I don't think there is a big socio-political point to be made here, just that women like to recognize themselves in fantastic stories as well. I don't see why that should be denied.

I wonder what Guri crew might do. It must be some sort of stress relief

I wonder what Guri crew might do. It must be some sort of stress relief

Anyway, the ability to take out another upgrade has already been taken. But it should be some assassin-like power (I only know her from this game and wookieepedia though).

Who cares.

Seriously, I don't understand why anyone gives a hoot whatever mythical sex made up characters on little bits of card have.

If you're seriously asking, then it's because Western pop culture in general and Star Wars in particular treats "straight white man" as the default and everything else as a deviation from that template. If you're a straight white guy then of COURSE you don't think it's important to see characters that represent you on the screen*, for the same reason that most fish probably don't give a lot of thought to how important water is, you know?

Apropos of nothing, I feel like it's relevant to mention that the Holy Trilogy has a grand total of three named female characters in it. THREE.

* - Although weirdly, some people suddenly seem to think representation is awfully important when, f'rinstance, a black guy gets cast as Heimdall or women get to play Ghostbusters. It's the damndest thing.

I find your cisgender heternormative attitude disturbing. How do you know which characters identify as which gender?

tbh trying to use fictional material as the battleground for our social issues is outright cultural projection onto characters undeserving of our problems

Writing a huge wall of text on a forum is like masturbating, because it is unlikely anyone else is going to read it. You're only doing it for yourself.

If you can't get your point across in 3 sentences, maybe you need to reevaluate your own positions.

Writing a huge wall of text on a forum is like masturbating, because it is unlikely anyone else is going to read it. You're only doing it for yourself.

If you can't get your point across in 3 sentences, maybe you need to reevaluate your own positions.

If you can't make your point without attacking another user or without referencing a pretty graphic action then you may need to relearn what civil discourse is and how to have it.

I wonder what Guri crew might do. It must be some sort of stress relief

Sigh.

Anyway, the ability to take out another upgrade has already been taken. But it should be some assassin-like power (I only know her from this game and wookieepedia though).

It gave me a immature chuckle, but no. Otherwise a Han Solo card would give the pilot an PS 12 for a turn then stress. Clearly old Kylo was a result of that.

I think Guri might do one of three things;

Either provide a focus token for a round when in range 1 of something hostile. It would have similar wording to Bossk in that she MUST trigger and gives the crew, even if fairly suboptimal positioning. Difference is Bossk is really good at targetting one ship while she provides a more blanket defence. 1 point.

Or she can negate a crit by discarding her. Perhaps even deal a damage back. either 1/3.

Or something totally offensive related; donno which. Probably something to do with doing something to foes at range 1. I mean I don't remember her being a starfighter pilot particularly, but as a hand to hand expert she was really an effective boarder. Perhaps even have her inflict crits to a ship that she's in base contact with to represent her boarding the ship, though that easily a 3 pointer or greater unless discarded.

Kath I have no idea, haven't read EU and the wikia page gave me a fairly boring description. Though given her interest in ambushes, perhaps taking her as a crew would allow the player to place a mine somewhere on the board for free after asteroids have been placed?

Ventress and Sing are both good choices, sure they are clone wars era, but that shouldn't really stop them if they are using pilots like Poe in the same setting.

She's a droid, amd as such, might be able to negate Pilot crits. Perhaps discard them and gain a focus token when doing that?

If we're going to steer this back on topic, then we should probably turn to the Forums second favorite activity (behind complaining): Theorycrafting!

So, Guri is a bodyguard. So we need a defensive crew card.

I'm thinking: It's a Scum defensive upgrade, so rather than regen a shield or grant an evade, she should try to discourage attacks altogether, ala rebel captive.

Maybe (though this is pretty powerful) "When you are declared the target of an attack, you may flip one of the defenders face down damage cards face-up."

Dunno how to price this, because although powerful, you're gonna have to damage an enemy, and then the enemy has to declare you as their target. Maybe 2-3 points?

I seem to get a lot of use out of this image on this forum.

Writing a huge wall of text on a forum is like masturbating, because it is unlikely anyone else is going to read it. You're only doing it for yourself.

If you can't get your point across in 3 sentences, maybe you need to reevaluate your own positions.

If you can't make your point without attacking another user or without referencing a pretty graphic action then you may need to relearn what civil discourse is and how to have it.

If you were triggered go hide under your bed until the sun comes up. I don't need to learn anything because I can say whatever the hell I want to. Maybe you need to relearn what living in a free society means.

My litmus test for a person's character is to see if 'triggered' is a hilarious setup-and-punchline in one for them.

Just the word. A bit like 'Really?' It's for people who aren't funny enough to make their own jokes.

I seem to get a lot of use out of this image on this forum.

I love the nerd with the megaphone. I can just picture myself there.

Writing a huge wall of text on a forum is like masturbating, because it is unlikely anyone else is going to read it. You're only doing it for yourself.

If you can't get your point across in 3 sentences, maybe you need to reevaluate your own positions.

If you can't make your point without attacking another user or without referencing a pretty graphic action then you may need to relearn what civil discourse is and how to have it.

If you were triggered go hide under your bed until the sun comes up. I don't need to learn anything because I can say whatever the hell I want to. Maybe you need to relearn what living in a free society means.

