned they wouldn't know if a bus hit them.

The only thing I'm likely to believe is the low preorder for 3rd ed, given its quite a new style to RPGs and we have yet to see in in play or even in person for the majority of people. It's to be expected and I honestly cant believe that FFG wouldnt have take that into account, especially with the diametrically opposed views of it expressed on the forums.

Reaper Steve said:

Oh wow, I signed up for the Little Shop of Magic pre-release event yesterday!

No one has to like the new game if they just don't like it and I have no qualms with that but what really bothers me is when they start actively trying to hurt its success by spreading nasty rumours and ugly gossip.

Before Mr Pundit (of whom I had no former knowledge) decided to post his article (which I don't think is true at all, but even if it is true, I stand by what I'm going to say next), he should have thought of exactly what this kind of negative vibe-spreading actually achieves. If what he says is true and Rogue Trader isn't selling as well as was hoped for, that doesn't just mean that FFG is in trouble, it may well mean that the entire RPG business is in big trouble. Rogue Trader was highly anticipated and very well reviewed. In roleplay circles, I get the impression that it's very popular. If even a product like that is underselling, there's a good chance we are seeing the end of days of RPG development.

It's clear that WFRP is an attempt towards widening the consumer base of RPGs, just like the new Dragon Age RPG developed by Green Ronin is. It is precisely these products, like them or not, that need to succeed if companies are to keep believing it's worth their effort to publish RPG material. Actively trying to hurt these products may indeed result in building up bad buzz (as intended by those who do it) which will indeed lead to the products' failure (again as intended), but what happens next? When companies see their last major expensive effort to reach a wider audience for RPG material, to finally gain some ground in today's videogame-infested world, fail miserably, what do you think they do? They pull the plug, not just on big experiments, but on all RPGs. They'll believe this form of entertainment is dead or dying or that only WotC has the clout and brand name to stick around. And they would probably be right. For that reason alone, even if you think WFRP3 looks like crap, please refrain from actively trying to see it fail. That would just be bad news for everyone, I'm sure.

I know that I speak from the vantage point of someone who is in favour of the new edition and also that I am not well-versed in economics, but I think it's just a matter of common sense, really.

Ludlov Thadwin of Sevenpiecks said:

lets hope you are not right, or in the future we are all forced to play the only remaining rpg (possibly DnD5e) until the cow falls down.

Well if the companies pull the plug and dont produce rpgs anymore, we could tell the rpg fans to use their old rpg books instead (of course only if these books are not eaten by the dog or chaosspawn) As far as I can remember the same advice was given to the 2nd edition fans.

I'll just be glad when the game comes out so we can start debating about the various rules, adventure ideas and the other stuff that used to go on the 2nd ed board rather than continue the "how dare they", "its' gonna be rubbish", "I hope it fails" , "here's some completely unsubstantied gossip some random said to me n a pub" threads that still seem to be popping up months on from the initinal news that 3rd ed was coming.

www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/4442/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_b_2_4_last

I've no idea how well Amazon reflects sales in the larger rpg market, but I thought I'd point out that WFRP and RT are in the 9 and 10 spot on this list. I'd guess that they aren't doing as badly as "rpg pundit" wants us to believe.

I've got a bit of a soft spot for RPG Pundit, as I thought his remarks about WFRP in the past have been generally supportive and his blog's pretty entertaining for what it is (ie - daily article writing, especially on a niche subject, means you are going to produce rubbish now and then so I think it's impressive that he produces interesting, funny and informative posts with the degree of regularity he achieves).

I don't agree with him on many things, I don't agree with him about WFRP3, but when he's on the ball he produces some top-notch potty-mouthed hyperbole.

My experience of RPG preorders is that they are invariably "very soft" - as distributors simply don't trust them to shift. They typically make very cautious orders, see how they do for a bit, then order with more enthusiasm. So this sort of news doesn't surprise me but doesn't demoralise me either. The rest seems context-free rumours of vague qualms reported by an anonymous source ... I wager it was a slow news day in Montevideo.

cronevald said:

When I checked the link RT was down in 14th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RPG Pundit's magic must be working