Not been in the game very long.. at all.. and I was introduced by an old friend who didn't have a lot of ships with him, and they were mostly imperials. So every match I've played with more than the starter sets was either Imperial on Imperial or mixed imp+rebs vs Imps.

But on the other hand I've always been a fan of the post Endor warring factions period, and he had a whole meta-narritive that his ties were from a pirate faction which had captured a load of abandoned imperial assets... so it worked.

I admit that two similar lists like a tie-swarm vs tie-swarm wouldn't interest me so much, but I think a same faction match up wouldnt be fundamentally a problem.

I've never been all that keen on mirror matches. Call me old fashioned that way. When I'm setting up a game with someone, we usually choose opposing factions, probably because it just "feels" right. Rebels are supposed to be fighting the Imperials and vice versa.

I've got ships from all three factions, and if I'm showing someone new how to play, I'll always take opposing factions. I introduced two guys to the game and we had a small three-way battle, so there were three different factions in play. It just seems to be the proper "order" of things to me.

I don't like them and try desperately to avoid them.

When I play casually I have usually tried to avoid faction mirrors, but as I've played and come to enjoy the game more for its own merits rather than just as a Star Wars delivery system, it really doesn't bother me anymore. With as many waves as we have now you're not that likely to run into a list too identical to your own unless you are running a popular meta build (which is completely 100% fine to do, you just have to accept the potential consequences of running such a list). Even with minimal pre-existing attachment to Scum and Villainy I can accept them, and if they wanted to do some kind of separate but compatible prequel factions I probably wouldn't even have a problem playing against them either.

Everyone has their own preferred threshold for the purity of the Star Wars experience vs. expanding on the actual gameplay experience, but I guess I'm starting to slide a little more toward the latter.

NO! I prefer different factions and don't like mirror matches! Now S&V is doable if we don't have any ships being mirrored! But Id hate to see IGs vs IGs or Firesprays vs Firesprays, etc.

Depends on the situation, I never play same faction games casually. At organized events they are ok because they tend to be more competitive so the fluff doesn't take centre stage as much.

As long as there are ships on the table, I'm happy.

No fluff explains Han Solo fighting himself. Not opposed to it- but give me rebels fighting imperials over it any day.

Not entirely true, in the X-Wing novels (and even in before the awakening, although not described too detailed) there were fairly advanced flight simulators where pilots were trained. Those had good AI, some of which might have emulated 'real world' pilots. So Han vs. Han is just Han testing how accurate his sim representation is.

What ever is brought to the table. I wanna try a list, and so does my opponent. If its same faction, so be it. I'm not going to have my opponent change and I came with a specific list to play. Now I do run multiple lists, but honestly, mirror match ups are not a problem in the slightest, and that goes for most of the players in the local area. Some only have one faction, or enough to play that faction. They just want a game of X-wing.

No reason to down play the fun of the game because it isn't aesthetically pleasing to one person. It's a brilliant game, I feel this has the same merit as people that demand OT only ships, or no X pilot cause he/she is OP. There are, as already pointed out, plenty of legends reasons this would happen, and if you say the old EU doesn't count, I don't wanna see you using the old EU pilots and ships.

Do you like same faction games?

It doesn't massively bother me, but I do prefer it not to be the case.

I find it a little niggling when I see characters fighting themselves (Soontir v Soontir is a particular annoyance at Tournaments).

It's not game ruining, but it certainly takes away a little bit of the immersion.

Perhaps too many years playing wargames. P51 vs P38? 101 Airborne paratroopers vs british Royal Marines ? If you have only a limited ammount of models, Ok, this is a game. But it is weird to me.

If there are some background scenario, ok. But so many ships and Poe vs Poe is... quite strange.

What ever is brought to the table. I wanna try a list, and so does my opponent.

It doesn't have to do with what is 'aesthetically pleasing' to me, and I don't want to deny my opponents the chance to play the list he wants to play. On the other hand, I am not going to throw a tantrum just because someone says "You play rebels? Okay, then I will put away my rebels and go for Imperials instead."

That's fine, but I've also seen peoples stories of how they left a table because an EU ship was put down. Which to me is hilarious if you ever once used a name TIE pilot or EU character.

Sorry, I don't follow the logic of if I didn't see it, it can't happen. If you are willing to use EU ships/pilots, then you should be willing to accept EU scenarios of simulated training, in faction wars, and mutinies. They happened with regular frequency in both books and video games.

THE best history part of SW (aside from the glorious days of Clone wars)

is the post-OT period of EU

the power-struggle between Moffs, Self-proclaimed emperors, rebels that can't stop the rebellion even after victory and S&V that kick each other's afts most of the time anyway

Which no longer exists

Before wave 6 Blue on Blue was very common. You could almost say that more than 50% of the games were of the same faction. Still adding a 3 faction doesn't stop these but it does ease it to about half or even a third of the games.

But if you think X-wing has it bad you should check out Armada.

What are you seeing more of in Armada? Seems pretty evenly distributed around here.

That's fine, but I've also seen peoples stories of how they left a table because an EU ship was put down. Which to me is hilarious if you ever once used a name TIE pilot or EU character.

