I'm just curious, as I have not seen it, but do people run the YT-2400 without the Outrider title?

If so, do they still equip a cannon?

While it won't be as deadly, if you still have a cannon, it can still deal some damage in arc, while maintaining a 360 shot without a hole.

Those 5 points can open up more options or strengthen another ship.

Or is a 360 mangler or HLC too much of a bargain at 5 more points to even consider it?

Eaden Vrill's ability is specifically for a primary weapon attack which cannot be performed if the Outrider Title is equipped. The Wild Space Fringer seems to be run most often without the Title too. Generally I see both of those ships with a Mangler cannon.

Even Leebo does well without the title. The YT-2400 has an amazing dial that makes keeping things in arc easy. The only pilot I would play with Outrider is Dash. You can of course also use a Mangler canon and have no downside, but that is really boring and doesn't have anywhere near as much potential.

well, the lower your skill gets, the more chance that you'll get "donut hole'd" and become a sad panda.

but I had LOTS of FUN with Wrill in "Burger and Kings" roster of my latest devising >:}

2xBwing with tactician or a stresshog and Eaden Vrill can HLC you (2basic+range 1+Eaden's skill) without costly 12 points investment:P

I have been on receiving end of that

Also i saw Eaden just with HLC and no title. HLC range 2-3 then, 3 or 4 dice at range 1. Plus he can also always just roll 2 reds out of arc.

I have only ever run the Vrill version, without cannon. Vrill's low initiative lends itself to some type of stress attack/shenanigan (tactician, flechette cannon/torpedo, etc.) it's not difficult to get a shot at a stressed target. The problem is that you may not always have the optimal target stressed when you need to shoot it. But it's cheap. Durable. Fun (and that's what I like most).

I don't like the economics of the title+cannon, and the stereotype Dash-builds it seems to over-produce (note that he is also a fun ship to fly, no doubt).

It's 'different.' That doesn't mean competitive. But with a B-wing, or a Y-wing (or both), add a TLT somewhere, it has it's niche.

I really want to try this list at some point. I've got not idea how it would work, but it seems like fun.

Wild Space Fringer (30)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
Recon Specialist (3)

Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)

Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)

Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)

Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)

Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)

Total: 100

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Wild Space Fringer (30)Heavy Laser Cannon (7)Recon Specialist (3)Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)Total: 100View in Yet Another Squad Builder Did well here

I've flown that list before and it's still one of my favourites. Being able to slow-roll on the approach with the Fringer, waiting to line up the right HLC shot, while swinging the Bandits around in formation is fantastic. It's versatile and potent, and those Bandits can really do good work before they get swatted down, but the Fringer is the MVP. You get solid in-arc damage, you get to use the incredible YT-2400 dial to its fullest, and when all else fails you can get some nice Range 1 shots when they're least expected.

I really want to try this list at some point. I've got not idea how it would work, but it seems like fun.

Wild Space Fringer (30)

Heavy Laser Cannon (7)

Recon Specialist (3)

Wild Space Fringer (30)

Heavy Laser Cannon (7)

Recon Specialist (3)

Airen Cracken (19)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Total: 100

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For some unexpected nastiness, try this:

I've had fun with this list:

Poe Dameron (37)

T-70 X-Wing (31), R5-P9 (3), Veteran Instincts (1), Autothrusters (2)

Red Squadron Veteran (29)

T-70 X-Wing (24), R3-A2 (2), Wired (1), Integrated Astromech (0)

Eaden Vrill (34)

YT-2400 Freighter (32), Tactician (2)