Just because you have a freedom of speech doesn't necessarily mean that you are correct. By that logic, people via their own employment of that same act can chose to call others out on that. I wouldn't say it was so much triggered, but rather comparing a large post to masturbation of all acts is immature even if fundamentally speaking you had a point on the excessive use of word count to make a fairly concise point. It's this kind of conjuncture that results in the rise of arguments, thus it is always good to communicate humorously but clearly.

Having stated my point, I will now proceed to conduct other activity on the internet. Like building an new peace moon.

Writing a huge wall of text on a forum is like masturbating, because it is unlikely anyone else is going to read it. You're only doing it for yourself.

If you can't get your point across in 3 sentences, maybe you need to reevaluate your own positions.

If you can't make your point without attacking another user or without referencing a pretty graphic action then you may need to relearn what civil discourse is and how to have it.

If you were triggered go hide under your bed until the sun comes up. I don't need to learn anything because I can say whatever the hell I want to. Maybe you need to relearn what living in a free society means.

Just because you have a freedom of speech doesn't necessarily mean that you are correct. By that logic, people via their own employment of that same act can chose to call others out on that. I wouldn't say it was so much triggered, but rather comparing a large post to masturbation of all acts is immature even if fundamentally speaking you had a point on the excessive use of word count to make a fairly concise point. It's this kind of conjuncture that results in the rise of arguments, thus it is always good to communicate humorously but clearly.

Having stated my point, I will now proceed to conduct other activity on the internet. Like building an new peace moon.

I had to get out a thesaurus to understand you, but you are mostly correct.

Masturbation is the vulgar way to say self-gratification. Making huge posts on the internet is just self-gratification. Which makes it masturbatory. English is a colorful language.

Writing a huge wall of text on a forum is like masturbating, because it is unlikely anyone else is going to read it. You're only doing it for yourself.

If you can't get your point across in 3 sentences, maybe you need to reevaluate your own positions.

If you can't make your point without attacking another user or without referencing a pretty graphic action then you may need to relearn what civil discourse is and how to have it.

If you were triggered go hide under your bed until the sun comes up. I don't need to learn anything because I can say whatever the hell I want to. Maybe you need to relearn what living in a free society means.

Maybe I'm old but what exactly is triggered? Is that some new fangled phrase for insulted or offended?

I'm not insulted or offended by your lack of maturity. You do indeed need to learn how to conduct civil discourse. A mature and reasonable discussion while rare on the internet is how society is meant to function and learning how to act in such situations is important if you intend to have your point of view considered. However, if you desire to continue lobbing insults at others then it is definitely within your "rights" but you will continue to be disregarded and your comments discounted due to the manner in which you present your opinion.

How many times are you going to call the kettle black here?

The S&V Podcast would love more female crew...

oh... the faction.

For example, what "simple fact of biology" makes it so women aren't suited as fighter pilots?

I feel like it is not unreasonable for me to ask that if you are going to quote my posts, you actually read them. I specifically said that pilots are less affected making their inclusion in X-Wing normal. Though the advantages you think women have aren't actually all that great. Fighter cockpits are small, but they aren't that small, and there's still a huge degree of fitness it requires to be a fighter pilot given all the gravitational stresses. My neighbor? She runs Ironmans. She's ridiculously fit, and 5'11 herself. Top 1% of women I've ever met. Being a fighter pilot isn't all about joysticks and button pushing. The same goes for the majority of military jobs. They often times, regardless fo technology, involve lifting and carrying stuff. Women are vastly underrepresented in labor construction too, for that exact reason. For every time you might have a crane, or a truck, you still need people to pick up heavy things and put them someplace else, often repeated over and over for long periods of time.

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I complained about your "for the foreseeable future" part, and you quoted a bunch of current statistics at me, and then claimed that I'm the one who didn't read a post? Huh.

I also didn't make any comment about Star Wars at all, in fact. Just about your assertion, and my impression of those who seem to vehemently object to increased representation in media. Personally, I understand why the existing movies were cast the way they were - product of the times, after all. But I don't understand the vehement rejection of adding more diversity in the _game_, which already draws on more resources than what was directly depicted in the films.

As for the physical capabilities issue - where did I say that a fighter pilot didn't require physicality? I asked what aspect of female biology made them at a disadvantage for that particular job. As for fighter cockpits being cramped - I may be biased on that one. I'm over the height limit for them myself. I can't claim to have ever flown in one, but the times I've had the opportunity to sit in one, they were certainly cramped to me!

With regards to "lifting and carrying" being a requirement - that's a prime example of technology improving things in the future. Look up Boston Dynamics' "Big Dog" as one example for the type of thing that will be available in the near future to aid in carrying, for example. As an engineer who works in robotics, I can say with certainty that lifting and carrying things is definitely a requirement that will be mitigated in the future as technology progresses.

Finally, for someone who "couldn't care less" you've certainly written an awful lot of words about it. Personally, I generally don't tend to waste my time writing about things I don't care about. On the other hand, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume this is simply turning into a "someone is WRONG on the internet" debate (credit to https://xkcd.com/386/ for that one). I've certainly run afoul of that one myself enough times. This time likely being one of them

Well, when selective service gets expanded...