Sorry, I don't follow the logic of if I didn't see it, it can't happen.

I don't like Luke drinking hot chocolate either. It may have happened in the EU, but I don't like it, even though I "saw" it.

If you are willing to use EU ships/pilots, then you should be willing to accept EU scenarios of simulated training, in faction wars, and mutinies. They happened with regular frequency in both books and video games.

Unless I am testing out a new squad I will usually play whatever my opponent is not playing. I have a Darth Vader and Soontir Fel thing that I am constantly flying and trying to be better with, so I will pull that out if I know I'm facing Rebs. For when I know I'm playing an Imp I have two B-Wings that pair well with a lot of things. I feel like I haven't found my Rebel build that I like yet, like I have with Imps, so I usually experiment more with Rebels.

That being said, I usually try to avoid mirror matches. But if I really want to play a certain build, the prospect of a mirror match doesn't bother me.

THE best history part of SW (aside from the glorious days of Clone wars)

is the post-OT period of EU

the power-struggle between Moffs, Self-proclaimed emperors, rebels that can't stop the rebellion even after victory and S&V that kick each other's afts most of the time anyway

Which no longer exists

Before wave 6 Blue on Blue was very common. You could almost say that more than 50% of the games were of the same faction. Still adding a 3 faction doesn't stop these but it does ease it to about half or even a third of the games.

But if you think X-wing has it bad you should check out Armada.

MF tournament play... see above.

I try to avoid mirror matches as much as possible in casual games, partly for fluff, but also because I like being able to look at the board and instantly know which ships belong to which player. Mirror matches can get confusing when there's a giant furball and all of the ships look the same.

I would personally prefer to avoid mirror matches, but wouldn't say that I hate them or are bothered by them.

No fluff explains Han Solo fighting himself. Not opposed to it- but give me rebels fighting imperials over it any day.

Not entirely true, in the X-Wing novels (and even in before the awakening, although not described too detailed) there were fairly advanced flight simulators where pilots were trained. Those had good AI, some of which might have emulated 'real world' pilots. So Han vs. Han is just Han testing how accurate his sim representation is.

Sorry- just don't see this game and think it is an awesome tabletop miniature game representing mirror-match flight sims.

No fluff explains Han Solo fighting himself. Not opposed to it- but give me rebels fighting imperials over it any day.

Not entirely true, in the X-Wing novels (and even in before the awakening, although not described too detailed) there were fairly advanced flight simulators where pilots were trained. Those had good AI, some of which might have emulated 'real world' pilots. So Han vs. Han is just Han testing how accurate his sim representation is.

Sorry- just don't see this game and think it is an awesome tabletop miniature game representing mirror-match flight sims.

It is a bad explanation, true. But it still is one!

If we have to fly Imps v. Imps we should at least get a TIE/fo with Poe pilot and Finn crew.......

I have a deep loathing of all mirror matches, it first began in the early 90s with Streetfighter 2, Ken v Ken, oh god no thanks.

It followed me into 40k, where I always aborhed fighting the same army, oh look here are my Nids Vs your Nids fighting over this planet for some reason???

So here we are with X wing and with only 3 factions, entering a tournament usually means, there will be mirror matches.

My way round this is by trying to take lists that are not meta conforming. For example when the Raider first came out I entered a competition with Palpshuttle,Vader and Juno, everyone there was surprised to see this and I was the only one( there is no way in hell I will take that list to my store championship now)

In casual play we always avoid mirror matches but it is inevitable when you enter competions, you can twist the fluff however you want but it just doesn't sit right with me.

My next meta breaking list, 4 punnishers! Will I win, will I hell, will I play a mirror match, no I won't.

SCUM... but that is about it.

Rebels should never fight, unless their is an exposed traitor, then it would be that SOB's ship trying to get away from the rest of The Rebs.

Empire same deal as Rebs... but full on fights are not cool or fun IMO.... except for the Pirates, they fight kinda like tribes of orcs.

And yet Rebels fly training missions all the time against other Rebels. There are whole sections of the novels that revolve around it. It's the main reason I like Horton Salm - the training missions he and his Ys fly against Rogue Squadron in the X-Wing books.

Imperials have to do the same thing. And after the death of the Emperor, they are fighting each other more seriously.

Scum fight Scum all the time. Black Sun and the Hutts don't get along, for example.

Same factions "fighting" each other has plenty of justification in the background. There's no reason to dislike it.

THE best history part of SW (aside from the glorious days of Clone wars)

is the post-OT period of EU

the power-struggle between Moffs, Self-proclaimed emperors, rebels that can't stop the rebellion even after victory and S&V that kick each other's afts most of the time anyway

Which no longer exists

.

It no longer exists for the movies, but the EU is very much alive and well in the game of X-Wing.

THE best history part of SW (aside from the glorious days of Clone wars)

is the post-OT period of EU

the power-struggle between Moffs, Self-proclaimed emperors, rebels that can't stop the rebellion even after victory and S&V that kick each other's afts most of the time anyway

Which no longer exists

.

It no longer exists for the movies, but the EU is very much alive and well in the game of X-Wing.