In my games I improve the little stuff a lot. Life expectancy, no slavery except the penal legions, overall better level of tech and it's better understood. Servitors do most tasks that's unsafe and life is actually valued. The military ordos are less of a meat grinder. This apparently invokes a lot of nerdrage from some people here but they don't have to like it. I'm actually working on a fan fiction that brings one of the lost primarchs back. He'll bring a lot of hope and improved tech with him. I'm introducing the other lost primarch as a daemon prince. He'll be unaligned and an absolute terror.

So you have no slavery... but there are penal legions. And the life expectancy of people is up... on the already overcrowded Hive Cities. Meanwhile servitors, aka lobotomised zombies made of the bodies of political prisoners and malcontents that live a life of endless pain and servitude, exist as well, while life in the military Adeptus is valued, while commissars and the Ecclesiarchy still exist.

Your setting seems actually even more grimdark than the original 40k, at least there the Imperium does not hide behind hypocrisy to cover up the overall grittiness of life within it. A Hiver accepts their lot in life and strives to make the most of it, he knows he won't be around to see his grandchildren but at least he can leave them a pittance that he himself did not have. Your version sounds more like some perverse gothic Brave New World with imperial citizens being smothered by the promise of technology and better living while the High Lords and nobility tower over them in standing and authority.

The fact that you are bringing back a Primarch who will usher in some new golden age reminds me too much of historical figures that have promised the same, individuals that brought with them hope and progress for those that decided to fall in and submit. Perhaps you should step back and take a look at what you have created with bringing "light" into the grim darkness of 40k.

Perhaps you should consider stepping back and no longer commenting on my threads. It's obvious you hate everything about the way I play 40k and that you and I will not see eye to eye. I didn't list everything I do to make things better but go ahead and assume away. Servitors still exist but they only use vat grown tissue to create them. Even the look of them is different. All metal housing, no grotesque flesh showing like a Frankenstein/steam punk fusion monster. Penal legions exist yes, but only the worst of the worst go to them. The longer life expectancy is more than offset by a higher quality of living.

On an entirely unrelated topic would anyone happen to know if blocking someone prevents them from being able to post in your threads or just makes them invisible to you specifically?

Nice try but forums are places of open discussion, its called freedom of speech. Look into that sometime, oh and also read up censorship while you're at it.

To answer your question valarion, they can still post, you just wouldn't be able to see it is all.

Then how about you stop trolling me. Every time I post something there you are being a jerk and bashing everything I say. At this point you know we're diametrically opposed on our views and the only reason I can see for you to post on my threads is to be rude and argumentative.

Valarion, mate, you should take a look at whose posting before you write. I'm not SCKoni, the poster your were arguing with and believe is being rude to you. You do realize I was answering your question in your last post yes?

Valarion, mate, you should take a look at whose posting before you write. I'm not SCKoni, the poster your were arguing with and believe is being rude to you. You do realize I was answering your question in your last post yes?

I do realize that yes. I was responding to him. I apologize as I thought that was evident.

Actually, apologies to you as well, I see now I missed that. XD Forgive and forget?

Indeed.

I love 40k. The technology, the characters, the powers, all the different species. But I think I hate grimdark. I like hope and possibility clearly defined good guys and bad guys. I like the good guys being every bit as powerful as their enemies. And I hate the notion of all powerful evils and irresistible corruption. For me, without hope of a meaningful victory,a permanent victory there is no joy in the game. No point in playing if every victory is just slowing the bleeding while waiting for inevitable defeat. Not just defeat but extinction and eternal torment. I've learned something about myself. Ill continue to play 40k, but it'll be a version of 40k 99% of the people would hate. And that's okay.

A bit of offtopic. May be than look for a diiferent time periods in 40K timelines? I'm referring to M32-M35 (Time of Forging) and M37-M38 (Time of Redemption), with the first is pretty much could be called "Golden Age of Imperium of Mankind".

Meanwhile servitors, aka lobotomised zombies made of the bodies of political prisoners and malcontents that live a life of endless pain and servitude

Servitors, if they are not vat grown, that most of the servitors actually are - have their personality erased via neurosurgery, so the person that "donated" his body for a servitor is pretty much dead.

It's a big universe with a lot of time line to play with. I'm sure there is a style of Imperium for everyone.

1) the block feature is wonderful, and has brought much peace to the galaxy.

2) Hail Valarion. I run a "good" 40k universe as well.

Sure there is grimdark, but it doesn't have to occur in the immediate lifetimes of my players, now does it ?

Also, germany has had long and colorful history, what kind of person only talks about the 3rd reich ?

3) as for warp travel , in my games, it is at least as safe as modern air travel,

which is to say: for every 500 million people transported, only 40 actually die.

others may have nightmares or delays, but only a miniscule percentage die.

One take on the grimdark, it's the Imperium that is so grimdark. Out in the Expanse, where the Imperrium is little-represented in the day-to-day lives of many of the people, many of which may have never heard of it, the Horus Heresy, the Space Marines, etc, beyond maybe a few ragged priests, looking for converts, it could easily be much different, and for your players, who have a king's fortune to acquire various goods, while most others are lucky if the starch they eat wasn't made from the cadaver of someone they once may have known, also means their lives should be pretty good, and even upbeat. In story, I'd say that the crew of my ship, even some of the lower dregs, live pretty darn well (a full-on warship with 112 morale, so even if stuff does start to go wrong...), and for people with a name, it can be a pleasure-lifestyle just shy of attracting Slaanesh's attention; I'm a bit noblebright, too, so no falling to Chaos for the Qel-Drake dynasty, yet.

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American History Channel...which I still love much more than "Pawn Stars/American Pickers Channel", and even during the Third Reich, some good things did happen, such as the Audubon, and the creation of person-affordable cars. Even if I look back, and can say good things were done with terrible motives in mind, I can still, myself, detach the incident, and see the good in it. Hitler might have wanted the Audubon for military use, and POW's might have had a hand in the grueling fabrication of it, but after the fact, it has proven to be one the best, and most well-known, aspects of Germany, at least as I understand it. And yeah, without going into any tedious detail, Germany has been a major, historical player for...a long time, even if you decided to exclude the not even a decade of Nazi power. We could do the same with England, even if we excluded the American Revolution, and WWII. Of course, if you look to 40K for the grimdark, such things as these do make good analogies. Personally, and I don't want this to become some sort of historical debate, because I'm going to say this with some lack of educated explanation, I've often looked at the Imperium as more Soviet Russia, with the political/morale officers (Commissars), the massive, heavily expendable troop deployments, the lack of religious flexibility, beyond what the gov't demands you follow (SR was none, in my take, though the Imperium is the God-Emperor), and the list could continue, but we all know this, and this isn't what people are reading for.